At what point of being in the friendzone, does trying to make it a relationship become pathetic?

At what point of being in the friendzone, does trying to make it a relationship become pathetic?

A lot of people believe that being in the friendzone with someone you ACTUALLY want to be in a relationship with is a completely lost cause, but so many people have also said, they started as friends, or s/he had a boy/girlfriend at first, but they broke up and it turned into a lasting relationship.

So really, where is the point in which YOU, as the person who actively is looking and trying to be in a relationship with the other person, considers it a lost cost not worth going after anymore? Or do you feel as long as you are single, there is hope?

At what point of being in the friendzone, does trying to make it a relationship become pathetic?
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