Do you believe that America needs to have an anti-feminist movement? Do you think it's a great idea?

[sage2021]

I have spoken with several male members on this website about it and they think it is a great idea 💡

I think we need to have this movement because there are plenty of women who don't hate men and think they all should die.
Some of us LOVE men and I am one of them. I cannot stand to hear from these weaponized feminists anymore about bashing men.
There are a lot of men that would love to fall in love and have a woman who loves them back.
These men also want to be Dad's and have a family of their own. And a loving home 🏠
But they just can't find a woman who wants the same thing as they do.
This is a big problem not only in America but in other countries as well due to the brainwashing on social media sites.
There are women that desire to be homemakers and we need to hear from them because they should be made to feel proud of being a homemaker and having a family of their own❣️

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This movement would include men as well as women.

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When I said that men would be included as well, I was picturing the man being with his homemaker wife and speaking up about the problem.

[Summeroflove]

It’s annoying because most feminists are very one sided. They don’t really care about anyone other then themselves. They can do the bare minimum. Get hired when they aren’t qualified. Fuckup all the time and bitch when they get in trouble or don’t get promoted.

It also hurts the competent women severely. Especially crying wolf about sexual harassment when nothing sexual was done they just have their heads shoved in the gutter to think everything’s sexual.

Formerly feminists used to be for equal rights. Rights to work. Rights to vote rights etc. Which I do agree with. But it’s equal opportunity not special ones. As well as the whole killing your baby.

It’s the whole I’m a proud slut but don’t objectify women. When they’re the exact women contributing to that problem. I agree men shouldn’t be perverts but I also agree women shouldn’t be either.

Making false rape accusations is disgusting to destroy someone’s life because you’re ashamed you slept with them. It also hurts real victims of rape. The same as how crying wolf on sexual harassment and sex discrimination hurts real victims of it.

Being a homemaker is fine if that’s what she chooses but that’s another story.

I will say that most women aren’t bad. It’s a small percentage of women who have these delusions of grader to think they speak for all women. When in reality they speak for a small fraction.

Feminists when it comes to relationships want all the benefits of traditionalism. They still want to hold men to the same traditional standards just not themselves. That’s a whole other double standards rant.

It’s women who don’t want men to be fat phobic. But also shame men for being short. They are women who don’t want to be judged for their sex life but shame men for theirs. They’re women who want to be treated like a queen but not treat him as a king. They want the man to pay for all the dates. But expecting her to do anything with the traditional feminine role is sexist.

Do you see? They’re mostly narcissists

[sage2021]

@Summeroflove
I have talked to men on this website about this and I can hear their sadness through their words telling me how much they want to find a good woman and have a family of their own, but time and time again what I am hearing them saying is that no such women who want the same thing don't exist out there.
I have witnessed the women's gangs (I don't consider them as groups, I mean let's call it like it is) that HATE men and want to poison them and think all men should be dead!
Perhaps there are more femanatzi types of women than we all realize, because if it wasn't true, we wouldn't be seeing and hearing it from the men as much as we do.
And it seems that there are different women's gangs popping up in other countries as well.
That's why I refer to them as cookie cutter women because they all go on social sites and learn this crap from each other then they become like all the other cookies in the bag. 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪

[Summeroflove]

It’s toxic cults for sure but these people also stab one another in the bag. Yes shitty people are common and there is a lot of shitty men as well out there.

But I agree finding the right person takes them

[Summeroflove]

*time

[sage2021]

@Summeroflove
Time is part of the problem. They may have all the time in their lifetime to find a woman to love and will love them back but at what age would that happen? The men that I have spoken with are usually pushing 40. And because they want to become Dad's, they would have to find a woman who is still in her child bearing years right?
A woman's clock ⏰ is ticking and will only tick for so many years until the bell 🔔 on her clock rings and says "Sorry, times up for you"!! No babies. 😔
You can argue the fact that women who get pregnant past the age of 35 increase the chances of the baby coming into the world with birth defects. And if she's just starting her family at age 35 and wants more than one child - guess what? She will be even older then and the chances of birth defects increases with her age.

Autism is on the rise in America. There are more and more children born with autism than ever before and that's not funny!!

[Summeroflove]

I get what you’re saying but it is better to be alone then with someone you’re miserable with. Even if that means being single or childless. Some people maybe it isn’t Gods plan for them.

But a lot of people date and marry for the wrong reasons. Which leads to absolute misery for both persons.

[sage2021]

@Summeroflove
I agree 💯👍🏼 that's why I have been single for most of my life 🙂

[Summeroflove]

Yeah it takes time and prayer. You see people that everyone was jealous of at one point and then you see the divorce later in life.

People who got married too fast to the wrong person.

[sage2021]

@Summeroflove
I would have to say that it probably wasn't God's plan for me.

[Summeroflove]

I don’t know God’s plan for anybody. I just know that people need to be careful

[molonski2]

Yes , naturally its a very good idea , there certainly needs to be a platform to stand up against some of the nonsense being peddled around.

[HawkPerception]

Absolutely does. Canada as well. There are people that are actively fighting against it, but there aren't as many women as men speaking on the matter.

TheLadyJ on Instagram is an excellent influencer.
Jedediahbila as well.

Women tend to ignore men that talk on the matter and label them as misogynistic. But if the words come from a fellow woman, they're better received. I would highly encourage any women to take an active role in voicing their opinions on the matter of they are anti-modern-feminists.

And I stick to what I told you earlier. I would love if you started speaking on the matter on social media like TikTok especially. I'd definitely follow you!

[Dongie]

Are you from Canada Hawk?

[HawkPerception]

Yessir!

[Dongie]

East, west?

[Dongie]

Maybe Nova Scotia?

[HawkPerception]

Ontario

[Dongie]

Is it nice and scenic?

[HawkPerception]

Some rural parts, yeah. Just a typical in city in Toronto. Not a fan of city life. Pretty trashy and overpriced as hell

[Dongie]

Oh, I thought Toronto was a pretty Skippy place. Big city, tho. Y'all have a basketball team, baseball team, and hockey team.

[Friendlybro79]

I'm so confused to hear about these women that apparently hate all men and wish they would all die. In 45 years I have never met a woman like this in real life. I see nonsense online but who knows who is writing it and how little these folks represent the entire population. I don't know what to say around the feminism movement because I don't see women petitioning the streets in real life, or large gangs of women making a ruckus over these things. I think the women you're talking about must represent a very very small percentage of women. Just my view.

[sage2021]

@Friendlybro79
If course you don't see them on the streets praising the feminist movement because it's all done online on social media sites.

[Friendlybro79]

So who cares that isn't real life. What we see online are trolls not real people acting in good faith. Sure some of them fit the mold you describe but what really matters is real life encounters. This is not really happening in real life and I work with 20 yr old gen Zers that are sick of being labeled everything bad in the world. I don't blame them for being frustrated

[MrOracle]

If you're not seeing it in real life, you haven't been paying attention. Where do you think the whole DEI/Woke/Identity Politics came from? Maybe you've been fortunate not to be looking for a job and told that they just aren't hiring men right now, even though you're more qualified and experienced. Maybe you've not been sent to sensitivity training, and DEI training, and haven't been taught that you are a sexist, racist bigot with male privilege and there's nothing you can do about it but move aside and let some women take your place. But lots and lots and LOTS of men have personal experience with this.

Almost everyone I know in the professional world has had to put up with these cult indoctrinations at work, and many have had to change careers because they were pushed aside to make room for (less qualified and experienced) women simply because they were men, and because women ran HR and dictated policy.

This is just one of many examples, but it's absolutely very real and it's far more widespread than you imagine. And I bet you'd be shocked by what some of those female friends of yours are saying on TikTok, even if they don't say it to your face. Don't be so naïve and just dismiss it out of hand.

[Friendlybro79]

@MrOracle I don't care what people put on tik Tok and that isn't all women. There are men that say crazy shit online too and it's not all men. I'm not discounting some truth to it but it doesn't effect people as much as they say it does.

Get off social media and looking at accounts of people you don't like. Lol. I don't use social media unless this counts as social media. But I mean none of the traditional ones. They're shit and just upset people and allow you to have confirmation bias because you can search for it. Then the algorithms get a grip of what you search and feed it to you even more making a small percentage of people look like the majority.

[MrOracle]

I'm not on TikTok, but do you know who is? 95% of women under 50. Most can't live without it, and a whole lot of them are being taught social attitudes by TikTok. THAT is why you can't just dismiss it. It seeps into everything.

[Friendlybro79]

I dunno man. Focus online and rot your brain or get out in the real world and just be nice to people. It works out for me most times. Of course you run into egg heads but that's always been true.

[Friendlybro79]

Not saying you personally but people who get stuck on these anecdotal experiences through the internet

[AManOnTheWeb]

No, I consider myself a feminist. I believe that women should be treated equally.

That doesn't mean that men aren't falling behind in some areas and need better support (like higher education and family law) but the fantasy of tradwives and handmaids from right winger manosphere losers is psychotic. I have a wife, a mother, a sister (with a PhD) and nieces. I have cousins and plenty of female friends. I want them all to have the same opportunities as men. Full Stop.

[MrOracle]

Feminism has nothing to do with equality. There's a reason they use the term Feminism instead of equality - Gloria Steinman made it very clear that Feminism was NOT about equality. Dworkin has been even more explicit about how "women need to be in charge." Don't keep your head in the sand. Feminism is about power, not equality. It's about women having all the power and none of the responsibility.

[AManOnTheWeb]

@MrOracle Feminism: [ fem-uh-niz-uhm ] Noun
1. The doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men.
2. (sometimes initial capital letter) an organized movement for the attainment of such rights for women.

So that makes you a feminist too, now that we cleared that up?

[sage2021]

@AManOnTheWeb
I agreed that women should have the right to vote; and equal pay for the same work that a man does. These made sense.
But now what exactly is it that they want that men have and women don't have? Because no one seems to know 🤷🏼‍♀️
And if you don't answer with specifics, then I will just believe that they and you are just blowing smoke.
Men and women both get the education they desire already.

[AManOnTheWeb]

@sage2021 Women don't have equal representation in the legislature/executive/judicial branches. Women are way more likely to be victims of domestic abuse. Women are losing autonomy over their reproductive healthcare decisions Women face discrimination in hiring, especially when factoring in the intersectionality of race.

Traditional female careers tend to pay worse than careers that are less traditionally female and there are barriers to entry, especially in the tech world. Remember that in the early days of the computer, nearly every programmer was a woman. And then the men returned home from the war and the women were all fired and replaced by men, to the point that there are ripples from these decisions from decades past that are still very much influencing the trends we see today.

[sage2021]

@AManOnTheWeb
I tend to agree with MrOracle

[sage2021]

@AManOnTheWeb
All you see are black judges trying to hang Trump out to dry.
I see the legislature and most of them are women anymore and the same thing with politicians! You don't know what you are talking about in real life!

[AManOnTheWeb]

@sage2021 "I see the legislature and most of them are women anymore and the same thing with politicians! You don't know what you are talking about in real life!"

Well this is an excellent opportunity to improve yourself and try to understand how you came to be so misinformed. There are 3 male senators for every female senator. And congress is only slightly better at 28.4% women even though women make up 50.4% of the overall population. How is it you're so provably wrong on this? Is it because you're consuming media that's misinforming you?

[sage2021]

@AManOnTheWen
Nope! I don't go on social media sites just GaG

[AManOnTheWeb]

@sage2021 Your news media perhaps? I know Fox News viewers were shown to be less informed than people who don't watch the news at all. Maybe that's what's misinforming you?

[Kaneki05]

Totally! We should make women not be able to vote or speak or wear revealing clothes, and not give them jobs. And if the woman is older or already done their life of giving birth and raised a child we should rid of them cause at that point they become useless.

Sounds great. (Sarcasm be noted)

[Ariesman81]

There is already one in place. It's called Red Pill and Passport Bros. Manosphere if you'd like. Feminism is a self correcting problem.

All I can say is be honest with your experiences. The truth will resonate with people ready to hear it.

As far as reaching the younger generation, I don't know how to do that. I believe it simply boils down to how they were raised.

[sage2021]

@Ariesman81

I've never heard of that.
I guess I am thinking on a larger scale like about as many women as are feminists.

[Anonymous]

We don't need to have a counter movement, just an effort to reverse discriminatory laws against men, and to force academia to drop their sexist curriculum against men, if they want continued gov funding. Let people believe what they want, on their own dime.

[IslaTheWitch]

another movement that will add hatred to the society... no... I don't think it's so great idea...

[Anonymous]

Yes, in any society checks and balances are needed to keep things fair and just. When it comes to gender issues there have been no checks and balances in the West. Feminism has been sowing the seeds of sexism and division unchecked for decades, and they have gotten particularly out of control in recent years.

What is needed is a FAIR AND BALANCED gender dialog in the West that is supported by the government and media. We have no such thig today, and that's ben doing a lot of harm.

[SixFootSexy]

Without birth control, what we know as feminism would vanish within a generation. Yeah you'd still have female voters perhaps, but the rest of the toxicity would eventually weed itself out.

[bolverk]

No, there is NO need for an anti-feminist movement, as the Feminists are creating a Resistance Movement to them by their own attitudes and actions,

[Anonymous]

Feminism is rooted in Marxism anyway so go ahead and tear it down by any means necessary.

[CB-Raido-Time]

Feminism was born from the synagogue of satan literally.

[Opinion Owner]

@CB-Raido-Time Yep.

[HungTexan]

I have no problem with feminists.

[Dongie]

Why not! It may pull a few from the fire.

[Crazzyyworld]

It’s a Dracula thing