You Get What You Give! (Why I Love Being A Traditional Woman :) ) (Page 3)

[Jack9949]

Lol I love the divorce rates photo. Guess we suck 😂👍

[Yads_Is_Back]

Absolutely
There are reasons the rate in the U. S. is so high, and you tend to be a smart guy so I think you're aware of them.

[Jack9949]

Its because people don’t take things seriously enough.

[NYCQuestions1976]

Excellent Take. The only part I somewhat disagreed with is "divorce is automatically evil". It may be frowned upon, but sometimes it's a necessity when all else fails.

[bannacookies]

I do not agree with a lot that you have said here, but I like learning others view points on maters like this one. Thanks for a detailed mytake. 👍

[Madmegalomaniac]

Too lazy to read the post, but will say this about the title: You don't always get what you give. Some people are more selfish than that in my opinion. Sry if you've addressed this.

[TheLeeyo]

I hate Traditionalism as much as Progressivism,
Both are Gynocentric and anti male freedom

[Yads_Is_Back]

Apparently you don’t know what either one is

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Actually, I think it's more so that common labels are nothing more than just that. The common "traditional" and "progressive" views both interwind and therefore contradict themselves in today's age. Very few modern women, at least in more modern nations, are actually fully traditional or progressive usually. Cause on one hand they both usually want to be able to vote, drive, or have freedoms historically progressive, YET on the other, there are "progressive" women who still secretly expect traditional things from men like paying for dates, engagement ring, etc. Additionally, and actually very important, BOTH sides (mainly women) likely would be disgusted at even the thought of sex bot brothels, even though, the idea is VERY progressive YET can also be used to preserve traditional means with some exceptions. One of the biggest issues is that it's assumed men would be the primary consumers of sex bots and the like, when actually, there is zero reason the market would not make full sure any sort of bot/doll is available, meaning for women too. Lastly with this progressive idea though, the ones deciding that they want more than just sex when it comes to another human body are the ones that would actually pass on the blood line and really, are likely among the best parents anyways, so for sure, darwinism at work, ironically, for a "traditional" cause.

[Yads_Is_Back]

You said MOST, not all. And you mentioned people going by labels, not definitions.
Problem solved. Thank you. Generalizations, especially by outsiders, can never be 100% correct.

[TheLeeyo]

I don't think you understand

I don't believe in the concept of a "submissive wife", I don't wanna be a slave and I'm not subjectin anyone to slavery
And I also reject ReAl mAn, like literally LTRs are just irrelvant
I think I'm on a middle line between progressivism and Traditionalism

[TheLeeyo]

Or lemme make it clear
I'm both Anti/Pro liberalism and conservativism

[Dargil]

Read my response to his post. "You" are part of the solution.

[Bidensucks2020]

Women don't want to get married before 40 or have kids today. Most women would rather live with a guy than marry.

[Juxtapose]

You really don't know how it is for men in the United States.

But it was interesting hearing another non-USA perspective.

[Anonymous]

my guess is, you feel its the guys role, like almost all women, to approach you or ask you out first

[Yads_Is_Back]

Absolutely.
And my guess is that you think that means that I can’t show interest first and that he needs to spend money on me... If you think that, you’re wrong.
We on the same page so far?

[Yads_Is_Back]

Because you’re not the first guy to complain about this. I don’t see how it’s SOOOO hard to ask a woman out. I just don’t see the complication 😂

[Opinion Owner]

i was speaking of my life-long resentment how its always expected of men

[Yads_Is_Back]

I have no problem with things being expected of me even as a woman. And if one of them was showing initiative in things I want, I definitely wouldn’t have a problem with that.
Yep, you want to expect things from a woman then she can expect things from you. It’s not one-sided. You can’t expect a traditional woman and not be at least willing to initiate. Nope, doesn’t work that way.

[Opinion Owner]

so you would never make the first move or ask a guy out

[Yads_Is_Back]

Asking out - I have. Not something ethical for me to do, but I have before. It’s not my role.
Making the first move - If this includes letting a guy know I’m into him then yes because if I don’t then I don’t really have a chance if he doesn’t know I want him, right? Yeah.

It’s not about just me. It’s about you/him/the guy too. Are you NOT willing to make a first move or ask a woman out? Do you take a shot at things you want or do you just let them go and not try? Are you a fighter or one who gives up or doesn’t try?

[Opinion Owner]

yes, because why does it have to be the guys role? it feels like an injustice due to how one-sided it is

[Yads_Is_Back]

If you don’t want her that much then don’t worry about it. Especially with a traditional woman because I’ll tell you this: if you don’t want her bad enough, there are men who do. If you can’t be a man and take initiative, somebody else will.
So let one approach you who is not so traditional, but don’t complain that you don’t get the traditional woman if that’s what you want.
It’s a two-way street. You’re not the king of the world.

[Yads_Is_Back]

If you’re wanting her to do everything for you and you do nothing and show no mutuality, let me ask you this: what do YOU bring to the table?

[Opinion Owner]

other guys besides me feel we guys do everything for women

[Yads_Is_Back]

Some men love a woman who will also do everything for him.

[Yads_Is_Back]

So all of the things mentioned in the myTake... you have done ALL of those for women?
I doubt that.

[Opinion Owner]

some but it didn't last long

[Yads_Is_Back]

I don't know of any man who has done everything - the cooking, the providing, the money-making, the parenting, and all the rest - so I don’t really believe it. But if you have done all that, you’re working yourself too hard and you should expect more of that from your woman.
But again, if it’s so impossible for you to even ask a woman, don’t expect a real woman. We expect real men.
It’s not hard to show ask. Whether you want to or not is on you. The worst she can do is say no.
And this is going in circles. I’m bored.

[Opinion Owner]

i'm talking about doing everything in starting the relationship, such as starting the first interaction or conversation between the 2, asking out, asking for the phone number, planning and setting up all the dates, going in for the first kiss, pulling the trigger, making the first physical move

[Yads_Is_Back]

Demanding all that is crazy. I’ll go for the first kiss if I want to. Same with starting a conversation.

[Opinion Owner]

you would introduce yourself to a guy first?

[Yads_Is_Back]

I told you I have no problem doing that. We mentioned that a while ago.

[Jjpayne]

All good points and a great my take!

[Yads_Is_Back]

Thank you!

[Jjpayne]

Welcome 😊

[modelUN242]

As a female, I liked your post!

[Yads_Is_Back]

Gracias

[Gedaria]

I like your thinking..,

[Yads_Is_Back]

I don’t get that a lot on here LOL

[Gedaria]

Well I do, I don't know what modern women get out of killing themselves having kids and still going out to work. My first wife loved it...

[LEADFOOTboi]

yads, are you tryna turn me into a SIMP?

[Yads_Is_Back]

Don’t need to :P

[LEADFOOTboi]

why do you say that? cuz it ain't gonna happen

[Yads_Is_Back]

I don’t even know what you’re talking about. No guys who are successful with women ever use terms like “simp” or “fuckboy” anyway, so you might as well already be one 😂That was my point lol
So I don't know how you got that from my post, but your success (or failure) with women is not something I have any interest in.

[LEADFOOTboi]

oh fucc, now you're calling me an incel... well paint me red and call me surprised...

[Yads_Is_Back]

I didn’t, but it would be a reasonable conclusion. How would I know, though? Your sex life is not a topic of my interest.
Simps, Fuckboys, Incels, and all the other crazy terms you like to throw around have nothing to do with this post.
Bye, troll

[LEADFOOTboi]

what did i ever mention my sex life? WHEN DO I EVER MENTION IT? i know you love me, but come on... you ain't gotta lay it on that thicc

[Gentlemanhard]

I think its natural for girls being submissive

[Yads_Is_Back]

Mhm. But look at all that defiles nature now. 😂

[Gentlemanhard]

by nature i mean, the tendency of women is to be submissive

[Yads_Is_Back]

I know.

[Gentlemanhard]

anyway, i think you 're right, you should love and obey your husband

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

You get what you give. Spot on. 👍

[mrgspoter]

Oh spoken like a angel

[msc545]

Very nice mytake - thanks!

[knight2468]

This is a piece of art

[Open4allW]

❤👍🏻

[Phoenix98]

Good mytake.