@Savage_Wisdom. This is true but do modern women bring anything to the table? Why should man tolerate someone who has nothing to offer but drunken sex?
@KrakenAttackin ok everyone has their quirks even men. There are still women like me with low body counts. I go out with my family. I don’t like to party. When women present these things we get kick to the curb or cheated on. So we stick to to what we know.
I agree with you casual sex is the worst. The thing is how do you know it’s not casual if you’re in a relationship or you thought you were in a relationship how can you solidify that and think that this is going to be it or even maybe your fiancé and then they leave you
Of course it isn’t. But society also tells you that’s is okay to have inflated standards.
It’s okay to have standards. But think hard about what you can provide vs. what he has. Are you holding him to a higher standard than you hold yourself? The acid test question is “would you date yourself?”
It means you're a good person and you are holding yourself to a higher standard. I'm there now too and the same thoughts always go through my head so you aren't alone. But being a man with emotions seems like an undesirable in society and to women so I just drift away. I do what I can to improve myself daily but I don't want think it's the vet going to be enough for a woman to look my way The standard for beauty are so out of touch with reality
It's not wrong at all for you to want that. Society is in a weird place right now, sexually. We've got a bunch of people who do the casual sex thing because they're scared of getting hurt. It doesn't seem like anyone is actually enjoying it though. If what you want is to find genuine love; then do so without fear of being judged. It is so much more wholesome to go through life trying to make a connection than it is trying to have a few orgasms and a paycheck.
by the way i wasn't talking about only women when i said whores. I meant guys too even though some people believe guys can't be whores. I think they can.
Well nobody’s limiting it to the US. I’m only talking about where we are because that’s what I know. If other people have ideas about things it’s not unwelcome
@Justneedtokno. Yes, women want to get married but men have realized that marriage is too deadly for men.
Why wouldn't a woman want to get married and divorced. Society and the legal system heavily incentivise women to marry and divorce at the expense of men. Of course women want to get married. The question is, why would any sane man get married with the current legal system?
@KrakenAttackin I mean that when you are in a relationship it takes both people to make it work. You chose your spouse, just like they chose you. 44.6% of US marriages end in divorce. Though first marriages, are only about 41% likely to end in divorce. If people took longer to jump into marriage, those stats wouldn't be so high.
Honestly I think that people just don't want to put in the effort into their relationships. Marriage is hard, it takes work, it takes effort, and if you aren't willing to put in that effort. You shouldn't be getting married.
@KrakenAttackin so you don't think that would should be willing to put effort into your relationship? You don't think that it can hard sometimes? You don't think that sometimes you have to work to resolve issues sometimes?
If you thing that marriage is gonna be sunshine and roses all the time, and that it's not gonna take effort sometime and that you won't have to sit down with your spouse and actually communicate and deal with issues when they arise.. you're living in a fairy tale my friend.
@KrakenAttackin Marriage takes work and this is how I know from a 4 year old marriage a 27 year old marriage and a even 53 year old marriage. They are trials you’re opening and sharing your life with someone else when you were just one person on your own. You have to factor in their feelings and financial changes life changes such as having a baby a newborn yet trust me it’s work
whatever women do, the government, society and their armies of white knights support. When a man says he doesn't want a relationship he's immediately attacked and shamed. you're gay, you have a small dick, you're a sexist pig, you hate women, you're selfish. all this dumb castration language women love to use.
Girls stop saying you don't find good relationship just because guys only want sex you are the one who are agreed to have sex in ther first place sleeping with multiple guys sending nude showing your ass on the internet like a hoe dating is become an excuse for sex if guys getting easy sex then why not? hookup culture is destroying you and true meaning of the love and relationship with apps like only fan, instagram, snapchat, tinder through the time you will loose "respect"
You just have to have hope and be smart with who you choose to date
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It's a sick world. This degeneracy of faking love for one night sex only took over and real love vanished to the point, that people aren't trying anymore to find real love. If you conform to them, you might as well be joining them.
I just think if you like a guy and he seems to like you give it up sooner rather than later then if he sticks around he's definitely into you and if he doesn't then it doesn't matter and you haven't wasted your time
I'm like you and can't play the game of no strings without getting attached. I want a relationship and it's normal. I think it's difficult to find someone who is not after sex only but I guess it will work out someday.
But most women that have slept around and are trash wants commitment from a good guy that hasn't done that. I think it is just the majority of people that are bad, not just one gender.
Not at all. If you want a stable relationship then that is what you should hold out for. There are many guys who want the same, even if they don't admit it.
It’s not wrong to want a relationship. Do what’s right for you, Date people who want the same as you (if you find out they don’t) move on and date waste your time.
it seems like hook up could take good care of sexual needs these days. why do you go through hardship with relationship? I mean relationship has lots of hurtles. it's very hard sometimes. so just have a f buddy and be happy. and if you can't attract anyone after you get older, use someone as an escort. I have seen men escorting women in a website. He will take good care of you.
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If you know what's going to happen, it's called a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Think about it: is it really possible to know what's going to happen?
Long term relationships are the greatest virtue of life, to me at least.
Casual sex is ultimately meaningless, so there's no shame in seeking something more serious.
@Savage_Wisdom. This is true but do modern women bring anything to the table? Why should man tolerate someone who has nothing to offer but drunken sex?
Effectively communicate what is it exactly do you want from women or at least the one you want to bring to the that I
@Justneedtokno. What do men want from women? First that she bit be mentally ill, not a party girl, not have a high body count.
We want her to treat us nicely, be kind, faithful, and feminine. It's really that easy but it seems to be beyond the reach of 95% of modern women.
@KrakenAttackin ok everyone has their quirks even men. There are still women like me with low body counts. I go out with my family. I don’t like to party.
When women present these things we get kick to the curb or cheated on. So we stick to to what we know.
I agree with you casual sex is the worst. The thing is how do you know it’s not casual if you’re in a relationship or you thought you were in a relationship how can you solidify that and think that this is going to be it or even maybe your fiancé and then they leave you
Of course it isn’t. But society also tells you that’s is okay to have inflated standards.
It’s okay to have standards. But think hard about what you can provide vs. what he has. Are you holding him to a higher standard than you hold yourself? The acid test question is “would you date yourself?”
It means you're a good person and you are holding yourself to a higher standard. I'm there now too and the same thoughts always go through my head so you aren't alone. But being a man with emotions seems like an undesirable in society and to women so I just drift away. I do what I can to improve myself daily but I don't want think it's the vet going to be enough for a woman to look my way
The standard for beauty are so out of touch with reality
It's not wrong at all for you to want that. Society is in a weird place right now, sexually. We've got a bunch of people who do the casual sex thing because they're scared of getting hurt. It doesn't seem like anyone is actually enjoying it though. If what you want is to find genuine love; then do so without fear of being judged. It is so much more wholesome to go through life trying to make a connection than it is trying to have a few orgasms and a paycheck.
There are guys looking for a relationship/serious relationship. Don't change your beliefs and values because of the whores out there
by the way i wasn't talking about only women when i said whores. I meant guys too even though some people believe guys can't be whores. I think they can.
80-90% people still value marriage around the world. Stop making US the sole role model
Well nobody’s limiting it to the US. I’m only talking about where we are because that’s what I know. If other people have ideas about things it’s not unwelcome
@AmeerX. Marriage is dead and women killed it.
@AmeerX Sir please don’t listen to him. Women still want to get married
@Justneedtokno. Yes, women want to get married but men have realized that marriage is too deadly for men.
Why wouldn't a woman want to get married and divorced. Society and the legal system heavily incentivise women to marry and divorce at the expense of men. Of course women want to get married. The question is, why would any sane man get married with the current legal system?
@KrakenAttackin takes two to tango
@Subarugirl What dies that mean?
@KrakenAttackin I mean that when you are in a relationship it takes both people to make it work. You chose your spouse, just like they chose you. 44.6% of US marriages end in divorce. Though first marriages, are only about 41% likely to end in divorce. If people took longer to jump into marriage, those stats wouldn't be so high.
Nobody wants to get divorced at least not personally. But there are other factors. That are involved and you know that
Honestly I think that people just don't want to put in the effort into their relationships. Marriage is hard, it takes work, it takes effort, and if you aren't willing to put in that effort. You shouldn't be getting married.
@Subarugirl I do truly agree with it. When everything so instant
by the way when I say you, I mean just people in general, not you specifically.
@Subarugirl "Marriage is hard it takes work"... wrong, marriage should not be "hard work".
@KrakenAttackin so you don't think that would should be willing to put effort into your relationship? You don't think that it can hard sometimes? You don't think that sometimes you have to work to resolve issues sometimes?
If you thing that marriage is gonna be sunshine and roses all the time, and that it's not gonna take effort sometime and that you won't have to sit down with your spouse and actually communicate and deal with issues when they arise.. you're living in a fairy tale my friend.
@KrakenAttackin Marriage takes work and this is how I know from a 4 year old marriage a 27 year old marriage and a even 53 year old marriage. They are trials you’re opening and sharing your life with someone else when you were just one person on your own. You have to factor in their feelings and financial changes life changes such as having a baby a newborn yet trust me it’s work
Am I wrong @KrakenAttackin
I also forget physical and mental changes as well how do you start off in a marriage isn’t always the way he look and act later on in a marriage
Not at all you should never apologize or think it’s wrong to hold yourself to a higher standard or want something meaningful.
Take your time and find someone worth your time and effort, find the right one.
Yes it still makes sense since not everyone likes hook up culture and different people have different faith's and beliefs.
whatever women do, the government, society and their armies of white knights support. When a man says he doesn't want a relationship he's immediately attacked and shamed. you're gay, you have a small dick, you're a sexist pig, you hate women, you're selfish. all this dumb castration language women love to use.
Why wouldn't it happen? There are good people out there who want a healthy relationship, you just have to be willing to look.
True and finding real love and the right person ain't easy these days...
Girls stop saying you don't find good relationship just because guys only want sex you are the one who are agreed to have sex in ther first place sleeping with multiple guys sending nude showing your ass on the internet like a hoe dating is become an excuse for sex if guys getting easy sex then why not? hookup culture is destroying you and true meaning of the love and relationship with apps like only fan, instagram, snapchat, tinder through the time you will loose "respect"
You just have to have hope and be smart with who you choose to date
It's a sick world. This degeneracy of faking love for one night sex only took over and real love vanished to the point, that people aren't trying anymore to find real love. If you conform to them, you might as well be joining them.
I just think if you like a guy and he seems to like you give it up sooner rather than later then if he sticks around he's definitely into you and if he doesn't then it doesn't matter and you haven't wasted your time
I'm like you and can't play the game of no strings without getting attached. I want a relationship and it's normal. I think it's difficult to find someone who is not after sex only but I guess it will work out someday.
I want a relationship but it seems like most guys only want sex with no commitment it's annoying.
Exactly. A married guy is currently attracted to me, steals glances with me and he dresses up and sets his hair purposely in front of me.
I've caught him looking at me many times.
But most women that have slept around and are trash wants commitment from a good guy that hasn't done that. I think it is just the majority of people that are bad, not just one gender.
Not at all. If you want a stable relationship then that is what you should hold out for. There are many guys who want the same, even if they don't admit it.
It’s not wrong to want a relationship. Do what’s right for you, Date people who want the same as you (if you find out they don’t) move on and date waste your time.
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it seems like hook up could take good care of sexual needs these days. why do you go through hardship with relationship? I mean relationship has lots of hurtles. it's very hard sometimes. so just have a f buddy and be happy. and if you can't attract anyone after you get older, use someone as an escort. I have seen men escorting women in a website. He will take good care of you.