Keep in mind here I do not believe all or even most Christians are like this. I married into a very Christian family and the definitely are not like this.
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The same reason anybody with strong beliefs wants to push their beliefs on others- it validates their beliefs, and creates a world where their values are reflected in society. This is why leftists are running around sexualizing and mutilating children.
I have no clue honestly I never understood it either. I believe it stems from the fact that they believe they're doing a good thing and that it puts them closer to God. But it's none of their business
Agreed.
I think people should be free to choose their own religion, or leave their family religion because they don't subscribe to it.
The user you mentioned is batshit crazy.
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It’s specifically written in the Bible that Christians are responsible to share the gospel (the word). Sharing does NOT mean forcing. Quite a difference. But share nonetheless.
If you share it with me, and I politely tell you to stop, I'm not interested, and you continue, it is indeed forcing it on me because you have disrespected my wishes.
Nowhere in the Bible is it instructed to keep “forcing your beliefs”. Jesus told his disciples that if a town doesn’t receive them well that they are to “wipe the dirt from their sandals” and move on. Matthew 10:14
Maybe you have had a few bad experiences in your life. I’m not saying there aren’t people who misuse the Bible. There unfortunately are. But that’s not biblical to “force beliefs”.
I didn’t get into how the new modern Marxist woke left forces their “values” on to people by the way. I could easily give a long list on how they do that crap (cancel culture is huge example). But do you want to go down that rabbit hole? It’s up to you. But I didn’t assume you were like that so don’t assume I’m like what you mentioned above. I’m not. I might share when I feel inspired to but I don’t “keep going” if someone isn’t open to hearing it.
Im not in disagreement here. I can't stand the left my self. Especially how they have infiltrated the HR industry. We recently had training, and in that training, it was indicated that if you're straight and white, you better tow the line.. and that straight and white people can't be offended and that feelings matter over facts. Its sad. If you read my other comments though. i do indicate that most Christians dont do that. my own family that i married into dont do that thank goodness.
Fair enough. I think there was a time where you and I can remember that the left wasn’t like this at all. However their ideology IS a religion to many of them. There is a zealously that is insane. I think it’s time that whether Christian or not people need to draw the line on that crap.
Also thank you for acknowledging that most Christians aren’t like that. There might of been in time in history (Salem witch trials) where many were. But those persecutors were NOT following Jesus’s teachings. This is why the USA came was founded on the freedom of religion.
We need a new a amendment for freedom of ideology/political beliefs. It is completely legal right now to discriminate against someone and/or fire them over their political identity. I had a real life experience with this years ago. While I don’t like the “legal protected class” route it is unfortunately becoming more and more necessary.
I am a teenager and I agree that Christianity is imposed on society, because it is essential to kill progressivism.
Progressivism where it's going right now, is not good. It needs Christianity to keep it in check. I'm not Christian and I'm saying this lol.
The stormclouds of Christian persecution are on the horizon. The Communist Satanic "powers that be" are going to be PUSHING hatred toward Christian values, and the people who HOLD those values. But also, we should be witnessing to only those who agree to be witnessed to
It's not some, it's most. They do so because they feel they're correct and anyone else is either wrong or evil, thus their desires are worthless.
They…… are probably Jewish or something. They’re not fake since the harm is different, but they definitely don’t understand something
Where is the force here?
She's talking about getting her sister exorcised because she doesn't believe as she does. If you see the original question you will see what I'm talking about.
I linked you to it. Look at her comments.
I do see it. And I answered it earlier today.
She is ASKING if her sister needs one (for the record, I say no). And it was not because she doesn't believe as she does. She asked if it was because of the difficulties her sister is having. And she also states that she invited her to come to her church with her. Invitation is not force.
Please see my additional comment, if you have not already (I only mention it because I've seen your added comments as well and don't want anything to get lost).
I see, when her sister reacts badly to her bringing up religion, basically her sister acting as if she does not want to hear it, and going so far as cutting her off, but she keeps bringing it up, and talking to her about it, being forcing it on her.
When I deal with someone in my personal life, if they bring up religion, I politely yet firmly tell them I am Not interested.. Any further conversation on it is unwelcome and essentially forcing it on me. Which is why her sister has done by reacting in an angry way, and cutting her off.
Understood, I looked.
I don't see anything implied about multiple and overbearing attempts at discussing the subject. The way I'm reading it, all I have to go on is that there have been one or two attempts before being cut off. And yes, that kind of impatience does happen. In high school, I invited a friend to my old parish's youth group once. She told me "no" and I left it alone afterwards. About two or three months later, after having only spoken to her a couple of times in between, I just mentioned that I'd be praying without inviting her to join me and she freaked out and accused me of being overzealous.
I'm not sure I'd freak out over that lol. It's her other actions too. Her going to her pastor, her pastor telling her she is indeed demon possessed, if she didn't intend to force it, she would not have gone that far. I get that she wants to help her sister, but going that far is abusive at best.. Especially if she does force an exorcism on her. Which I have not see her suggesting she might. I've seen the aftermath of one of these "pastors" attempting an exorcism. It's not pretty.
If course I'm Uber sensitive to people forcing religion.
Here is why. I spent a huge chunk, almost half of my childhood in foster care. One place in particular, st Francis academy, who's motto was therapy in christ. They had Chapel three times a day. If you didn't participate, meaning you not only had to be there, you had to take communion, you had to sing, sit, stand, pray.. If you refused to do that, you were removed, taken out side, beaten until you were bloody, drugged with haloperidol, and put in isolation for weeks at a time, no access to bathroom, water and bread given once a day only.. All because I didn't believe and do as they do.. It makes you super sensitive to things like forcing religion on someone else. The place was eventually shut down, and the prison took it over, largely due to my testimony and my social worker finding out about it.. But I have a very low opinion of people using religion in a way that might Harm someone. If that makes sense.
Okay. So, regarding the first of these two comments, we actually might have some common ground. I am a traditionalist Catholic and I believe in Hell, the Devil, demons, and yes, exorcism. I do not at all like the hasty conclusions that some Protestants and Evangelicals come to regarding things like this. The exorcists I've listened to have said, essentially, that it's much more complicated. For one thing, exorcists go through special training to become exorcists. Then the claim of a possession has to be investigated and there are certain signs that they will look for; one doesn't just say they or someone they know is having a rough go in life and expect an exorcism. There are also different types of demonic activity, so there's a lot more in play. Plus, the late Father Gabriele Amorth wrote in a book that a good confession is stronger than an exorcism.
I suppose it can be like the burning house example. If you see people in a burning house who are unaware of their peril, do you try to get them out even to the point of trying to "force" them out or do you let them perish?
Apples to oranges comparison.
Do you mean like how homosexuality is being forced on our kids in kindergarten?
Dude stay on topic, I disagree with that too, but if you can't respond properly I'm deleting your comment.
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