Do Christians (especially Catholics) try to push their beliefs on everyone?

[Anonymous]

Kind of creepy especially the preachers. Here in the USA (California) people are usually religious but some in California push it too hard and it feels exclusive.

[btbc92]

It's not about pushing. It is about preaching the gospel because there is a heaven and a hell. God is real, Jesus is real, as angels are real so are demons. We are living in these times where most people are no longer tolerant to any sound doctrine, and that sadly includes parenting and those in authority. This is about saving souls. The problem is with most people, they think they don't need saving, but we all do. For what? Ourselves. We are all capable of evil, capable of murder, lying, stealing, wrongdoing, manipulation, fornication and all kinds of things that God said cannot be in his presence. The things that God made pure and good have been tainted for evil works because of sin nature. It is strange that you say that in California people are usually religious yet they have some of the most beyond laxed laws and morals in the states alone. Sexual consent at 13? Besides other things? Really? That's Christian? Nobody can push anything on you. But how a person maybe called to preach depends on the audience and what their gifting are.

For me, as I am not a preacher. I "preach" to admonish. Meaning to correct. Most people cannot stand CORRECTION. It has nothing to do with "religion" or preaching. We are living in a time of great rebellion and wickedness. For each generation, it gets worse. And most people are becoming more intolerant and lacking desire to know God. That is what happening. Some people are not human. The only problem is that sadly most things being preached today may be taken out of context from the scriptures, which is why you have to read and have a relationship with the Father for yourself. All Christian churches is just another subgroup of Catholicism, which is still not of God. However, the word of God is of truth, and what you overall have been taught in the basics is true. However, this is why there is so many problems because so many people are very confused. I don't like pushing my beliefs on others. I speak the truth when I am called and led to speak. When they are used and led by the spirit, you cannot stop them. Because God is God. He will a child, nature, anything and anyone, even an atheist to speak. The thing is you need discernment because not everybody who preaches on the pulpit is of God. And not everybody who profess a Christian is truly one. That is all I can tell you.

[btbc92]

Why are you calling me an idiot? You got issues. Last I checked it was 13. If they finally upped it to 18, thank God. You did not need to call me an idiot. Please seek help.

[Tyme1313]

Here let me admonish you, your bible is wrong and fake for the most part (something I could spend weeks breaking down, but you are a cult member and wouldn't listen anyway). You are a member of a death cult worshiping a lesser evil demonic war god, one which was beaten in your bibles book of 2 Kings by the Moabite war god Chemosh, showing that your god isn't all powerful. Your concept of sin is a demonic form of propaganda that defies the reality of creation. Your doctrine is unsound hogwash, which is in direct opposition to reality.

[btbc92]

@Tyme1313 The Bible is of truth and if the truth is not in you, then you are ignorant of everything you say. You cannot admonish me. It is the Lord most high God that does. I am not some cult member. I am a Child of God and I know my place in God. My God is more powerful than any of your lesser gods and you have proven not only are you that arrogant but you're in the reprobate state of mind. God is in control. So if you want to be foolish, then be foolish. God laughs at the wicked.

[btbc92]

So think about that before you want to say how I am in a cult because I am not. I am not Catholic. God is God, and he doesn't have to answer to you. He is of life and he is not of death. But if you want to continue to live a life of death, then you do what you want. But I desire life in the spirit of the Lord and desire the things of God. I understand for a good portion how and why God had to do what he had to do. You think wrong is right and right is wrong. You are literally of your father the devil, the father of all lies. The world may change, but my God, the creator of all living things who also created YOU, and allowed your soul to be sent here in this life on earth, doesn't. You just better think wisely of the words you're having out of your mouth. He is a loving God who has called ALL to REPENTANCE, for time here on earth is short, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent now before it is too late. You have no idea the enemy seeks whom to devour. And if you want to be caught with the enemy, then you better prepare to think about what you're going to do as humanity right now is going through the trials and testings to be born again or to forfeit that right to be in God's kingdom. I desire to be with the Father and I am responsible for my own walk.

[Tyme1313]

@btbc92

Except your bible is bullshit, its easy to disprove. Lets start with the fact that story of Noah was stolen from the Epic of Gilgamesh, not even to break down how wrong and illogical it is. The ark of the bible is roughly 80% smaller than the Titanic, yet somehow fit a single pair of unclean animals, and seven pairs of clean animals of every species (17.5 million currently, far more than that have gone extinct). This number of aminals in a small boat is impossible by the laws of physics. Not to mention even a 1/100 of this amount in that ship would kill every person on board due to methane build up. The story ignores plant life being covered in salt water for a year, meaning it was all dead, so the dove couldn't have brought an olive branch. If the dove brought an olive branch, then it means the bible lied about it being a world wide flood. If you attempt to claim there were less animals back then, if we go by the dates in the bible, evolution would be required to reach our current 17.5 million species. Not only that, but it would require 4 new species to evolve every day to get from the highest possible amount on the ark to our current amount of species by the biblical dating. So the story of Noah is 1,000,000% horse shit, thus your bible is wrong, thus it cannot be the absolute truth. That is one of hundreds of falsities and contradictions I can pick out.

[Tyme1313]

@btbc92

Your god is a war, storm, and fertility god of a dessert dwelling people. He is a lesser god, who was beaten by other gods multiple times in history. Your god is in fact weaker than many other gods, according to your bible.

You are most certainly a cult member, you believe every lie and falsity in your bible, even changing your personality to fit them. The moment I attacked your bible factually you fell into cult propaganda, word for word.

Your god is not the creator of all things, if he was your bible wouldn't be wrong. Your war god didn't create me, and I don't need to repent to your war god. What's more, your war god is not loving, he is evil. Enjoy your delusion culty...

[btbc92]

@Tyme1313 Easy to disprove? WOW. How many things does the word of God say that i can easily sum up with a good few if not more about you and what your already doing, what other people are doing, and you would be utterly embarrassed? Do you REALLY want me to go there?

" Lets start with the fact that story of Noah was stolen from the Epic of Gilgamesh, not even to break down how wrong and illogical it is." FALSE. Noah and by extension Gilgamesh are not STORIES or just stories by themselves. ALL of them were real. Especially Noah. The story of Gilgamesh and I can pull up my Ancient and medieval history textbook, is vastly different and is nowhere even identical. Noah branches off from his great-great-great-grandfather Enoch who has ascended to even as a Megatron and became an angel. He was and still is both human and angel who can easily come down here at any time period and you wouldn't even recognize him. Why? He didn't just rapture up, he became as Jesus had said: Be BORN AGAIN. The flood was a very serious thing. It talked about genetics. And we in this present time of 2021 if not before 2033 are going to see a vastness of events that is going to repeat itself over. It was both a spiritual and physical flood that happened. Because not only did the watchers had laid up with the daughters of men, but humans at the time also had sexual relations with the races (reptile = Think of V), species, and even animals. Every living thing they laid up with. Noah and his family were the only genetically pure humans on the planet. At those times, both were worlds apart. It doesn't have to sound logical to you. Because you will find out in this world not everything is considered LOGICAL according to human perception.

[btbc92]

@Tyme1313

"The ark of the bible is roughly 80% smaller than the Titanic, yet somehow fit a single pair of unclean animals, and seven pairs of clean animals of every species (17.5 million currently, far more than that have gone extinct)." I can tell you don't even know how to pay attention. The ark is actually like a genetic lab. It housed every DNA that is purely in its original form as God designed it, not exactly an actual ark, though there was and is one. Even the Titanic is symbolic, and they didn't even tell you that and how they actually trapped the people they wanted to kill off for their NWO, which is now the modern banks and "superfamilies" of the world. At the same time, you don't even know God's plan. Many of those animals didn't actually fit, because most were already tainted by sin. This is why God said two of each, male and female of their own KIND. That means, the bugs, fishes, etc didn't count because they can survive. Animals like Cows, Horses, Lions, etc, cannot last under water. Birds were mostly fine.

[btbc92]

And besides, God can always recreate these animals anytime he desires. So for you to say 17.5 million currently wouldn't even be an accurate number because not even scientist knows many many died off. We are now going to see most of these extinct species coming back again. the earth is going in cycles. And we are about to be at the end of this earth's cycle. Which is another reason why if you never noticed, the tectonic plates, new landmasses, land shiftings, and old places are resurfaces and that would include "new species", because the old will sadly die off. Even cats and dogs will and all of your favorite trees, etc too. That also includes people you now know. Not everybody will survive. The rest of us that will go when the trumpet calls will go with the Father and his son. Why do you think Elon Musk and the rest of them are trying to leave Earth? Wake up. There is more to the word of God then you know and it's much deeper than just "stories". It's encoded. Just that "Religion" taught us as if it was just stories. I am now learning that today.

You're just blowing up steam, not even knowing HALF of the stuff that is very ameture of your reasoning that you're talking about. I don't even think you even understand what your "Argument" is. You serve the devil and it is very clear you are beyond deluted and is in need of serious help. You must have been taken over by something because you even sound normal or even human by how you even talk. I suggest you pull up real facts and not make up fallacies to fit your deluded narrative than those who smoke weed. Your not giving facts, your spewing BS. And it's sad.

[maddie2003]

I try not to, but yes. I left the Catholic church for a nondenominational church because I felt that they were gaslighting me. The church I left wasn't 'pushy,' but there were members that were. Same w/ my nondenominational church: not everyone is pushy, but some definitely are.

[Craftsman]

Proselytizing folk can be found in many faiths. While Catholics do it to some extent, I've been worked on by Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Hari Krishnas, a few Jews, and a Muslim or two. I too am in California, so we have enough diversity to have all kinds of people, with all variations of zeal, practicing the religion they believe to be the Be All and End All of faith.
Sometimes the push is hard enough to have an exclusionary effect. We've seen that in religion as well as in politics and probably in a bunch of other areas as well.
Seems to me the best approach to the problem is to know you have feet, and know how to use them, to walk away from pressure and confrontation.

[MotorcycleMan]

I think so. The analogy is that there is a bridge out and you are driving full speed towards that bridge and certain death. They see it as their duty to save you before you drive over the edge. Or... save your soul from eternal damnation.
Pretty annoying to the rest of us heathens.

[Tyme1313]

Yea, they do push their beliefs down everyone else's throats, because they are a death cult. I'm sure most Christians would argue otherwise, but they are a death cult. A cult is defined as a group which follows a doctrine and charismatic leader, that uses either reward, punishment, or shunning to enforce their beliefs, or to otherwise change the personality of the member or convert. This is what the Christians call "sin," and their desire for people to no longer "sin" thus forcing them to change their nature and personalities to avoid "sin." They are specifically a Death Cult, because they worship death, believing that it is after their death that they shall be rewarded.

Just read the comments, you'll see plenty talking about their religion being the only true religion and using guilt, shame, and a concept of punishment to try to scare you into joining, telling you that you will be going to hell if you do not submit and change your personality. They automatically fall back into the cult doctrine and propagandistic scripts. Just test them, pick their bible apart, they will first react with disdain and superiority, then as you pick apart their defenses they will move to anger, finally when you leave them no further defense they will usually claim one of two things either (a) "clearly you are a slave to your sin, and you want to continue to live in sin, so talking to you won't do any good," or (b) "it is all a matter of faith, and I have faith in god and the bible." They fall back on either insult sticking to their cult beliefs, or they say that they are right because "for the bible tells me so."

[MrCommodore]

No I don't think most Christians including Roman Catholics are pushy, well not in comparison to Scientology reps in Malls in California, those guys are difficult to escape.

[BCRanger10]

You'd have to have an objective standard for what "pushing beliefs on people" means.

At any rate, the simple answer to your question is that some do and most don't.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Orthodox don't, we give the explication, if you like it take it, if you don't like it don't accept it.

[Siddeunusual]

I don't know. Sometimes I think they do exactly the opposite of what they are telling.
It's only about being mighty and having Money and controlling other people. It's the only sence of any religion

[admles]

I've found the catholics to be less pushy than the majority, but yeah christians in general in my personal experience tend to be pushy.

[In_Trance]

Everyone does this, not exclusively Christians and Catholics

[Tyme1313]

Yea, no, atheists and pagans like me don't force our beliefs down people's throats, it is exclusively an Abrahamic religion thing.

[In_Trance]

Lmao... ya ok. Athiests are the worst offenders. But you do you

[Tyme1313]

They have no faith to push, not to mention they don't run around demanding you abide by their faith. They only request you to stop pushing YOUR religion on them. Christians are the ONLY offenders, for all intents and purposes.

[In_Trance]

Ya ok