I'm really shocked by the position that she deserved any of it. I mean, saying someone deserved to die isn't particularly extreme, really. It's a sort of shocking way to say 'I didn't like them' or taking a stance on something. Everyone has their agenda. But, allllll she did was get off with someone on cam. Or, a few guys. Whatever. I mean, I'VE done that. A lot of people do that. That's really not a normal thing to do. I mean, it really isn't an abnormal thing to do. You can reasonably expect that someone, if they're mean, might take a screenshot of it, might put it on one of those websites - at most they're gonna show their friends. Not even your friends, their friends. A few people at school will have seen you naked. Wah wahh, nobody cares about that. She wouldn't have cared about that. But it was really... Nuts, what happened to her. I mean it was really f***ing crazy. She couldn't escape it at all. I wrote a long thing on it, on Sikoo's question, I used it as an example (and after I did a whole bunch of questions about it popped up, funnily enough), where I compared it to Sartre's La Nausée. I don't really feel strongly about it but it's a good example on a lot of things.
But, the idea that she deserved it simply for flashing is really nuts. I mean, that's really really crazy. Like I said, that's not abnormal and the consequences tend to be minimal. When that is brought up, most people bring up her age. Since she was only 15 - people bring up her age! As if that's why it's so immoral! People do that to rapists, to worsen the crime. That's an old tactic - 'She was only 15!' But the whole point of that as an intensifier is that 15 year olds can't properly consent, that's the national, legal opinion. Not in my country, but certainly in hers, and certainly that of her accusers - 15 is underaged. Judged to be a minor, judged to be not able to consent because of severely impaired judgment. That's the line, there. Using that to justify that she deserved it is the *holy grail* of what the Liberals call Victim Blaming. I have never heard anything LIKE it in my LIFE, and America is a really, really crazy place, clearly. The term Victim Blaming is looked at with derision, from what I gather - and if you were to bring it up here, yeah, it would be. But it doesn't *happen* here, it HAPPENS there, and I've never seen anything like it before. It's really terrifying.
You're all *weird*. You're all severely f***ing *weird*.
She most definitely got what she deserved! There are 2 types of bullying: the kind where you are bullied for something you can't help, such as your appearance or skin color. No one deserves that. But the other kind is the bullying you get because of bad things you choose to do. Amanda Todd chose to do bad things. She brought it all on herself. She made a mistake by showing her t*ts online but then she just kept making bad decisions and therefore making things worse for herself. So what did she expect to get? I'm not (necessarily) saying that she deserved to die. But I am saying that she fully deserved all the bad results of bullying from the" stupid choices she made. Sometimes bad things happen to bad people, and she was nothing more than a bad teen who ended up reaping the "benefits" of her own bad choices. She was a stupid girl whp got some well-deserved consequences for her the dumb choices. Her death was also her own fault because she didn't have to take her own life: another stupid choice! What she didn't--and doesn't deserve is our pity, sympathy and tears, and she will get NONE from me! The group of students who told her "Nobody likes you!" were probably right! My question to her would be, "So, Amanda, how did those choices you made work out for you there, kid?"
Absolutely not.
No offense... actually no, all offense meant; anyone who thinks otherwise is just as sick as that older guy who was the cause of most of the stuff that happened to her.
No person deserves such extreme harassment, bullying, suffering and pain that that young girl had to endure. She had a momentary lapse of judgement, yes, which resulted in her flashing her breasts to a stranger on the internet, yes. But she was only 15! Like honestly, anyone who says she "deserved it" is completely out of touch with reality. Show me a teenager who hasn't made one mistake, ever, or has never had a momentary lapse in judgment, ever, and I'll eat my words. The only thing that Ms. Todd deserves is compassion, sympathy and understanding. Even for people to say that she didn't deserve to die, but did deserve the isolation, harassment and/or bullying is pretty disgusting to me, especially seeing as those things *were* the cause that led to her suicide in the first place, as they were the root of her pain.
Usually my answers are quite eloquent, but with this one I'm just so frustrated. The world doesn't need less Amanda Todds, it needs less of the people, that guy in particular, who brought her to the point where she felt taking her life was the only option she had. It needs less of the people who, after hearing about her suicide, say that she deserved most of what she got because she was "stupid" enough to flash her breasts online. It needs less of the people who don't even care at all because it's "just one girl; just one suicide". And when I say that I don't mean that I think those people should off themselves too. What I mean is that the world needs more people who exhibit compassion, sympathy, caring, and often times are quite proactive for trying to find solutions for situations like this, and that it'd be much better off if the ignorant people I was referring to earlier (the "less understanding" ones) developed the qualities that I just listed, instead of the ones that they have.
I think there is a pedophile/ stalker who is getting away scotch free. She made a mistake but she was harassed and stalked by the same guy, she tried to escape. She moved and changed schools. The guy found her and he posted pictures of her everywhere. She then was bullied by everyone. She killed herself to escape. Now she us dead and still people bulliedher and write nasty things about her, that her parents now have to read while trying to grieve their child.. She was just a child. I think the police should be involved and justice should be served to those who pushed her over the edge. If anything the pedophile should be found and prosecuted and sent to prison.
I get why people are pissed off that she did things to "encourage" or warrant the bullying. But does anyone REALLY deserve to have their life taken away from them just because of a stupid mistake? I mean, other than killing a person, I don't really think anything you do NOW is going to matter in 5 years... Probably not even one year. I'm pretty sure the only people who are saying she "deserved" to die, are kids and teenagers who are either A.) too immature to grasp the concept of what really happened and how bad bullying can really be or B.) are mature, but just hasn't experienced the seriousness of the girls' situation...
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i think is f***ed up that people bullied her and wished her dead and when she died people continued to bully her and said she was weak and she is a whore that deserved to die. I have never in my live seen so much hate towards someone even serial killers like ted bundy and aileen wuornos had people that didn't think they deserved being executed for commiting murders and yet people are cheering when a 15 year old victim of bullying commits suicide, who did she hurt? this whole thing angers me, that people can't mind their own business and the kids at her school and the low lives that never met her yet they thing they have the right to post hateful comments on her video and make jokes about it. I hope her family never reads the comments and I hope amanda never saw any of them.
Everyone makes mistakes in life.
Everyone has done something that they regret.
Mistakes in life help you to grow as a person.
The girl was in her early teens. I don't know very many young teenagers who practice common sense.
Should she have exposed herself over a webcam? No.
Should she have learned from her mistake? Yes.
Should she have been constantly ridiculed for a mistake that she made? Absolutely not!
I don't care who you are, or what type of things you have done in your past, no one deserves to be treated the way she was treated.
No that's harsh.everyone has done things that are silly but they shouldn't kill themselves over it.she shouldn't have been bullied like that either, she didn't hurt anyone. I don't see anyone bullying the guys she flashed and exposed her to everyone..
Did she deserve to die? (I'm assuming that's what happened, didn't watch the whole video)
She didn't deserve to die. But she did deserve the isolation and shame she got as a result. Anyone stupid enough to do something like that deserves to have it backfire in their face.
The fact of the matter is people give up every day. The only reason you care about it is because media got ahold of it.
"bullying" is life. Everybody makes mistakes, and part of life is DEALING with those mistakes.
Don't come to me saying that I'm a bad person because I don't care. Talk to me when you stop someone from taking the easy way out.
No one deserves to be bullied, especially to the point of suicide.
But she's being presented as an angel and people saying she was innocent etc. she flashed and masturbated on camera for some guys. Her video was exaggerated and was obviously made to make her look good.
2 sides to every story it's sad that she gets this much attention when there are millions of others being bullied but no one does anything to stop those people from being bullied.
No one deserves that, but she made mistakes and should have learned that they would come back to haunt her. I don't understand why people are making a big deal about her because people commit suicide every day for just being different and unwanted in society, she commited suicide because she couldn't move past her mistake and people kept going at her because they knew it'd effect her.
Of course she didn't deserve it. What happened was horrible and tragic.
But for the life of me, I don't understand why Canadians and Americans make such a big deal about showing your t*ts. I can see topless girls every time I go to the beach here in Europe, why are human bodies considered so shameful over there, I'll never understand.
Nobody deserves what she got, but she DID do some stupid things. She is 13, but at that age, you would me mature enough to know what's wrong. All in all, I think that it was her fault, but the other kids just went WAY to hard on her.. RIP Amanda Todd
No one deserves to be bullied. I don't care about the background of what they did or anything, NO ONE deserves to be bullied.
I have little sympathy for cop-outs tbh.
Kids are cruel, this happens more and more often, I don't know why this is so public.
No I don't. Was it stupid to flash your t*ts? You bet. But it was sad that people bullied her when they really should have bullied the pedophile who saved the picture.
Who?
she didn't deserve it everyone makes mistakes it doesn't mean we have a right to bully
Whose she? :/
Not me
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