Agree or Disagree: Men have not changed what they want in women... women have changed what they expect from men?

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Finchie40 · Accepted Answer

Most women these days have changed , I blame a lot of it on social media for brain washing most people’s heads in general , to believe in things that aren’t really true and mostly nonsense , Most girls’ are glued to social media because most girls ‘ seek validation and most girls love status and love to shop Social media was designed as a money making platform to draw people in to make money , instead of having a salesman show up on your door step like back in the day trying to sell you some cheap as vacuum for a 1000 bucks , now they just show up on your cell phone or computer or tv etc. Most females have the grass is greener on the other side Mindset , by thinking her life should be better than what she already has in front of her Most females feel they were put on this Earth to be catered to , that she shouldn’t have to lift a finger , she was taught to find herself a man that can pay for everything , so she can just focus on herself and her looks , Why most divorces these days are initiated by women , that only want what is best for herself , Most women are vulnerable to status and validation , , she can have a good guy by her side that loves her and takes care of her and treats her well , but the second she notices another guy that she feels is better than her partner , she more Than likely won’t hesitate to jump on his cock, especially if things aren’t going her way in her current relationship or lifestyle , I have witnessed and experienced this shit too many times with girls these days , to the point I know I am more right than wrong. Most girls’ don’t look at love and commitment the same as most men do , Most girls today have a very selfish mindset , basically her way or no way , why so many guy’s today do not want to get married , Guy’s are having a harder time trusting in girls mainly for this reason. unless she proves she loves and stands by him no matter what and makes him her top priority and is submissive to him that’s a girl a man should keep at all Cost, Girls that aren’t submissive to you , kick them to the curb where they belong. When a girl loves her man she has no problem being submissive to him , but if she stops being submissive to him she is more than likely being submissive to another guy. Don’t think otherwise Most girls today just like the convenience of being with a guy , but she truly doesn’t love him. Most girls are vulnerable when it comes to her Girlfriends as well , if her girlfriends are toxic she won’t have a clue they are. Toxic friends that will feed her head that she deserves better than what she already has, making her feel like she can do better. Girlfriends that will introduce her to other men and compare other men to her partner. Little does she realize , her so called friends aren’t really her friends. Sadly most girls’ can’t be friends with each other , most girls’ hate each other and are jealous of each other , and talk shit behind each others back , but will be nice to their face and act like everything is fine , they will invite her to weekend getaways acting all sweet and innocent , but sadly most girls ‘ aren’t sweet and innocent as most guy’s think they are. Most girls think they are sneaky and think they can easily play sweet and innocent when really she is a whore. So my advice is find yourself a girl that is submissive to you , if she isn’t submissive to you , kick her to the curb where she belongs.

worldscolide · Accepted Answer

Women are the only gender who go into a relationship hoping to change the man.. Where as men have no desire to change the woman. We prefer she stay the same, which never happens.

A_Bell · Accepted Answer

Values are all screwed up, but everything will eventually come to a reckoning.

Unless each woman in a culture has 2 children per generation on average, that culture will eventually go extinct.

Western culture is averaging something like 1.5 and falling. Every 2 generations (-40 years), that's a permanent 50% reduction in future population. If it drops to 1, that's 50% every ~20 years. At that rate, in 100 years, Western culture would have permanently reduced to about 3% of population capacity.

China is going to go through this crucible now. Something like 40 years of a one child policy combined with selecting for male babies has left them with few women of child bearing years. Even though they are encouraging 3 children now, the one-child culture is so ingrained that it is not taking root. Many estimates have their aging population of retirees bankrupting their small population of younger people as their numbers shring to as low as 500 million or so.

So while China, Japan and the decadent west reduce in population, other cultures will rise that place less emphasis on play and leisure and more on family.

So, did women or men change? Yes, but not for the better, unless you mean being self focused narcissists with no sense of duty, sacrifice, commitment or community.

19magic · Accepted Answer

I mean yes and no, women were forced to adapt initially because of the war and then you had the women freedom movements some good and some downright insane - lying down on roads in front of cars caused the men to say do we want to give rights to people who do that.

But with the modern relationship and having a family with a 2 income household, then yeah women have a right to want more from a relationship. If in this example you have two full time parents and then two kids, there's been many times you have the man working or working and bedtime and the woman working, chores, cooking, cleaning, school runs, the lead in children situations, paying the bills, doing shopping. That those women actually feel like they're looking after 3 kids rather than having a supportive partner and two kids.

So in some aspects yeah it's changed but for the better, and in many aspects there simply haven't been anough time to have a change and in many more aspects it's changed for the worse. But due to being in the middle phase of transition rather than at the end or beginning.

Apple1996 · Answer

Yeah cause women started wanting more than the bare minimum from men. It's a good thing

LaFemmeFatale_1 · Answer

I think women haven’t changed either.

SakuraBlossoms87 · Answer

@coachtanthony So you're saying men have always wanted whores, sluts, tramps, prostitutes, etc?  An honest question from a woman who never slept around, dresses respectfully, etc.  Because if you go out & look around most men are chasing overly "attractive" women who dress and act like a prostitute, who sleep around, have no loyalty, etc. If majority of men didn't pursue such, such women wouldn't act like they do. Simple cause & effect something we're all taught in high school. In the real life The cause is - men want sluts - and the effect is - women become sluts.

KingAnon · Answer

Women want the same things they always have from men, except now they want a lot more. Apart from wanting men to provide and protect and fix things and be good in bed, they also want men to attentive to their every emotional need, be extraordinarily sensitive and extraordinarily attentive. They require that the man make her the absolute center of his universe above everyone else including his friends and immediate family. Feminism has taught them that they are very special creatures worthy of only the most colossal of efforts from men and anything short of that is unsatisfactory. Just read the shit that they post on their social media pages about what they expect from a relationship. You'd have an easier time trying dig to the center of the earth with a teaspoon than trying to meet those expectations.

Asking men to be overly-emotional and overly-sensitive all of the time is dumb. Men are not women. They do not have female qualities at large. Most men rarely ever cry or reveal their deeper thoughts. And about the only people men make the center of their universe is their children. Only a man's child is capable of inspiring that kind of unconditional emotional connection out of him. Good men that is as I understand there's a lot of deadbeats kicking around. But women these days want simps and cucks and fragile little men who take no initiative and who quiver before her every demand and race to fulfill her every need, want, desire, and impulse pleasure and be grateful for the privilege of doing so. And what does she offer in return? Fucking nothing as far as I can tell except headaches.

Fuck all that, especially at my age.

smilelots · Answer

I’m not sure it’s women that expect more from men I think we as men expect more from us as society has changed in the way we look at things my stepfather never ever help my stepmother with the dishes with cooking with house work, but I grew up doing that stuff and always help my wife with all of those things and my mother-in-law thought that was amazing because it wasn’t something that she had seen before because that’s just the way it was fathers work mom stayed at home looked after children in the house, and now those roles can be reversed or both people working and both people looking after their family in the household chores the way it should be we should always try and help as much as we can do the things that we can so that others don’t have to do it all

whirled_up_girl · Answer

Yeah I think that's true. I think that's mainly because of the increased financial needs for families. I don't think we can just blame feminism for why women now want to have careers even if they are married with kids. In today's economy it almost seem like a necessity to have both parents working at good jobs so raising children and doing housework is going to need to be divided differently than in the past when more women stayed home. I also think some men are still looking to settle down and have a family. I was a woman who wanted that at a certain point in life and now it doesn't seem like that's going to happen so my expectations in what look for in men has changed than what it was in my 20s.

PragmaticProfit · Answer

Economically speaking, there was a time in America when a man's income was adequate to sustain his entire family. This facilitated women to stay at home, infusing their unique feminine touch to the household. However, when women assume roles traditionally held by men, it can influence their demeanor over time. For a married man, it should be a primary goal to support his wife in staying at home, if she chooses. This ensures her happiness. Providing her with an allowance for leisurely pursuits and ensuring she's central to the children is key. It's vital to value and treasure her femininity, for neglect of this can lead to resentment in the relationship.

msc545 · Answer

I think this is quite true. Men want the same usual things from women that they always have and they rarely get them if ever. Women on the other hand, what increasing amounts of money and height and appearance in anything else that can think of for men and won't settle for less. The net result of this is that statistically women find 80% of men unattractive. Women also are getting married and getting what they want less and less as time goes by and they increase their standards to the point where nobody can meet them.

normalice · Answer

Disagree. The standard of beauty is constantly changing for women. I suppose it is true that men generally don't care too much about the standard of beauty so much as their own personal definition, but I suspect if any man today was sent back 100 years to all the mouths full of cavities and rags people wore, they would find it unattractive.

But that's just physical and assumes men are only interested in looks. Young men, maybe, but as one gets older one wants a social/psychological companion. And that standard has greatly changed.

Anonymous · Answer

I think in essence women are still seeking for the same things from men (like security, protection, etc) but some women are content with not having a man bcs they can provide the things that they’re looking for in a man themself. I came from a traditional background so I still believe in gender roles but I’m also not opposed to the traditional gender specific roles crossing over in certain circumstances.

Anonymous · Answer

We live in an equal society. On average, younger women make more money than men, but they tend to give it up when they get married. They want to be treated equally but have a traditional relationship that simply isn’t possible today. They need to contribute more financially to the marriage. If they can split the chores evenly they should split the rent evenly as well.

genericname85 · Answer

fundamentally i would say that both sides had to change what they can expect from a relationship. because due to economic developments, the single breadwinner model has been invalidated for the overwhelming majority of people at least in western societies. the average male worker can not generate enough income to live a life with all modern comforts.

RingOfFire · Answer

I don't think millions of years of evolution has been reversed in a few decades.

I think men and women want what they have always wanted from each other. Men want a physically attractive nurturing, gentle woman who enjoys her motherhood role and women want a strong, powerful man to protect and provide for the family.

The only thing that has changed in this fraction of a second on the evolutionary time clock is that both genders are confused about their natural roles based on their physiological natural design stemming from a purposeful attempt to pervert their minds to forward a nefarious leftist political agenda.

AmyHew1tt · Answer

Women have only changed in so much as they can want now, not just need. Like, technically, hundreds of years ago, unless you were one of those women who had a good job, you couldn't afford to want, or really have preferences. It was find whatever dude will marry you before you're 'leftovers' and bring home a cheque.

I think women have always wanted more than that, but now we live in a time where we actually can be open about that.

Anonymous · Answer

Nice chicken and egg question coach. 😆

Men seek out women for the same reason the have for the past 2000 years. But women over the past few generations simply do not NEED men now for the same reasons. Men will still tend to the maintaining of society regardless. Ergo women will benefit from this regardless. But women no longer have 2 choices 1. Housewife 2. Spinster. Which means a man's role is ONLY what a woman says it is to her now.

I don't get why women are responding to you with hostility on here. I'm cool with the fact women are this way now. Doesn't change my life any.😆

Charliefretz329 · Answer

Many women want to be a stay at home wife and not actually do any work at all. And expect their man to work 12+ hour days 7 days a week for $65 an hour but drop the kids off at school and pick them up and cool dinner and wash the laundry, do the dishes, mow the yard, fix the car, coach Billy’s soccer team and Linda’s ballet class while getting every weekend off and looking like a complete sculpted Demi-god. Also taking 5-2 week vacations a year and being allowed to have a lover on the side while she never has to do the nasty with her husband.

Or a slight variation of the above

Men still want a pretty lady to appreciate them, help out around the house, and lay down and get filled like a Twinkie. Oh and have a decent demeanor and not scream a lot… other than when she’s getting filled like the above dessert cake.

So yes.

provokeesmokee · Answer

I think most men have changed what their counterparts in the 1950s were looking for.

They've become much better men than their grandfathers or great-grandfathers. Not entirely their own faults. The 1950s fucking sucked.

Billlewis · Answer

Oh, I think that's absolutely true. That's why only about 20% of the male population is having sex with women anymore.

Anonymous · Answer

Agree. Men are still expected to fullfill the same traditional gender roles they always have, and also many the the rolse that were traditionally female gender roles. Women changed the rules and just expected men to still willingly play the game. Many men are saying fuck that. It's why men are more interested in casual sex and less interested in marriage than ever before.

Still-alive · Answer

I think its more like its socially more acceptable for women to fully express what they honestly want with men without being devalued, beaten up or in some cases killed for it. read up on the history of women and you'll get it.

A lot of incel and mgtow types still try to though but for the most part women are able to say what they want with no serious repercussions for it. There's still some work to do though.

LazerBean · Answer

I think little has changed about what men and women want from each other. The change is mostly on what they themselves actually have to offer.

blueonblack22 · Answer

Sympathetic men enabled feminism. The gender “equality” we see today wouldn’t of ever of happened if it was for men allowing it happen.

Think hard about that above. Men did not start feminism but enough men got behind it and allowed to support what women “say they want”.

ta-ra · Answer

I disagree.

I think both, men and woman have changed dramatically with their ideology of what they want. Some if the cores values have remained intact but a lot if new things have made the list on both sides.

It's why a lot of young people are failing with relationships in my opinion

ManOnFire · Answer

Yes and no. Men still want the same things they want in women as they have for millenia - food, sex, mommy love, care, etc. Women too want the same things in men they always wanted - sex, money, protection/provision, romance, etc. I think a lot of women complain about what they expect from a man, yet chose him as they knew him to be from the beginning, and  expecting  him to change. This does not work.

DizzyDesii · Answer

I would say I expect less. So my expectations technically didn't change. I just realized what a lot of guys still have yet to meet, so i hid a few in my list. They’re not obsolete

DreamLife7 · Answer

Women haven't changed but men have. Women want a man who us a breadwinner and masculine. Men today want to be women.

DextroShade · Answer

Women have always wanted men who taller, stronger, and had more resources than them, but nowadays most of them are extremely entitled and expect a man in the top 1% while they themselves offer nothing outside their bodies, which have usually been used by dozens of other men already.

goaded · Answer

Strongly disagree. Men used to take it for granted that they basically owned their wives. Feminism changed that, and men changed with it.

MzAsh · Answer

Agree, as they should have.

nastyb · Answer

men complain that women are no longer housewives... but these men are the same guys who aren't adequate breadwinners.

men who don't know how to be adequate breadwinners should not have the right to demand housewives...

Vegasrunner · Answer

100% Accurate. in my opinion there's only one demo in the world that doesn't understand this and that's 1st world country women 18- 24.

rgii55447 · Answer

I can only speak for myself, but what I truly want is companionship and somebody to call my equal.

RainbowMarinade · Answer

Yeah, in a general sense, I think so.  Men still want own their women, and women have decided they don’t want to be owned. 🤷‍♀️

Anonymous · Answer

I would hope everyone has changed, it is not the 1950s anymore.

Luopio27 · Answer

I believe everyone wants the best and those who can't get it, settle for less. Settling for less or staying in your league is not a choice, its a lack of options.

Unit1 · Answer

Debatable. Some things women want from us didn't change. Like being faithful. Some things can seem relatively new. Like wanting to be posted on social media.

Notfrommars · Answer

I don't know, many men have told me I’m too traditional and old fashioned 😅

AnusNdaPainus · Answer

my predictions before reading the replies: None of the women will tell the truth they are gonna read this and respond based off how this made them feel.

DermalPunch · Answer

I think men overall value women way less. I think both genders are to blame.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Both men and women on general sense are both 💩 so it doesn't matter what has changed or what men and women want as humans are never happy.  Humans suck and will always suck.

SUMAIREBRAHIM · Answer

No women have become delusional now and they say men became insecure and girls are expecting more bs  They will be 4'2 n expect 6' guy and thinking they deserve it

lorenzomichael · Answer

Guys just want to fuck everything. And girls just want money. That's the truth

Anonymous · Answer

Yeah keep telling yourself that buddy and stay lonely

Anonymous · Answer

men have always been interested in 2 things. Boobs and butt. Nothing else.

Dargil · Answer

Entirely agree. Ask any man older than 30.

ChefPapiChulo · Answer

Sounds more like word salad to me.

grega239 · Answer

And the backlash is already visible

Tstrbrainer · Answer

Some have changed, some have not

TonyMetal___86 · Answer

Thanks to feminism

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