Look you don't see animals doing that shit, and we supposed to be smarter than them. But if you're a guy and you want to suck a dick that's on you. You shouldn't worry what the Bible says. You should worry what your mother is going to think.
Completely opposite. What does your mother have with anything of private life of yours when you grow up? Even Bible says parents will betray a child but a true believer will not be betrayed by God. Jesus also said to call no one on this earth his father, for there is only one Father, and that one is in Heaven.
Well that's the problem. There's no way to know whether it's true or not yet you act as if you are certain the Bible contains the word of God when, being that it was written by men, it almost certainly is not.
According to the Bibble didn't he also made animals? Well they do engage in homosexual acts often. That aside... Who the hell cares about what the bible says?
@pterodon Leviticus is the mosaic law or the law of Moses. The law said, sex outside of marriage is punishable by death. Marriage was between a man and a woman.
This meant in practice, no homosexual behaviour, no sex outside of wedlock, no sex with animals etc. etc..
The unmarried heterosexual sex you find in the Old Testament, doesn't have the consent of God and is contrary to his laws.
I do not know why so many people have a hard time distinguishing between, description of what happens and condoning what happened.
If a writer, writes a book about the holocaust stating what happened, does it makes him a Nazi then? Of course not, in the same manner, God doesn't approve of all the things done as described in the Old Testament just because he wanted it documents for us to read. It is an absurd idea.
There are lots of things.. for instance women should be quiet and obey their husband and men will go to hell if he have sex putter marriage. So who will go to heaven? No one
If you want to become a gay, then go ahead don't make no judgement and the fact is women are all about money. They think of relationship as a business. If they are against LGBT meaning that they don't want to be treatened from their business district
I agree with the concept of what you are saying, but I am noticing some flawed presuppositions in your claims (though these are representative of Western religion as a whole).
@tstrbrainer I am an expert theologian, and know the Bible very well, as I do church history.
However, I do not like to state qualifications as I am opposed to assertion through authority. Nonetheless, theologians, in general, are very bias, so being one doesn't prove mutch.
Let the facts speak for themselves, and study with an open mind.
@ChefPapiChulo "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."-John 7:24..."Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy."-Proverbs 31:9..."“You shall do no injustice in judgment. You shall not be partial to the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty. In righteousness you shall judge your neighbor."-Leviticus 19:15..."For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."-1 Corinthians 5:12-13... In other words you can judge through conviction but not through condemnation. Often people misquote the bible thinking they can do whatever they want but "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."-Galatians 6:7
@ChefPapiChulo As @Dingismaximus just said. The Bible does not say, do not judge. But rather, how to judge, went to judge and when not to judge, and on what basis to judge.
Big difference.
We all judge all the time anyway, our very survival depends on it, so you do it too. Whenever you disagree with someone based on religion or politics, you judge to some degree.
you're getting confused about what judgment means. i suggest you learn how to read and the meaning of words. Its saying judge their character and actions. It's not talking about condemning them to hell. Thats Gods job.
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Look you don't see animals doing that shit, and we supposed to be smarter than them. But if you're a guy and you want to suck a dick that's on you. You shouldn't worry what the Bible says. You should worry what your mother is going to think.
Completely opposite. What does your mother have with anything of private life of yours when you grow up? Even Bible says parents will betray a child but a true believer will not be betrayed by God. Jesus also said to call no one on this earth his father, for there is only one Father, and that one is in Heaven.
Gays give me the creeps. I don't care what the Bible says. I don't live my life according to what some guy hundreds of years ago thought I should do.
Interesting that you love your faith so much you go Anon… that’s very telling.
It's not that you could punish them if you knew their username
Imagine being so arrogant that you can say with complete conviction that you know what God wants people to do.
I know, because I can read what God had said. So can anyone else, even you.
The words you are reading were written by other men as arrogant as you.
Most of the Bible was written by Paul... a human. To say his are the words of God is arrogant.
If God doesn't exist and the Bible is false then yes, however, I am only talking about what the Bible say , not if it is true or not.
Well that's the problem. There's no way to know whether it's true or not yet you act as if you are certain the Bible contains the word of God when, being that it was written by men, it almost certainly is not.
Whatever, it's your opinion.
I had to check if it was Sunday or Monday sermon time...
Being a homosexual isn't a sin. Gay sex is.
A sin is something you do, not something you are.
Sort of what I said.
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According to the Bibble didn't he also made animals? Well they do engage in homosexual acts often.
That aside... Who the hell cares about what the bible says?
Actually only Paul stated in the confines of marriage. The Old Testament was full of unmarried heterosexual sex
Not by Gods consent, there is a difference between describing the facts and condoning them.
Wrong.
@pterodon How little you know, the law of Moses was clear, and it represented Gods view on marriage.
You typing "wrong", shows your ignorance.
Actually the law was in Leviticus and I don’t remember sex between to adult heterosexuals being a sin unless they were married and fucked someone else
Two.
@pterodon Leviticus is the mosaic law or the law of Moses.
The law said, sex outside of marriage is punishable by death. Marriage was between a man and a woman.
This meant in practice, no homosexual behaviour, no sex outside of wedlock, no sex with animals etc. etc..
The unmarried heterosexual sex you find in the Old Testament, doesn't have the consent of God and is contrary to his laws.
I do not know why so many people have a hard time distinguishing between, description of what happens and condoning what happened.
If a writer, writes a book about the holocaust stating what happened, does it makes him a Nazi then? Of course not, in the same manner, God doesn't approve of all the things done as described in the Old Testament just because he wanted it documents for us to read. It is an absurd idea.
Why are you letting a book written millions of years ago dictate how you think, feel, and live your life
millions... you need to learn some aritmatic.
Obviously I was being sarcastic 🙄 but still the book was written hella long ago so why are you living vicariously through it
It's not a book. But a compilation of books. Between 3500 and 2000 years old.
Tell that to all the pedophile priests and pastors.
Who is also breaking every command in the Bible, they are worse because they pretend to believe in the Bible.
I don't really know but if they're doing their own thing there's no need for you to intrude. Just go about your day
you should probably take that advice in my opinion.
There are lots of things.. for instance women should be quiet and obey their husband and men will go to hell if he have sex putter marriage. So who will go to heaven? No one
Even the thinking of women is a sin. You sure will go to hell
Also you are not supposed use condom or pill. And you cannot have sex before marriage.
You cannot divorce either.
You are fucking hypocrite
If you want to become a gay, then go ahead don't make no judgement and the fact is women are all about money. They think of relationship as a business. If they are against LGBT meaning that they don't want to be treatened from their business district
Masturvation is a sin too, you will go to hell
I agree with the concept of what you are saying, but I am noticing some flawed presuppositions in your claims (though these are representative of Western religion as a whole).
The bible like just any other holy books are backwards, outdated and plain stupid
On a deeper level, even sex between married couples is a sin if love is absent between them.
Based on what scriptur?
No idea. A priest told this to us.
He lied as preast often do.
He's a Catholic priest and what he said makes complete sense.
Christianity is very strict about sex and if you look at any Catholic catechist text, it is stated that sex without love from both sides is a sin
@tstrbrainer It does not matter if something makes sense for you, when it isn't true.
https://youtu.be/oQc39XAjMZ4
Accept it, unless you are an expert in theologist.
@tstrbrainer I am an expert theologian, and know the Bible very well, as I do church history.
However, I do not like to state qualifications as I am opposed to assertion through authority. Nonetheless, theologians, in general, are very bias, so being one doesn't prove mutch.
Let the facts speak for themselves, and study with an open mind.
So you think that sex between a husband and wife is not a sin if there's no love between them?
It says it is a abomination unto God and God never brags on a gay man or couple.
same thing as St. Donald, St. Tucker, St. Rush and St. Janine tell you
What does the Bible say about judging others?
"He who is without sin, cast the first stone"
Actually, the Bible does not say do not judge. But rather, how to judge, went to and when not to judge, and on what basis to judge.
it does say not to judge in Mathews lol.
@ChefPapiChulo "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."-John 7:24..."Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy."-Proverbs 31:9..."“You shall do no injustice in judgment. You shall not be partial to the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty. In righteousness you shall judge your neighbor."-Leviticus 19:15..."For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."-1 Corinthians 5:12-13... In other words you can judge through conviction but not through condemnation. Often people misquote the bible thinking they can do whatever they want but "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."-Galatians 6:7
@ChefPapiChulo As @Dingismaximus just said. The Bible does not say, do not judge. But rather, how to judge, went to judge and when not to judge, and on what basis to judge.
Big difference.
We all judge all the time anyway, our very survival depends on it, so you do it too. Whenever you disagree with someone based on religion or politics, you judge to some degree.
you're getting confused about what judgment means. i suggest you learn how to read and the meaning of words. Its saying judge their character and actions. It's not talking about condemning them to hell. Thats Gods job.
The bible was clear about Jesus' being gay.
You fail to provoke me, but nice try.