Do you think sadistic people can be highly empathetic?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

What I found out is that people who are sadistic, can actually be highly empathetic as well. I mean the ones who are highly self-aware as well.

What’s your experience?

Maybe sometimes the evilest thoughts can give birth to the kindest people?

[HighlyVolatile]

I suspect instead of having very active mirror neurons, they have an analytical type of empathy. They might be extremely skilled at reading body language and understanding what other people feel, but don't necessarily feel what they feel. At least that's the only way I could imagine it. I'm skewed towards the empathetic end of the spectrum but not at all sadistic, and don't think I could be, because I would suffer together with the person I'm hurting.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Interesting. For that last sentence, maybe sadist can also be a masochist, especially if they are highly empathetic because when they are hurting others they hurt too. Don’t know.

I am highly empathetic, but I found out deep down I have sadistic tendencies too.

And I find it crazy to have both of them together in one person, however, I act out my highly empathetic self, always helping the weak and protecting them but it doesn’t change the fact that I can be sadistic as well. But when I am angry, I find it hard to control.

[HighlyVolatile]

I got a bit of a temper as well, and I actually enjoy fighting a bit too much. I think in the heat of the moment I can get quite aggressive, but once things dissipate, I find myself with no will to actually see the other person suffer.

I've had these incidents when I was growing up where I'd get in a fight in the schoolyard with another boy and if I ended up hitting him too hard and he fell down, I'd instantly feel guilty and rush up to him and ask him if he's all right. Like I just wanted to stand my ground and defend myself, not actually hurt the other person.

[HighlyVolatile]

I actually managed to befriend the school bully this way since I not only fought back but helped him when he was knocked down. And I think he was most surprised that I rushed to help him (I suspect the reason he was such a bully is that maybe he was bullied himself in his home).

Then he became like a loyal bodyguard following me around. But he was such an annoying friend because he'd start to bully my other friends and I'd have to scold him all the time.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Wow, cool. I have a similar story.

I was actually a friend of a school bully too and that’s weird because I was friend of bullied people too, I befriended the bully without my intention I stood up to him a few times and also my empathy helped me understand him better. I, too, was abused at home and I understood him.

Because of that he was someone who always stood for me as well and when I told him he was not doing the right thing bullying people, he would actually stop doing that cause he respected my opinion and wanted to look good in my eyes.

He told me I was the only person he respected and he always talked about me at home and always did what I asked him to do.

I did lots of weird things at school and I was a weirdo, but I was never bullied because for some reason other bullies respected me as well.

I’ve been told that’s maybe because of my eyes, I have very intense eyes and I think it’s easy to see, I’m not the one to be bullied.

And I am the same way, I can become too aggressive when I get angry and I am not a fearful person because I know if I get angry, another person must be scared, cause I become the most sadistic version of myself and of course I, too, regret it later but thankfully, so far I have not done something I had to regret a a lot.

[HighlyVolatile]

One thing I've noticed at least in myself is a very dark side of empathy. For example, I could be reading Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler and for a moment, I start to empathize and see the world like Adolf Hitler. I don't sympathize at all and find the views horrific, but for moments I actually begin to think like Adolf Hitler. I absorb some of his thoughts temporarily like they're my own thoughts even though I would never think such things. Of course, I snap out of it quickly, yet there are moments when I could be listening to or reading the works of someone so horrible (a serial killer as another example), and they became like my own.

It's like I see the capability for myself to think this way and act that way, even though I don't. So I'm not just swayed by seeing people suffer in ways that swing my mood, or seeing people happy in ways that swing my mood, but I also absorb the "darker energies" and thoughts of people around me. It starts to feel a bit schizophrenic with all these other feelings and thoughts that people have; I sometimes reach a point where they blur into my own thoughts and feelings.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

That’s very interesting because I can relate to some of what you say.

In my teens I thought I was a psychopath, but I am too sociable, kind and empathetic to be one.

So I always felt out of place, because I thought there was something not normal about me but I also wasn’t a psychopath.

What I found out is I might be a dark empath. Search it in Google, you might be interested.

I suppressed my sadistic tendencies since I was 13-14. I remember telling myself, you have to choose which side you want to follow. Because I didn’t want to hurt anyone but I saw I was quite sadistic, so I told myself anyone can be the bad guy, but it’s rare for bad guys to try to be good and protect the weak instead of making them hurt.

Might sound weird but have always related to the quote from Sherlock “I might be on the side of angels but don’t think for a second I am one of them.”

I not only have dark empathy but I feel like I can be that dark personality, if I chose to.

For Hitler, I never sympathized with him but I had a strict preference to date only blond, blue eyed guys until I traveled to China and met my boyfriend, who I fell madly in love with and I love him so much, I am the best version of me with him, but I think sometimes he misses those bad girl vibes I had when I met him, it’s just he is the last person I want to hurt and I am pretty good at hurting people when I want.

I am very protective of this, even though I live in Eastern Europe and here, not many girls have Asian boyfriends and it’s kinda looked down to have one by some racist idiots, in my 3 years of relationship no one even dared to say anything about my relationship other than showing their respect, that’s something I noticed people respect me for some reason, I am not boasting, it’s just something they do instinctively. They even copy me, now many girls started thinking it’s cool to date Asian guys, after they saw me dating one.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

For that part about empathizing with criminals, I, maybe sometimes do, but mostly I don’t, because I always feel like they gave in to something I always successfully fought in my personality, so being against them for me is like knowing maybe I too am capable of being like them, but I’m not and by opposing aggressors I oppose that side of mine deep down. Don’t know if I explain right.

[HighlyVolatile]

I've seen watched videos and read articles on dark empaths. Somehow I don't think I quite fit since I am still very morally constrained. I don't want to manipulate people, so to speak, even if I might be decent at it. Being a decent and moral person tends to be my number one goal and ideal in life (I sometimes fall short through my temptations, like I'm a little too addicted to alcohol these days).

I like the Sherlock quote very much!

[HighlyVolatile]

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[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I don’t manipulate people either, I am a very straightforward person and always directly ask for what I want.

But I feel like I am capable of it.

Anyway, that was interesting to talk with you.

[HighlyVolatile]

The way I look at criminals like serial killers is that it's "unfortunate". I think we have to put them away to protect society. Most of them tend to have negligent or abusive childhoods or at least very odd ones and sometimes even neurological defects. I often think I too might have become a serial killer if I were in the same shoes. That's not to excuse their behavior in the way of allowing it to go unpunished; I think the punishment is absolutely required. Yet I tend to forgive them in the sense of not being able to hate them even though I think they need to be put away.

[HighlyVolatile]

Cheers!

[Guy13]

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[AvaOneLasTime]

Its possible - looking at my ex.
That son of a... How can a monster like this hug me like that all night.

[OneNineZero]

I am yet to meet that kind of a person in reali life so I can say there are such people or there ain't

[JuanVeIasco]

No, what happens is we are very good at pretending.
Male gang members have dramatically more female sexual partners

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

“We” like sadists?

Do you consider yourself as one of them?

[JuanVeIasco]

I don't consider myself, I am. Almost all women think the same as you, it's normal.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I don’t think almost all women think the same, cause I’m not addressing make sadism in this text, this question is about me ;)

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

*male

[JuanVeIasco]

About males? therefore, most women think that sadists can be empathic.

[Beta_incel]

Yes, it's just what turns them on but if there's consent from both parties there's no issue, i love sadistic women.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I don’t mean sexual sadism. I mean sadism - generally.

[Beta_incel]

Ohh, well i don't know about that, some people are psychopaths

[Staximus]

If a sadistic person was empathetic, then why would they be sadistic?

[noohair]

I disagree. Violent sadists inflict pain to get pleasure.

[WhitneySnow]

I’ve never encountered this

[Anonymous]

I am looking for sadistic woman but never found

[Opinion Owner]

I thought u are sadistic

[SignedAutographs]

Nope