Idaho House Bill 666: Couldn't they pick a different number? Thoughts on the Idaho house legislation body choosing 666?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/idaho-press/winder-hb-666-librarians-wont-get-hearing-in-senate-trans-youth-bill-likely-wont-either/277-b78fb950-2297-4459-ab81-a3b5b7808991

[JohnQue74]

The real number is 616:
A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616.

The new fragment from the Book of Revelation, written in ancient Greek and dating from the late third century, is part of a hoard of previously unintelligible manuscripts discovered in historic dumps outside Oxyrhynchus in Egypt. Now a team of expert classicists, using new photographic techniques, are finally deciphering the original writing.

Professor David Parker, Professor of New Testament Textual Criticism and Paleography at the University of Birmingham, thinks that 616, although less memorable than 666, is the original. He said: "This is an example of gematria, where numbers are based on the numerical values of letters in people's names. Early Christians would use numbers to hide the identity of people who they were attacking: 616 refers to the Emperor Caligula."

The Book of Revelation is traditionally considered to be written by John, a disciple of Jesus; it identifies 666 as the mark of the Antichrist. In America, the fundamentalist Christian right often use the number in sermons about the coming Apocalypse.

They and satanists responded coolly to the new "Revelation". Peter Gilmore, High Priest of the Church of Satan, based in New York, said: "By using 666 we're using something that the Christians fear. Mind you, if they do switch to 616 being the number of the beast then we'll start using that."

[ObscuredBeyond]

Basically, they've become the church of trolling. WEF and Reptilians use 666 not because of fear, but because the more times they can use it for parenting nefarious projects, the more the public's weirdness censors will kick in, and not believe it's actually happening, because it's too cartoonish and silly to be real.

The concept of refuge in audacity. Make the crime absurd, and you'll get a pass. And whistleblowers will be dismissed as cuckoo conspiracy theorists. Make it mundane, you'll get caught.

So if you're into some Squid Game secret society whackadoodlery, stamping 666 on everything is a good way to make your story sound too crazy for anyone to believe.

Same sort of trolling, but more malevolent in desig and intent, and with a few extra steps.

[ObscuredBeyond]

*patenting. Autocorrect is a bastard sometimes.

[JohnQue74]

@ObscuredBeyond always

[Exterminatore]

I don’t think this is accurate. First you sight Caligula as the true person 616 is meant to identify. Other sources say 616 was meant to identify Nero that 666 also was meant to identify Nero depending on the 2 different ways to spell his name, whether you’re spelling it in Greek or Latin. The information I just sighted was in connection with this supposedly new revelation.

I do not believe this fragment changes anything. 616 or 666 for Nero also depends on whether your speaking Greek or Latin. 616 in Latin, 666 in Greek. However the entire New Testament was written in Greek and a slight bit of Aramaic not Latin. The Latin Vulgate was written in Latin. It was a Latin copy of the Original Greek the NT was written in, making any “newly discovered” texts written in Latin NOT the oldest. That makes this new segment of script highly questionable as it must originally be written in Latin.

This is not a new issue. One of the early leaders of the Christian church, Iranaeus, wrote about this issue at length in his book Against Heresies. He supports 666 as being the correct number. Iranaeus died before the year 300.

Part of the problem is Greek at that time did not use Roman or Arabic numerals that we would be accustomed to. They used Greek letters and assigned a numerical value to each letter. This made it possible to misconstrue the number or have a possible spelling error. FYI Hebrew does the same thing and both are the alpha-numeric languages comprising the vast majority of the original scripts of the Bible. The OT written in Hebrew and the NT written as I stated in mostly Greek. The apostle Paul in writing his various epistles wrote in Greek because that’s the language to whom the epistles are addressed spoke.

[Exterminatore]

I also forgot to add that if the entirety of Revelation was meant to be speaking about current events at the time of the author, the Apostle John, then there are major problems with the entire book of Revelation. John mentions of being shown future events in Revelation. Events clearly past his lifetime. Things that cannot and do not fit historically into the events of John’s lifetime. Doesn’t matter how much one wants to claim that the events of Revelation are symbolic and code for events taking place at the time of the author.

[Exterminatore]

@obscured

I favor 666 as the correct translation and I can assure you I am no reptilian.

[007kingifrit]

did they "choose" this or was it just the bill after 665.

i guess they could just skip it. the way hotels don't have a 13th floor and just go straight from 12 to 14

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I don't think bills go by in subsequent forms 1,2,3 etc I think they choose these damn numbers on purpose. And like you said they could have just skip it to 667..

[007kingifrit]

the bills do go by number. at least on the docket. it probably has a name besides that though

[jahaims]

Means nothing to me. Just a number

[ragooo8]

The end is near