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1.7K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Unfortunately, most people (all genders) rely on bait and switch to find a partner. Once they hook the person, they remove their mask and say "If you love me, you'll accept me as I am." This only leads to bitterness and resentment. It would be nice if we were encouraged from an early age to feel good about ourselves, rather than be programmed to conform to particular molds. Uniqueness leads to confidence. Conformity leads to feels of inadequacy. When people feel they don't measure up, they feel they have to pretend to be someone else in order to attract anyone. The truth will always come out.
Yes, this is annoying, but what are we going to do to reduce this pattern? We can teach our kids they are unique and special (not princesses with great entitlement). We can take our time to explore and discover potential matches rather than just see what we want to see. There are some simple question we can ask to get a clearer picture of the other person. I've posted them here before, but I'll share them again if people ask for them. Rather than sit around and stew in annoyance, ask yourself what you can do to move yourself in a positive direction. You'll never be able to control the people around you, but you do have control over your own choices.
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3.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. EVERYONE does this to an extent. You might not realize that you do, but you do.
Yes, I absolutely agree that there are people who do this to a much greater extreme than average, and that's a real problem, but if you think you don't do this to some extent yourself, you are delusional.
There's a REASON they call it the "honeymoon period" - usually around 6 months - after which people get comfortable around each other and typically don't put in as much effort as before. Yes, this is where relationships REALLY take some work, and, yeah, not everyone is willing to put in that work, but that includes women just as much as men. Clearly many couples survive that 6-12 month danger zone where the honeymoon period has ended and they have to transition to long-term effort, so it absolutely can be done, but not everyone is willing to make that effort.
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Honestly I’ve experience the more extreme case where the person significantly decreased in their effort after getting into the relationship. Your assuming I do this but honestly I don’t and in fact I started putting more effort as time went by cause either I felt like I did something wrong or I was trying to get the old version out of him. Looking back I was definitely manipulated into the relationship cause he simply didn’t want to be alone. It wasn’t that he was genuine with his intentions and with me. This stuff is one of the warning signs I see in a person now. Now I agree there will be some sort of change between dating and relationship I get that. But it def shouldn’t be that drastic… you should still be showing your partner you care even if it’s in small ways. You would be if you actually do. Also both people need to be communicating what they actually would value in the relationship and what they are seeking long term. I feel like it was never really did that with my previous relationship and it led to a lot of wasted years. His words barely matched his actions after the first couple of months so honestly who knows what bs I would have been fed. Bottom line if the words and actions don’t align something is off. When you love someone you would be showing it in some way.
I hate when men seem wonderful when we’re first dating but slowly show their true colors. I’ve learned the hard way that’s a classic personality trait of a narcissist. They mirror your likes, dislikes and desires. They’ll go to any lengths to win you as if you’re their next big prize to be won. But once they have you, it’s like you no longer matter to them. The reality is that you never did actually matter to them…it’s the chase that fuels them, not a desire for real communication, understanding and appreciation. Narcissists are in love with being in love. Their over inflated egos make them appear confident and cocky but underneath it all they’re actually unhappy with many aspects of themselves. They can never love another person until they learn to love themselves first. Though, I imagine few narcissists achieve that goal since they hate being alone and without time alone introspection most likely won’t happen.
I’m a narcissist magnet which I don’t understand. I’m polite, caring, I even volunteer in my community so why do they love me (or think they love me) like they do? They swarm me like zombies. Haha. Funny but scary.64 Reply- +1 y
I agree. I refuse to allow anyone to change me unless it’s for the better. Though people can’t change another person for the better, they can only guide someone they care about to want to improve themselves.
I’ve learned to look out for warning signs of a classic narcissist and end things immediately when I see them!
Yeah extremely annoying. I was with this really nice guy once but then when we got together all consideration was thrown out the window. My schedule is kinda hectic so we can't Jan out all the time and when I say I couldn't he'd say find a way for us to meet up but if he's busy for let's say 2 days and I wanna meet up I totally understood that he couldn't. His whole big on consent was also a load of crap, once I was showering and he was over at my house barged into the the bathroom even after I told him to get out. people like this just make actually nice guys look bad.
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620 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Absolutely. If you ask people that have been in a relationship for 20 years and so on, they will tell you the effort put in to make it that far never stops.
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+1 yI'd think you find it far worse than just "annoying" - it should be a red flag. Men or women who like the chase and conquer portion of the interaction most, rarely value the catch as much once they have it. The problem is these people are usually very adept at this game, and their enthusiasm masks everything and sweeps you up in it. Then the letdown comes and all you're left with is that "what the fuck" feeling because you didn't see it coming. Not just annoying - it sucks and is a good reason to move on, in my opinion.
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+1 yThat's how most people are. Guys and gals peacock around to try and impress which sets the STANDARD for the other.
Which is why I refuse to do any of that. For the first date I don't dress up or do anything fancy - it's just plain ordinary me. IF they like that, then they're going to love when I go all out, but at least I know they enjoy the everyday me. It's worked so well so far.21 Reply 794 opinions shared on Relationships topic. That's an unfortunate side effect from how pretty much everyone views a relationship. Based on social media and what are introduced to on TV. The pressure of feeling less worth if they are not in a relationship, the convience of the instant satisfaction from tinder if they choose. There's lots of reasons for it being that way. Maybe people focus too much on what they can get instead of what they need or want...
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Yep I totally agree. In my younger years I used to give into this too and remain unhappy where I was at. Now I don’t want any garbage just show me who you truly are and we can see if we are even compatible. Now it blows my mind how many people enter relationships and they aren’t even compatible. I just don’t have time for that anymore lol.
+1 yYeah. I think that some people both men and women. They want to get the person they want. But as time goes on they don’t put the same effort into it anymore. Maybe they think they already won you. Maybe sometimes. People don’t do it intentionally.
Intentionally or not. A relationship both people have to be putting their effort into one another. Otherwise things can get pretty miserable pretty fast.10 Reply
+1 yI do. It’s irritating as well because it’s hard to tell the difference between a genuine person and a non-genuine person when they both do the same things but change once you’re both in the relationship. I guess, just make sure the reason your going for a relationship is for the companionship of it all, the intimacy both emotionally and physically, and not to “win,” them.
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+1 yYea that happens when you been in a relationship for quite sometime. It's called getting comfortable, the bot of you are in love (hopefully) and use to each other ways. You don't feel like you have to do the extreme or extra mile versus when you first met each other. Never let the sizzle or romance die out your relationship, you gotta keep falling in live with each other everytime. In otherworldly be each other's morticia and gomez..
20 Reply That’s why I am determined to treat my girlfriend before marriage as if we were already married (excluding the more intimate stuff of course). Getting the headspace early on towards what would being married be like, is the most efficient way to go about it in my opinion. Slowly easing the two train tracks of two different people to one train track should be the journey of courtship before marriage. That way there shouldn’t be too much difference before and after marriage.
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+1 yDefinitely, I hate it when someone pursues me but then once they get me, they made me an option while I made them a priority. They got me but then they don't want anything serious until I want to end it and move on, then suddenly they do.
Honestly, though, most people when dating are not the same after. I know I'm not, I admit it.
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+1 yYup, they were like sweet as tons of sugar then once they got u, their sweets slowly fading, ants stole it i guess.. once they got no sweet at all and it became bitter, well guess they doesn't love or like us like they used to, well maybe they got bored lmao
00 ReplyWhat I find annoying is people who use romantic relations, to don't feel alone, or lonely. They'll say they love you, but do anything within their possibility to avoid intimacy with you.
12 Reply1.4K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Yes, it's definitely feeling like I've been sold a bill of goods. That's why I always bring the same energy in the beginning as I would later on. But that's usually not enough for the women who want to be love bombed and have my attention all the time. It's bloody exhausting trying to keep up with their expectations. That's probably why guys withdraw. Women withdraw because they're attracted to someone else.
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Yes, but the odds that you wind up in a relationship with that sort of guy is lower because you'd misconstrue what he can maintain with a lack of interest or move onto a guy who's showing more interest. The level of interest needed to be shown is generally higher to get into a relationship than to keep one. If it wasn't, guys wouldn't put as much effort into the beginning.
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Hmm what about genuine effort though lol. If it feels like a chore to make the woman you claim to love feel valued then either your not ready for that type of relationship or you don’t love her as much as you think you do. When I look at a guy I look at genuine intentions. If they are just looking for a relationship cause they are lonely or filling some type of void they usually will love bomb you initially and then claim oh your expections are too high I can’t maintain this and the thing I was trying to impress you with. Again if it’s genuine it shouldn’t feel like a chore.
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+1 yLet me give you a Truth Bomb (for Free):
If this happens to you, it's YOUR fault. It's because you were extremely demanding and you make them over-exert themselves just to get a date with you. Did you REALLY think that a man was going to give you 200% effort 24/7 for the rest of his life?
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Look girl,
women always ask for it, they adore men who treat them like crap.
I’m not an incel nor do I have anything against you, I just have experienced enough in my life to know this.
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Being tunnel visioned means you can only see life through your eyes. Your comment very much points to that. Not all women prefer to be treated like garbage and if they do did you ever reflect why some do? It has been proven women can gravitate towards men like their fathers so if their father was a piece of shit they are more likely to get into abusive situations. Just because some women settle for less doesn’t mean they deserve less either. Women go through a lot too not just men. Tunnel vision is not a compliment either it actually destroys relationships with people cause they tend to lack empathy when they think like that.
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And hear me out so like sometimes we just meet people at really bad stages of their life and they aren’t mentally capable of much when it comes to relationships. That’s really unfortunate but it’s true. I’ve been trying to figure out like warning signs for such people and if you look closely there usually are. I just like to start with getting to know people and where they actually are in life before getting into anything.
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+1 yYea it can be disappointing but that’s why it’s important to move slow and why whirl wind romances can sometimes be so catastrophic.
10 Reply 309 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Yes, that is very annoying. Aparantly men assume that once in a relationship, the women now know that they can just ask for what they want, and the guy will be happy to do it for them.
00 Reply390 opinions shared on Relationships topic. I found myself getting very burned out keeping up with my former girlfriend. She loved being very outgoing which I was all for, but it got to a point where going 3 hours out of the way for a date got tiring.
04 ReplyIs your energy always the same at the start during a relationship?
02 Reply1.4K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Pull the plug.. because once you get in to the relationship the deeper the energy should become everything gets better and better
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+1 yEspecially when it's a 30 year old momma's boy.
00 ReplyThat’s normal, they treat u so nice to fuck you once they got to fuck they started to treat you like piece of shit
00 ReplyMost people both find that annoying and do that in their own relationships
00 Reply388 opinions shared on Relationships topic. For starters ask them whats changed.. If they cop an attitude just break it off and like clockwork they will treat you well to win you back
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yPar for the course. Most people do this, by degree. Probably you too
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Honestly I don’t. And I’m talking here about effort. Now with time if the person isn’t showing as much effort as he did before he got me eventually I will start dying down my effort. Bottom line of the other person is still putting in consistent effort and your not you are taking the other for granted. If someone can’t put in the effort anymore just shows they were putting on a mask to win you.
Opinion Owner+1 yLess a mask, more a question of allocation of resources. It's important to spend significant time and money on your new love at the start because you're learning about them and generating memories from nothing.
Later on, you probably need to apply that time and effort elsewhere. That's life.
Not that you're working of, more that you're transitioning to a real life scenario.- +1 y
I’m talking more right after getting into the relationship. Also what your saying is why a lot of relationships fail. If you stop making time for your partner, whether it’s a simple phone call or good morning thinking of you text or just chilling on the couch at night and talking to each other about your days, the relationship will die. If someone has the time to put in the effort to win you they have the time to put in the effort to keep you.
Opinion Owner+1 yYes, I tend to agree. Being ignored or bring downgraded in priority is irritating and dispiriting.
The difference is the degree to which this happens.- +1 y
@nspencer everybody wears a mask If you don’t like the cop 👮that is disrespecting you You be nice as to avoid any Trouble when in reality you wanna Tell that cop To fuck off but you don’t because you know you don’t wanna say the wrong thing to a cop Because they have power that’s what a mask is a mask isn’t just a thing you wear the mask is (YOU)
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@BigschlongEnergy I don’t know if your actually talking about cops only but I think your saying the other person then doesn’t mention that the lack of effort upsets them and that is a mask? Yes I agree I have been guilty of that and take full ownership for it. From personal experience when someone love bombs you in the beginning and portrays themselves a certain way before getting into a relationship with you you get pretty hooked to the person and you fall in love. When the relationship is official or they start to withdraw that affection you remain fixated to the idea they portrayed themselves to be. And yeah a lot of people don’t leave initially for many reasons such as they think they did something wrong or they don’t know which version of the person they are getting that day… been there done that and never again! It’s extremely toxic. Do you really think the mask the other person has on because they simply love the person is comparable to the mask the other wore to gain a relationship or sex and then devalue them later? If you do I feel sorry for you.
+1 yI see 90 day fiancé and they do it a lot. When they date guys are so sweet but then they turn so cold and neglect their wife girl friend.
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+1 yOf course the effort that goes in fishing is never the same as the effort in burping
00 ReplyLoL I think everyone had gone through that
Toys look so great when they are in the store window but lose their appeal once you get them home01 Reply- 789 opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yYeah. People are the worst! Ell oh ell!
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+1 yWhole mood
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+1 yKind of and people change
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+1 yYes!
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yYes, that's annoying, but what can you do?
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Opinion Owner+1 yThat's the only way to go in my opinion. Take your time and never be in a hurry. :)
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yMade the mistake of staying with them way to long
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYes, I hate it when women do that.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yProbably because she hurt him bad
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Opinion Owner+1 yYeah it mostly is the case
7.9K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Maybe their energy didn't change and yours did
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I mean yeah it should definitely be talked about but no a relationship should not decrease in effort it should increase among both and both should be giving to each other like they once did. If his or her effort decreased after winning you it was just that.. a mask to win you. If someone can’t give the effort cool… but simply don’t pretend and get into a relationship
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