Is anyone having to flee hurricane Milton in Florida? Is this horrible hurricane season a result of global warming?

[Anonymous]

[buzzword]

Obviously people had to get out of the way. It was a very power storm with a large storm surge, flooding rains, and probably the most tornado warnings I've ever seen. That said even though tornadoes were spinning all around town, there were cat 2 winds on the east coast, and a significant amount of rain I never lost power or internet (I'm off grid) even though my neighbors did. There was no flooding here either. So basically just a bunch of branches broken off trees that I have to collect and burn in my fire pit. Basically Milton was a peon and he went and harvested me a lot of wood for winter. Yes me lord...

[blueonblack22]

Saw a fascinating video of hurricane hunters flying directly into Milton to gather data.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363001711112

Anyway whether you believe “global warming” is responsible for this or not one thing is for sure: hurricane prone coastal cities could do a better job at hurricane proofing their buildings and houses. Build with brick and cement not wooden frames and aluminum siding. It costs more money initially but it saves more money in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Global warming certainly contributes to warming water, which creates the conditions that cause hurricanes. Strictly blaming it on that is silly but these things get worse every year and warming temperatures are a big contributer.

[Daniela1982]

Could be, or it could be God's judgement on America for all their antisemitism.

Here America, while I bounce the moon off your forehead a few times.

[coxoabean]

True

[Daniela1982]

No, it's because of Hurricane Smith's song.
https://youtu.be/qnxoTCvklKQ?si=ObTF9T7TLW7wHVyo

[OlderAndWiser]

I am in Florida - Jacksonville - and we do not need to evacuate. There are massive evacuations already in progress on the Gulf coast that is in the anticipated strike zone.

[V_Injector]

It happens every fucking year but Americans buy cheaply made houses for way more than they're worth. Then they do some shit like build in a place that will get flooded or will flood because they're fucking retards.

Global warming? Fuck if I know and fuck if I care. it was global freezing when I was a kid and now it's warming. They can fuck off with that climate change bullshit. The dinosaurs did just fine when it was hotter.

To summarize... humans are fucking stupid if you think about it. Not all, but people that buy cheap houses in places that are already underwater are fucking dumb.

[Danny_dan92]

It’s hurricane season.




And these areas being affected by hurricanes have always been known to have hurricanes.




It would be concerning if areas that never seen hurricanes got hit by one.




So no, this has nothing to do with global warming. That’s like someone saying there’s global warming when their house gets burned down when their home is built in the middle of a forest.




Or if lava engulfs their home and they’re built next to an active volcano. Know your geographical facts before you settle down in an area

[NamerOfStars]

No, thankfully- but as a former Midwesterner, I can say I don't like hurricanes. Tornadoes are still worse to go through, though.

And no- more consistently warm weather patterns would lead to weaker hurricanes, not stronger ones. Some other form of anthropogenic climate change (yes, there IS more to it than just carbon dioxide, as much as the "environmentalist" movement wants to pretend otherwise) might be contributing, though.

[Friendlybro79]

@NamerOfStars your answer regarding climate change is interesting and I'd be interested in knowing how you were able to know that? Not sarcasm being serious. Do you have a background in this topic? Thanks!

[NamerOfStars]

@Friendlybro79 Sort of, though it's academic, not career. I went to a Great Books college, and studied what you might call the History of Thought, which meant reading not only the great books of antiquity, but many of those that spun off from them, and then more that spun off from THEM, and so on, tracing the patterns of how and why theories developed in the way they did. It was the weird lack of counterarguments to Cuvier that got me interested in paleoclimatology, and things spiraled out from there. I'm afraid I can't recall which books talked about which subjects, and since it wasn't a modern "here are the facts, and here are the numbers and logic that prove them"-style education (and that was before I went off on my own, when it got even more intermixed), I don't have any way of tracing it back to a simple logical point; you'd probably need a lecture to understand how the lecture explaining it all even worked. I don't say this to insult your capabilities; it's just that I've never tried to organize it all in a way that would be easy to follow.

Extremely long story short: warm air is the fuel for these storms, so you'd THINK that warmer air temperatures would lead to more potent storms- but that's not the case; the storm's intensity is much more a function of atmospheric pressure, which humanity can't really affect, and global warming (in particular, but not exclusively, the Greenhouse Effect) not at all. Warming the planet (especially the ocean) would give us more storms in general, and perhaps more hurricanes, but they'd be weaker; there's only so much juice to go around.

[Friendlybro79]

Thanks for sharing!

[NamerOfStars]

@Friendlybro79 You're welcome. And as a general life tip: be wary of anyone suggesting a simple solution to complex problem. Hear it out, by all means- they do SOMETIMES work- but remember that usually, they're just trying to sell you something.

[Ballinbmac01]

Hurricanes are definitely worse than tornadoes. A tornado passes by in less than what 20 seconds? Hurricanes can bring the same wind force with a storm surge on top of that.

[NamerOfStars]

@Ballinbmac01 Hurricanes bring wind scattered over hundreds of miles, at speeds rarely exceeding a hundred miles an hour. They make their presence known DAYS before making landfall.

By contrast, a tornado can not only pop into existence mere seconds before it hits you, the scale barely STARTS below a hundred miles an hour, with microbursts inside the funnel sometimes BREAKING THE SOUND BARRIER. If one comes at you soon enough after formation, it might not even be VISIBLE when it hefts you in the air and slams you into a car at 200 miles an hour. The EF5 that hit... Joplin, I want to say it was, but I'm not sure, hit a building with stone walls two feet thick, and leveled it, killing everyone inside. A hurricane would be lucky to scratch the outer surface.

I've been through both. Neither is fun, but tornadoes are worse.

[Ballinbmac01]

Dude save your paragraph this isn’t a debate every meteorologist on earth will say hurricanes are worse than tornadoes. Especially when you take in the fact that it’s rare for a tornado to even be able to start in highly populated areas while hurricanes can hit any no matter the population. Hurricanes are more devastating because they last longer than tornadoes. You’re personal opinion and actual facts from people who cover the weather says otherwise.

[Ballinbmac01]

And it’s literally only because of how long a hurricane last compared to a tornado. Something that last hours that can bring similar damage to a tornado is clearly worse overall

[BTigers96]

No, and no.

Hurricanes aren't a new phenomenon.

The Earth has warmed and cooled since it's creation. "Global Warming" was "Global Cooling" when I was growing up. Same people, and they're always wrong. Keep in mind none of their predictions have ever come true, ever.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Tropical environments on coastlines tend to get hurricanes.
The earth is warmer than it was a few decades ago, in part from the ice age ending, and in part from human's emmitting lots of carbon dioxide gas while cutting down forests and killing off whales (whale poop fertilizes/feeds ocean algae, ocean algae breathes in more co2 than trees).
Because the earth is warmer and wetter, tropical storms will be stronger.

[nawtee_me]

No it is not due to global warming. October is the last and worst month of hurricane season. It is also the hottest month for the Gulf of Mexico where the last two first formed. I am in Louisiana and we had one this season but not as bad as these two.

[Jersey2]

November is the last month but October is the worst followed by September.

[Zack-Bann]

One google search and you’ll see that hurricanes have been hitting that part of the world since forever


Global warming implies it’s some new phenomenon


It isn’t

[OhMyMan]

Maybe 5-10% of it caused by global warming. Obviously, hurricanes are not a recent phenomena. In fact, all of the most powerful hurricanes happened last century, not recently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_intense_tropical_cyclones

[ChicoFromThe305]

If you lived in the state for more than a decade, you don't flee from hurricanes, it's just a Floridian fact 😂

[Jersey2]

You do when it is a Cat 4 or 5 and you live in Zone A. Only the fools don’t leave then. And from the people I have talked to, they won’t do it a second time.

[ChicoFromThe305]

Depends on the person, I never had to leave and never will until I decide to move state if I do

[Ballinbmac01]

I live in Miami Florida actually this hurricane season has been one of the lightest seasons of all time. Only 3 serious hurricanes so far is vastly below average

[Surely]

Of course it is from global warming! Us Americans are polluting the atmosphere. But China and India have different atmospheres. So their carbon emissions don’t have any impact on our climate!

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't live in that dump if you paid me.

[Staximus]

There's always been hurricanes in the Caribbean, even before the Caribbean was the Caribbean

[dudeinohio]

No. It has nothing to do with global warming. It's Hurricane season. This is to be expected.

[Bklynbadboy12]

My heart goes out to them cause they haven't even bounced back from Helene yet

[red324]

No, we had a bad season like 3 years ago. Some are just more active than others

[RowdyYates]

Thankfully, I don’t live in that area.

[gatixek710]

no, it's not a result of global warming.

[Jltakk]

Possibly HAARP, or whatever project came after it.

[In_Trance]

No

Also no

[Pterodon]

Nope and nope