Do Not Get Married... Yet

[lime_rampljuset]

Hear me now!

If you believe your partner is perfect

DO NOT GET MARRIED

If you believe destiny has brought you together,

and there is no one similar like her in the world

DO NOT GET MARRIED

If when you think about her you only hear love songs

If every time you see her, you feel butterflies in your stomach,

or if when you're with her time flies away

DO NOT GET MARRIED

DO NOT GET MARRIED

If you don't find it hard to get up early to see her

If you don't have trouble walking 100 km to give her a kiss,

or if when the phone rings your knees shake to see her name

DO NOT GET MARRIED

DO NOT GET MARRIED

If every second you think about being alone with her

If you believe no one will love you as she does,

or even if you feel is impossible to love her more

DO NOT GET MARRIED

If you're in love,

if only you're in love

DO NOT GET MARRIED,

yet.

Do it,

when you don't want to gift her the moon,

but when you want to go together for it.

Do it when you find it hard to talk with her,

to laugh,

to be there,

yet, you talk

laugh

and stay at her side.

When the extraordinary becomes ordinary

but you make of the routine something extraordinary.

When you understand

she is not a trophy you have won,

but a gift you have to take care of.

When you feel comfortable thinking about the future

where the dreams of both fit together.

When you understand that apologizing and forgiving

are more important than to be right.

When you accept her past without judging her

and see her present as a gift

and her future as a opportunity to make her happy.

When you know both of you can be apart one without the other,

but yet want to live together for ever.

Because love

Is patient,

Is humble,

and understanding,

is kind,

respectful.

It's not selfish,

neither presumptuous

nor rancorous.

Love has no limits.

Forgives without limits

Believes without limits

Waits without limits

Love will never cease.

[CaramelCookie]

Nice take 👏🏼 I'm with you on this.

[Imhotep99]

Damn. Are you a poet?

[lime_rampljuset]

Nah, I am not.

[Imhotep99]

This is a nice take though.

[Browneye57]

Ew boy, that's some happy horseshit.
Get married if you want to start a family, if you want to be committed to each other for the rest of your lives. Otherwise no, DON'T GET MARRIED. It's a lot harder to undo than to do it.

[lime_rampljuset]

Yup.

[Anonymous]

Should be "Do not get married." Period.

(If you are a man)
80% of women have postpartum depression.
Sex after Marriage almost stops.
Your freedom ends.
Your friends go away.
60% of women married women cheat.
Men lose custody in 84% of divorces.
Men pay 97% of Alimony
70% of non-reciprocated partner violence is female to male.
10% of father's are victims of parental fraud.
Men generally make up 61.5 % of household income but women spend 75% of household income. Men only get to spend 40% of what they make.
Divorced men only get 30% of what they make.

Getting married is a shame for men.

[clever_seeker]

HOLY F%$*, i was going ask where you got your references , data and statistics from. With in min's i got my answer. This was sound!

[Opinion Owner]

@clever_seeker Thanks. Google can prove my stance within seconds, but Realsexism. com has a major gathering of sources. The data is all 100% solid and accurate.

[AnaWryneck]

Who did you marry?

[CrystalChild]

I think your point here is "don't get married if all you care about is yourself"

[Opinion Owner]

@AnaWryneck It isn't who I married, it's general statistics.

@crystalChild And no it isn't about "don't get married if you only care about yourself."
It's don't get married if you are a male and don't want to be treated like you are a disposable commodity that is expected to be at the beck and call of an entitled gynocentric female.
Because the respect, freedom, and finance is not mutual. It only benefits the woman.

[AnaWryneck]

So like no offense are you gay or do you just hate women because this is some real anti lady stuff and if no one made you so jaded maybe you think men should just be with men postpartum is something that happens to some women when they have babies so that has nothing to do with marriage you can have a baby and no be married so don't have babies and if you're going into it thinking you're going to get divorced then.. Don't get married and the divorce rate is out of 1000 people poled not the whole united States when going against the census the 2016 divorce rate was 31% not half 84% do not lose custody battles let alone you have to take out the ones with in abusive relationships just because 3% of men ask for alimony doesn't mean 97% of women get it that number is to say how many men ask and receive not the denial rate 37% of women make more than their husbands the question is why don't they want alimony because it is paid to who makes the least not man woman

[CrystalChild]

You think women want to bare children, cook and clean and manage the home while their husbands go to work and check out emotionally and physically at the door? I don't think so. But many do it. I think you never realized that relationships are supposed to have give and take. You can't just take take take and leave when there's no longer anything left in it for you. Thinking entirely of yourself will cause you to have no tears when you leave this world, because you invested nothing in others. Based on your words t seems you're very obsessed about your life and what happens to you. Not even in marriage alone, but in life in general, we need to look otwards and strive to make the world and those around us better. You can say looking out for yourself is the only key to happiness, but it's simply untrue. So yes, you are being selfish in your assertions

[CrystalChild]

And let it be known: that doesn't happen for every woman, but a lot have to go through it. Just like a lot of men have to have wives that don't listen to their problems and nag too much. But unhappiness in marriage occurs when one or both spouses start only thinking about themselves

[samhradh_leannan]

Are you really telling people not to get married because their wife might end up having postpartum depression? What kind of world is this?

[AnaWryneck]

@samhradh_leannan it's not the world not all men are this cowardly and selfish I know mine isn't like shit a woman has a baby and falls under depression and that's a crime? Then what's this shit?

[samhradh_leannan]

@AnaWryneck Yeah, I know. It's just hard to believe what I'm reading sometimes.

[Opinion Owner]

@AnaWryneck Those shaming tactics are right out of the feminist shaming tactic handbook.
https://i.imgur.com/Rd4dS5A.jpg

Everything I stated was based on facts. Even if they are negitive, and you don't like them, they don't stop being true.

Continuing on... You start agreeing with me. "Don't get married if you think it will end in divorce". EXACTLY what I said. Statistically they WILL end in divorce (6.9/1000 is the marriage rate, 3.2/1000 is the divorce rate... that's almost half. As per CDC stats.)
and statistically divorce is a cash cow for women, which is why most divorces are initiated by women. They have everything to gain from divorce and nothing to lose.
Custody is granted to women in 84.4%.
www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p60-225.pdf

Abuse is a scapegoat used by women to prevent men from getting the children.
...

[Opinion Owner]

Children are abused and killed by mothers twice as often as by fathers.
archive.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm09/cm09.pdf

30% of those named as fathers – bilked of child support unjustly
www.worldnetdaily.com/.../article.asp

Alimony is not paid to the parent who makes the least money.
It is paid to the female except in rare cases, regardless of her income.
www.wsj.com/.../SB10001424052748703399204574505700448957522

[Opinion Owner]

@CrystalChild In regards to women wanting to be home cooking and cleaning... actually, female happiness has declined exponentially over the last 50 years. WHY? Because women prefer the home lifestyle and the societal pressure to work and do what men have always done, stresses women out. They can't live up to the expectations and pressure of being "strong and independent".
My assertions are not selfish... they are based on studies and facts.
You can continue to try and shame and attack me as a person because you don't like those facts, but they remain facts. Even if you personally do not agree.

The same women (like yourself) who shame and attack a male for stating facts about women, are the same women who ignore and scoff at a male having the stresses and burdens of life which are far greater than yours.
Men built the world you live in and maintain it. Yet you give zero credit to that. You only see what YOU want as women. What benefits YOU as women.

[AnaWryneck]

Feminist handbook? You do hate women okay now that that's clear wouldn't it be non from to shame someone for being gay? Let alone what's the shame in being gay you seem to really really really be against male to female marriage because umm those statistics also include gay marriage doll you didn't say marry anyone you said men shouldn't marry women let alone 31% is half we round down not up let alone it's not per thousand it's by the thousands if you add up the marriage rate and the divorce rate the numbers do not show half Child support is support of the child it has nothin to do with marriage you can pay child support and not ever have been married a good way to avoid it is to get custodial rights of the child and if you are in fact making better money they will give it to you if you yes I agree women are two times more likely to kill their children but you left out the fact that those women have a precondition there for bitch was crazy before the baby and once again (continued)

[CrystalChild]

you're ridiculous. I sincerely hope you find inner peace on day

[AnaWryneck]

Alimony is paid to the person making less money when requested and only for half the time they have been married or until they can support themselves remarry or move in with another partner it's not a girl boy thing because ONCE AGAIN only 3% of men are requesting it

[Opinion Owner]

@CrystalChild So you can't rebut my FACTS, so instead you call me names and try to simply silence me with shaming tactics?

@AnaWryneck Obviously you didn't click on the stat link I posted which shows you that you are wrong.

[Opinion Owner]

You ladies are proving my point. You are being irrational and difficult because you are being met with criticism you don't like. But instead of being rational and having a conversation about it, you are both in attack mode and trying to silence me.

This kind of emotional childishness is what I was talking about.
The problem is that you KNOW I am right, the facts back me up and I have links to them so you can't pretend you don't see them.
But instead of changing how you act, you prefer to try and stop the truth.
This is why men shouldn't get married. It has nothing to do with "hating women" or any personal bullshit you try and claim about me.

[CrystalChild]

No I just literally see no point arguing with someone so seething with self pity and hatred that he can't stop for a minute and empathize with another human being. Facts are skewed. Unless you took this survey yourself, I literally don't care what you say

[lime_rampljuset]

people is very superficial and shallow, that's why the statistics... the poem says that in different words

[CrystalChild]

And the other "facts" are just your opinion so... Anyways have fun hating yourself and everything that comes in contact in your sad life

[AnaWryneck]

It's irrational to believe because other people got divorced you who had never been married will be divorced it's basically saying you are not an individual so no you're not being rational and also you're not even going with the current statistics you're just deciding men have it rough so don't marry women which sounds like marry men which had it been reverse you would see it from our points you simply sound sad

[Opinion Owner]

@CrystalChild I can't stop and empathize? YOU are attacking ME. Where is your empathy? I have not attacked YOU!
Facts are not "skewed" they are in black and white you simply need to click them.
You don't care what I say because it goes against you and it is true, so since you can't fight it, you silence it. It's a lack of responsibility which is common and why society kid gloves women. Stop playing victim and accept facts, even if they are hard to swallow.
You expect men to do it when you have shit against us, even when it's lies.
Can you not see how it isn't ME that is being irrational. It is your refusal to admit you are wrong.

[AnaWryneck]

@CrystalChild mind you I'm still trying to figure out what postpartum has to do with marriage I even showed it to my husband to get his point of view and he's like "I could of knocked you up the day before the wedding if I wanted to" (he couldn't of but that's the quote)

[Opinion Owner]

@AnaWryneck Statistically let's pretend that 80% of hamburger at McDonald's had cockroach's in them... would you eat a hamburger at McDonald's taking the chance that 20% don't have cockroaches or would you avoid McDonald's altogether?

[AnaWryneck]

We are not talking about food we are talking about people you don't get to know your hamburger before eating it you can't meet the cow it's made from you don't know it's opinion on being a hamburger or how it feels about the roaches inside it it's not food we are talking about it's a person so if you don't like guys and girls being together that's a totally on you thing maybe you're not into girls maybe girls are not into you so it makes you angry maybe your mom did some way fucked up shit to your dad so you blame all women for it fact is we are people not burgers life isn't MC Donald's no one really has it their way

[Opinion Owner]

@AnaWryneck It's called an analogy. Do you not understand the concept of an analogy?

I will try again...
If you could prove hat dating redheads lead to murder 80% of the time. Would you date a redhead?

[AnaWryneck]

I'm a red head so I would know that that's stupid let alone an analogy is to clarify a point using food as per why not to do something with people is flawed let alone the divorce rate is not 80% it's not even over the marriage rate so why focus on the negative and not the positive

[Opinion Owner]

@AnaWryneck WOW, you seriously do not have the ability to understand an analogy. They don't have any relivance to the hair color or you or food. It is a FICTIONAL COMPARISON!!!
It is a device used to allow people to understand one concept by creating a fictional similar comparison.

Please go gather some basic concepts of communication before responding.
We are done here.

[vonasaurus]

immature love says "i love you because i need you';
mature love says 'i need you because i love you'.

true love isn't all sunshine and rainbows; it's fighting over who does the laundry, but then doing it anyway, or waiting in recovery bay at the hospital so that your face is the first one s/he sees after a major surgery.

as someone who was terrified of marriage for years, let's just say that taking that step isn't as scary with the right person as it would have been, had i married for its own sake.

[AnaWryneck]

I found this both hilarious and some what true I because I don't have trouble doing these thing and I do want to give my husband the moon but he is not perfect I have a literal list of shit he does that I would change but it's cool cause that's my love ( I'm working my way up to the whole he's my world thing been together five years I can not say he's my world like my brain freezes at the thought I can't figure out how people feel like that like the world is such a big place even the biggest humans can't be a world I guess I'm literal)

[Anonymous]

1st it a couple years of love and happiness
2nd there's falling out of love and fighting all the time
3rd the stress you'll have going trough divorce
4th after divorce you'll be on your own with no money or home cause she'll have it all
5th the stress of finding a new home
6th you'll be very depressed broke and lonely
so yeah your right don't get married it's not worth it in the long run

p. s your a very smart man thinking that way keep it up

[lime_rampljuset]

:O :O

[coolbreeze]

Nice mytake and very poetic. Considering half marriages end in divorce im assuming the other half are made for each other and find ways to make it work or last. I met people who been married 30, 40 and 50 years. So they must be doing something right.

[lime_rampljuset]

:) :) :)

[Unit1]

Half of marriages ending in divorce. Yeah.
That definitely doesn't make it any more different if you decide to marry - You simply become part of the statistics: Either you stay married or you get divorced. And there is no warranty, that your marriage is going to be a happy one.

Conclusion: Why take such a high risk? You don't. You'll be fine if you won't :P

[coolbreeze]

😀😀😀😀

[luvstoned4him]

Wow, truly beautiful. Marriage is serious business. Marriage without love and respect can't last. I definitely am waiting and thinking seriously before I get into it.

[Unit1]

A serious business invented by and beneficial for the government :P

[lime_rampljuset]

@Unit1 marriage exists before government was invented, in fact government is was developed from marriage.

[luvstoned4him]

@lime_rampljuset thats true. It was used as a covenant between God and man.

[luvstoned4him]

@Unit1 its was back in BC. Part of the covenant set out for man.

[Unit1]

OK, I did not actually know that but what is for sure is, that the government uses marriage as their tool to manipulate us. The idea of marriage was sort of stolen by the church and adjusted.

[ProjectBaby1K]

Here's when to do it: NEVER

This post should have stopped at the first "DO NOT GET MARRIED". More so if you're a man, unless you'd like to playing Russian roulette with your financial status and your life.

[AnaWryneck]

So young so jaded

[CrystalChild]

@AnaWryneck lololilolil right. This guy's already been divorced 8 times, trust him, he knows

[ProjectBaby1K]

Jaded? Divorced? No 😄 Never been divorced once. Never going to be. I won't allow myself to get married!

[AnaWryneck]

@CrystalChild maybe it's a life experience something he's seen my husband says where he's from there's not too many married couples which is why he's big on it this can be the reverse of that

[ProjectBaby1K]

@AnaWryneck You talk to your husband about me?

[AnaWryneck]

Context where he's from he being my husband In comparing you to someone who grew up with out marriage

[ProjectBaby1K]

@AnaWryneck I did grow up with marriage. My parents have married for 40+ years, same parents for all my life.

[AnaWryneck]

There must be something wrong with then that you're so against marriage

[lime_rampljuset]

you should never get married if you're a shallow person, who only only looks at superficial stuff and never goes deeper.

[ProjectBaby1K]

@AnaWryneck Something wrong with me? No. There's something wrong with marriage. MANY things wrong with marriage.

@lime_rampljuset That doesn't matter. Most of people get married thinking marriage gives a relationship stable commitment. Whereas your supposed to already have stable commitment before you even decide to do it.

[AnaWryneck]

So what happened in your parents marriage that makes you think that

[CrystalChild]

I don't think you realize marriage isn't an entity it's an agreement between two people. A legally binding but also a faith and love binding one. It's not marriage that's the problem, it's people.

[ProjectBaby1K]

@AnaWryneck Nothing, my parents are literally the best example in my life. But my parents aren't American, life is completely different where they're from and they're 100% traditional.

It's marriage HERE in liberal feminist gynocentric America, that is the problem. If I lived where my parents came from, I'd want to married no problem. Nice try using shaming tactics though, maybe next time.

@CrystalChild When did I ever refer to marriage as an entity? It's an agreement between two people were you swear before each other, and even before God (if you're religious) that you will stay together through thick and thin until death do you apart.

But as soon as the honeymoon phase is over, people are QUICK to jump the divorce gun. Have you seen the statistics lately? Most marriage don't even go over 10 yrs! And then there's all the laws that screw you over if you're a man. Therefore the problem isn't only people, marriage itself has been ruined.

[CrystalChild]

Statistics only define you if you let them. I sincerely hope you gain a happier outlook on life one day. I'll leave it at that!

[ProjectBaby1K]

@CrystalChild Statistics only define me if I let them? No. Statistics reflect society like a mirror. Ofc you'll "leave it a that", you have no counterargument.

If the statistics indicate that a specific neighboorhood has high robbery and rape crime rate of 50%, I'm not going to walk the alleys of that neighboorhood...

As a matter of fact I'll avoid that neighboorhood. The same way I'll avoide marriage and he 50% divorce rate. I'd rather listen to the stats than to someone implying I should "have a happier outlook on life" and one day walk those alleys, only to be robbed. I'll leave it at that! ✌️

[CrystalChild]

Well friend, as a child of adoption, abuse, and depression, statistically speaking I should be on drugs, had a baby, and not have passed high school. None of those things are true. I'm sorry you're so angry about life. Good luck

[ProjectBaby1K]

@CrystalChild Learn what statistics are.

First, you're still are a statistic. If the stats indicating that 70% of children in your situation end up on drugs, pregnant and dropout, you're STILL a statistic since you're the the 30% that didn't end up that way.

Second, I'm not angry, I don't get why you think that I'm angry simply because I'd like to remain safe and not take risks.

But all right thanks. Good luck to you too!

[AnaWryneck]

So basically you don't want to Marry an American woman because we have our own wills and brain's.. It's sad but it makes sense a Submissive man needs a submissive woman in order to feel Dominant

[AnaWryneck]

P. S if the static is 31% that means 68% are successful so if you're going with statistics how bout not just the bad ones

[ProjectBaby1K]

@AnaWryneck Ugh...

First of all; No basically I don't want to marry American women since you child-like adults act without accountability and refuse to accept your responsibilities. And that's on top of your unrealistic expectations for marriage.
I find it funny that you insult the will and intelligence of traditional women when the divorce rate is historically high today in Western countries and the divorce rate is MUCH less in lesser developed countries. It should be the opposite way. Be ashamed of yourselves.

Secondly; What? Your concept on submissiveness is retarded 😂 If I'm submissive, why would I want a submissive wife?

Lastly; Please refrain from replying to me if you're going to copy and paste fallible made up statistics from feminist websites. 6.9/1000 is the marriage rate, 3.2/1000 is the divorce rate... As per the Census Bureau stats. 48% of marriages end within 20 years. That's approximately half. Get it right.

[Unit1]

Lady, there are only 2 rules of not getting married.

1. Do NOT get married!
2. Even more so if your gender is male.

It's that simple! It will save you and you will remember it.

[lime_rampljuset]

hahahahaha

[AnaWryneck]

So only Lesbians can get married? Damn it that sucks for those already doing it

[Unit1]

@AnaWryneck That's not what I really meant to say. Besides gay marriages exist too.

[AnaWryneck]

But you said not to do it if you're male so it counted them out

[Unit1]

@AnaWryneck Worry not. There will always be men, who always will want to get married and have children. I'm just not one of them and never will.

My happiness's source is freedom.

[AnaWryneck]

Power to ya sir

[Unit1]

@AnaWryneck Thanks!

[lostgirl_searching]

My boyfriend and I don't believe in marriage. We believe that you can be together without getting married. To me marriage doesn't prove anything.

[Unit1]

Lady, please tell me where you got cloned and I will find myself one of your sorts! 😂😂😂

[lostgirl_searching]

@Unit1 lol I'm not cloned. My parents just raised me and my sister and brother that marriage doesn't really mean you love them. My parents been together since high school and finally decided to get a marriage certificate when I was in 3rd grade, my brother was in 6th and my sister was a junior in High school. For some reason I just continue believing that getting married and having a wedding doesn't really mean anything.
My manager married his high school sweetheart. Bought her an expensive ring and had a big wedding and their marriage only lasted a year because he didn't want to get married in the first place he said he felt pressured. So I made a decision about marriage and weddings.

[Unit1]

I see.
Well I did not want to imply, that you got cloned. I just want to find myself a lady abstaining from marriages and children :(
I haven't found one and I don't think, that I will.

See when the pressure comes into a relationship, that always indicates the beginning of the end. That manager you are speaking of is probably a doormat.

[lostgirl_searching]

@Unit1 I understand and I really hope you do find someone, and I agree, I think he felt the same. So he decided to call it quits, wished he would of said no before spending a lot of money for the wedding.

[Unit1]

Yeah. I was thinking, that marriage was all about the money - if you think deeper than the piece of paper, that chains 2 people together, what exactly is involved hmmm?

Can you guess it?

MONAY!!!

[Abe90]

I don't necessarily believe in marriage. Nor do I want kids. So if I happen find someone that is as snarky as myself, then maybe I could POSSIBLY change my mind. BUT!!! I highly doubt it

[Anonymous]

whats with all the slut de-shaming/acceptance lately? why accept her past? i'm not oblidged to. she made her optios i'll make mine.

[Anonymous]

It is people like you who are the real reason that Good Muslims have to suffer with radicals now, idiot.
One bad apple spoils the whole rotten bunch.

[lime_rampljuset]

then leave the basket

[Opinion Owner]

hahaha I did.

[Opinion Owner]

Anyways, u did good here.

[art84]

I have yet to find someone so no plans on getting married yet. Would take a lot for me to get married though.

[Anonymous]

I have a better one:

NEVER get married if you are a man.

End of poem

[lime_rampljuset]

hahahahaha

[NightOwl8801]

Aww... that's so sweet.
I like that

[lime_rampljuset]

:) .3

[Anonymous]

yeah i dont really need people telling me what not to do

[lime_rampljuset]

dude, it's just a poem, with true in it

[Opinion Owner]

just sayin'

[chc0009]

Not until I have enough money. Also, I am a graduate student.

[ad48hp]

How do you even know who's gonna be married and at which time they are?

[Anonymous]

Ah what your saying is when it gets dull and boring with her (which it never will) Marry here to save the relationship

[lime_rampljuset]

you're being shallow... if you marry when is fun, you won't last more than 3 years married, you'll divorce.