
Do you think that Men need more attitudes just like women?


No and yes.
Women are pretty relentless self promoters. A modest woman might rate herself an 8 or 9. I don't know if women rating themselves in youtube channels are just stooges helping the channel out but some seem quite genuine. Like a fairly obese woman with three children (diff fathers) who was convinced she merited a guy earning 500k up. When it was pointed out men might want a more slender body and no children attached she talked over every body and argued it was belief in yourself and if you believed you would get it. Seemed genuinely unrealistic. There was another woman who believed she should be a major company CEO with no track record.
One of the more laughable ones is the number of women who say they are smart. There are far too many really smart women than can be supported by the bell shaped IQ curve.
No, attitudes like this are not helpful for men to adopt.
I do think standards and gravitas are important for men to adopt. Standards in what bar you expect women to meet and not accepting less. Gravitas in the roman sense of weight, dignity, restraint and moral rigor. They are the qualities that make us age well like fine wine and we would all have been better to have started aging earlier.
So yes in the sense of gravitas.
A man that is with a woman that is more in her masculine, would, in my opinion, be less happy in the relationship.
He knows that he is a man, and what is expected of one. If he can’t pull it off, it is quite demoralizing.
A man needs to be the masculine one. The female needs to be the feminine one. That is just how evolution worked it out.
For a masculine man to be with a more masculine woman, that to would be a tough relationship.
Most working women must show up wearing her best, tailored, masculine suits in order to compete with and have to bitch up so she can “handle” her male coworkers.
Not many women want to go home to her children still in that mindset. If her man is emotionally insecure, not only does the wife have to nut up, so to speak, to deal with her husband, she also has to play the part of mean old daddy.
Evolution determined that women are to nurture.
So if a real man wants a nurturing woman, he must first make her feel safe. He needs to demonstrate that he can protect her and their offspring.
the providing is nice but at what cost for the woman? to do sexual live show for you? or maybe be fine that yoy are an iption along with your own relatives abd sisters. what if i don't like it? can't men be just charitable
Nah! Just remain the way you are - submissive, compliant, and willing to hand over your cash. White knight simps rule!
Now hand over your money.
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I strongly disagree with you. As a Christian, I look to the Bible for wisdom and strive to model my behavior after Jesus Christ. The Bible portrays Jesus with both high and low Christology, demonstrating both his divinity and his humanity. This gives us a complete picture of authority, fear, and love. By embodying a life of servitude and sacrificial love, Jesus serves as an example for us to follow. Unfortunately, many modern men have abandoned this path in favor of serving their own selfish desires. It is our duty as men to protect women, who are considered the weaker vessel. While women may sometimes burden us or even sin against us, it is our responsibility to be self-sacrificial and chivalrous in all circumstances, even when facing adversity. I live a life of servitude to my wife and community by providing financial support and spiritual guidance to my family. As men, we are built to handle these responsibilities and are to live our lives in this manner. If you compare a 35-year-old married man with children to a 35-year-old single man who only lives for himself, you will see a clear contrast in their character. It's weak to abandon this quests due to fleeting emotions. If my wife isn't appreciating me, then I'll still do everything I need to do. She relies on that consistency and needs that stability.
Here's the truth: if you fulfill your role as a man according to your beliefs, your wife will naturally choose to submit to you and trust you for guidance. As she feels secure and protected in your presence, she will open up and share more with you. In contrast, women who are constantly irritable and difficult to deal with are often a reflection of their partner's instability.
If that so, the failure rate between ability of men will be increases, bacause according to science only 1% of men are successful & 99% are are failures.
So there will be more men who are failure and loses their values.
Also the competition rate will be increases as well.
I would say its rather a strong & ideal point to use our intelligence in a different way.
What you are saying above, if it's ideal then the violence will increase, not the Peace.
We could have changed this system earlier, but we followed the script blindly throughout the decades
What do you mean when you say only 1% of men are successful while 99% are failures? By many standards, I consider myself successful, yet I don't believe I belong to the 1%. Perhaps I can draw a parallel as I think society places too much emphasis on sex in relationships, with women traditionally being the gatekeepers. This creates a potentially harmful shift in dynamics. The way men can combat this is by refraining from engaging in a promiscuous culture. I believe that giving up on your masculine journey when faced with difficulties shows a lack of strength. This pattern is cyclical.
Men have consistently engaged in competition amongst themselves, and there is nothing inherently wrong with that.
Well, the muculinity is not only about looking after women.
Imagine i'm engaging in a competition where i become the winner & those people who are helped me in between the process, are homeless, no cash in their wallets, not getting girls, they don't have same the values what i have right now.
In that scenario some people will thank them & retain their winning position
Also some people will give them the same values which they received.
But what we are doing, we are providing values & things to women just to make them happy.
The person who has the leverage has the power. Don't give away your power to them. They almost always don't deserve it. If you aren't the priority of your own life, you lost. People don't care about you, they care about the value you can provide. Providing isn't just money. Kindness is a product I'm selling. Good looking I'm selling. Money I'm selling. Wisdom I'm selling. Commitment I'm selling. I'm selling so much. The person who has the most to sell has all the leverage because they don't need anything. I have what everyone wants.
We can take aspects from them and choose how to apply it to ourselves, but we should not 100% copy them. When it comes to dating, I took the aspect from them that they hardly chase men and won't just sleep with any guy.
I do not mean this in a self-aggrandizing way, but apart of the reason why I've had a good amount of girls like me is that I am unavailable. For me, I do not just chase any girl that gives me an ounce of attention even if she's attractive, but I keep to a set of standards. I need to like her as an individual and have chemistry - see her as a potential compatible partner.
Agreed. Especially concerning sex and porn some guys easily to be fooled and are ready to lose their social life for a woman.
I think that some guys would also be better at dating if they had a better working social life and had something they could offer a woman besides money.
The problem I see in myself and other guys is that we lack a discipline of working hard since many of us live in a world where they don´t have to fight for life but could get anything delivered to them.
It´s especially easy today to let yourself get fooled by supposed perfection of other people´s life and give up.
But noneless I agree guys run quickly in a relationship and instead should work on creating a life of meaning for themselves first.
Kind of sounds like it’s you who feels inferior in some way , or that you don’t know your value. Your not subscribing to this involuntary celebate nonsense are you? . I think you need to work on yourself , carving your groove in life and being successful and man-up
I know my values as well as our social system, but i'm willingly want to be in that way, because i do believe that attitude gains our values & attractions for both, men & women.
I feel men are so easy to get for women, because we cannot control our sexuality, & we are impressed very easily by looking at women's beauty, personality etc etc...
I feel we need to change.
And yet again your speaking of yourself , in your society and in your future. I do not put my value to women first i focus on being my best self , pushing and challenging myself whilst trying to grow myself. I think your in danger of looking at social media and believing that this tiny minority of women chasing that impossible man represents all women , measuring yourself against that you will always be less than and you will become Hateful. Focus on you and being your success and women will seek you !
I think we need to recognize bullshit and avoid it. This means women's bullshit as well as the legal system that only seeks to take advantage of us even more than a greedy woman.
Learn to recognize it and learn how to avoid it.
Shit like marriage is just the dumbest shit ever at this point. You'll get nothing out of that deal, but she has a lot to gain.
You just have to find the right woman who actually cares about you and you can trust. There's too many desperate guys who want to make themselves believe this girl is into them when she gives them the smallest amount of attention or affection and that's the problem they get used. But if it's the right woman there's nothing wrong with being protective and making things easier for her. Dating/relationships are really hard so everyone will make mistakes I think.
Not "attitude". I think more men need to realize they're MEN. A MAN does not tolerate trilfiling women. Too many men act like women are a real rare element in short supply, and they're not. I mean, good women are in short supply. But they tell you who they are by thier actions. I don't think most men today know how to tell the difference today.
No, it’s the man job to provide material things, and the woman’s job to keep a comfortable home, to cook delicious meals and to keep herself looking beautiful and sexy for him.
I get a nice home to live in, good food to eat, and a beautiful girl to take out or to stay in and cuddle up with, and sleep next to every night. That’s a fair trade in my opinion and I’m happy with it.
I DON'T think that Men need more attitudes.
As Popeye said: "I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam."
The ultimate statement of self-sufficiency, self-existence, and presence, not contingent upon anyone else. Being present, and completely capable to do and accomplish whatever they want.
I think we need to be REAL men: honest, hardworking, caring and loving. And DON'T waste time playing mindgames.
I can't bear when English is butchered like that because I love it. This question caused me a lot of inconvenience. In my opinion, better education is needed instead of uncooperative behaviour.
That's not a valid excuse in my opinion.
wrong approach, its not attitude ita fortitude, called having reaolve, what your willing to stand for, morals, not being a push over, people who can't control you call it attitude
it'll have be an entire group effort from the male population to achieve this
too bad the simps and white knights will refuse to do this
If men had attitude it would be women who would be chasing us
While what you're saying is true in some sense, you need to understand men and women are different in terms of responsibilities.
I think intelligence, values, respect and love are co-related. Human beings were designed to be social beings, we can't live without love, on the other hand we can't live without values and respect too. In order to have a successful life you need to have balance.
But I'll also say that everything has a specific time to do. For me I'll say love life comes after you have achieved financial success in your twenties
While you are trying to balance things you would ended up with disbalance conclusion, because as you said your love life comes after my financial success, first of all tell you one thing that love is not something that you needs to compete for it, if i approve your thought then that is not love, that is a value & respect, which creates competition again, therefore you cannot balance, i am not talking about individual perspective i am talking about for everyone, because some of them has to be the loser if you follow the bloody ancient patern over and over
Men has always had attitude, its just not emotional. It's more like a rule enforcement.
If so than build more prisons! You really think a man keying a chicks car would just end at that? That's cops, local media, CNN might get involved.
Stop reading incel nonsense online. It is not healthy.
Yes, too many guys fall all over themselves over every pretty face or body that comes along and lose themselves over it.
The fuck are you talking about?
Not in our generation , men should be masculine.
Maybe sometimes.
She needs attitude to impress me...
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