Which car do you prefer?

[Headstrongcrazylover]

EV-electric vehicle

ICE- GASOLINE/DIESEL ENGINES

[MrOracle]

ICE for me. That COULD eventually change - and I've been following the development of electric vehicles very closely for years - but I see them as exactly what they are and what they aren't.

The first lie is that they are better for the environment. They are not. It's POSSIBLE that they COULD BE at some point in the future, but that's not the case today and won't be the case at any time in the next decade.

Let's talk about emissions: an electric car doesn't burn gas or diesel, so it has no engine emissions - but it uses electricity, and the vast majority of that electricity in the US is generated by plants that burn oil, gas, or coal - all hydrocarbons that pollute the air. Moving the pollution from your exhaust pipe down the road to the electric plant doesn't change the equation much at all.

Then we need to talk about batteries. The mining for lithium and other heavy metals used in these batteries - mining that will need to be scaled up about 20-30 times over current amounts, in order to meet the needs of electric car production - are pretty horrific to the planet. The metals are very toxic, and while recycling is technically possible, the world has done almost nothing to create any infrastructure to make it happen. Instead, used lithium cells are either put straight into landfills or, in some cases, are being stored in the hopes that EVENTUALLY we'll be able to recycle them. But the avalanche of worn-out car battery packs have yet to even START. This is in our future:

Abandoned EVs from a failed Chinese car-sharing company

There is also HUGE problems with the charging networks in the USA - with the notable exception of Tesla's charging network. For non-Teslas, charging is no big deal if you can meet all of your charging needs at home, but as soon as you need to charge with public chargers, you'll quickly learn that public charging is a nightmare. Poorly-located charging locations, few stalls per location, broken chargers, low-charging speeds which means existing cars need to be in the available stalls for hours at a time, needing to sign up at multiple different charging networks, and on and on. The paper statistics look fine, but the real-world experience is anything but. As stated, Tesla's experience is VERY different, and much, MUCH more streamlined - but far from without problems. Tesla, for example, will not repair many perfectly fixable damaged Teslas, and even if you fix it yourself or find someone else who will, Tesla will block those cars from being able to fast-charge on their networks, which is absurd.

I'm fully aware of EV's advantages, and I think that, EVENTUALLY, EVs will probably take over, but I think we're a lot further away than people think (despite short-sighted government mandates to the contrary), and EVs in their current form do nothing - and are even arguably worse - for the environment. I think - I hope - that will also change too, but not today.

[Guy13]

V6-V8 and 5.50 ⛽️. Prices to pay for what one enjoys…

[Cherry234]

I'm gonna go with the electric vehicle.

[CourtneyJane2]

How does this question relate to sex?

[MrOracle]

It doesn't, but GaG's automatic subject selector is quick to throw any questions that COULD be objectionable or that it can't figure out into the age-restricted Sexuality category, just in case. Perhaps a mod will move it to a more appropriate category.

[TheMajesticKing777]

Gas for ever