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It's a symbol of a culture that breeds terrorism and misogyny.
its a form of supremacy to show they believe they are better than westerners.
Really? To me it just shows their restrictions and weakness.
@Jacadia LOOOOOL dumb bitch
@Jacadia That's literally what the majority of people around the globe do, think their way of life is better than others. Funny enough we westerners have a rich history of feeling superior than any other nation or community. I bet you've never heard of ethnocentrism. Keep projecting, sweetheart.
@TruthBringer We are as westerners supreme thats why the whole world is dying to live here. We created the best societies lets face it.
@Jacadia Ethnocentrism does not help anybody. You can take your arrogant superiority complex elsewhere. We created the "best societies" (a highly subjective view) much on the backs of other people and the resources of others as well. I suggest you educate yourself on the purpose of colonization. So you hold much pride in your "accomplishments" when it reality, it is all taken from other nations. I'm Dutch and I have much pride in my people and country, at the same time I don't feel superior when in fact, much good we have here in the Netherlands is thanks to our colonial past.
@Jacadia Your views do not differ from Nazis.
This culture and religion, is to kill terrorists and hateful people like you
@Jacadia Muslims are 100 times better than westners, who fuck their real mothers and sisters
@Zygum is that why you guys worship a pedophile, brutalize your women and kill apostates?
@Zygum Now now, what I said applies to both sides. There is no point in arrogancy and feeling superior. Everyone has their own culture that work for them.
@Juxtapose The pedophile argument has been debunked multiple times. And from a common sense perspective, you really think that 1.6 billion people worldwide would "worship" a pedo? Yeah, I didn't think so either. Also, they don't worship a prophet, they worship God. So either choose the actual truth or stick to a bigoted view that has already rendered invalid.
https://youtu.be/ZH8L3XiVrXw
@TruthBringer you sent me an Islamic apologist 😂
We all know Aisha was 9 years old when the marriage was consummated dude. I'm not going to sit through 20 plus minutes of an apologist, show me that Aisha was not 9 years old when she got fucked by Muhammad and then we can talk.
@Juxtapose AD hominems don't debunk anything. The only reason why you refuse to watch that "apologist" is because you don't want your ego and wishful thinking shattered. Funny that you say she was 9 years old, when there is evidence she was actually 19. But by all means, stick to your presentism and logical fallacies to justify your invalid bigoted opinions.
@TruthBringer yeah I read the apologetics where they try to jump through some hoops and subtract somebody's age from another person's age to try to get around the fact that Aisha was 9 years old when she got plowed by Muhammad.
And yeah dude, he's a fucking apologist. He said peace be upon him in the video and that is when I dipped out, I know a religious apologist when I see one. I have dealt with the Christian variety all my life and the Muslims aren't that different.
Muslims have a very intense incentive to lie. Have you ever heard of Taqiyya?
Taqqiya has nothing to do with this discussion. You're coming here with a very unorignal islamophobic accusation that has already been rendered false. But like I said, stick to your bigotry even though it has already been disproven. It seems like ad hominems are your way to go.
Of course Taqiyya is relevant, the Muslims are lying to you about their prophet while they marry off child brides in honor of Muhammad.
It still doesn't change the fact that traditional sources still say she was 9 years old when she got plowed by Muhammad 🥴
@Juxtapose These traditional sources are put into question, mate. The study of hermeneutics is a very serious and uneasy thing. People dedicate their lives to unravel the history, meanings and contexts of the religion and everything and everyone around yet. And we got peopel like you who just throw that all out of the window and call a prophet a "pedophile" when evidence points to the contrary.
I'll take this man's words and everyone (including non-Muslim experts who studied it) he references over yours any day.
https://youtu.be/1H-PEc3e69o
@TruthBringer annnd debunked
https://youtu.be/feH0oXrMOfk
Funny how you dismiss my video of an "islamic apologist" and continue to send a video of a notorious islamophobe. Sorry mate, I'm not going to watch a video of a dude who gets his facts and inconsistencies thrown back at him on the regular. Try again.
It is 12 minutes in but I don't blame you if you don't want to watch it since I didn't watch your shit.
Of course you wouldn't watch my "shit" when you're stuck in an islamophobic bubble and that is where you get your information from. Imagine having animosity to a third of the world's population and they don't even know of your existence. Let that sink in for a second ;)
@TruthBringer oh acts is one of the realest non-formal sources on Islam you're going to find.
We're clearly on very opposite sides and not going to agree so I'll just call it here and agree to disagree.
Agreed on that. You stick to your islamophobia and I'll stick to unbiased sources (including non-Muslims) who are happily debunking you and the ones you're getting your information from. Have a good one, mate ;)
Don't forget to celebrate draw Muhammad day ;)
I don't celebrate such things because I have no interest in being a bigot towards a group that has done me nothing. But by all means, continue expose that they are living rent free in your head
Geez man don't take them so deep or you will gag!
I'm quite sure you're taking it deeper considering your fondness for David Woody. You guys are even making up days liek "draw Muhammed day" just to piss off Muslims goes to show how much they are living in your heads rent free. Imagine dedicating a day just to express your hatred to a group who doesn't; even know of your existence Geez. 😂
@TruthBringer they care so little about me and my people they bombed the world trade centers and executed my fellow citizens overseas.
And your people continued to invade countries and bombed the shit out of peopel hwho had absolutely nothing to do with what happened to the world trade centers. The awkward moment when you find out that the same people who flew into the towers were part of a group having strong links to the CIA just to oppose the Soviets in Afghanistan. Oof.😂
So the solution to that is to kill Americans that had nothing to do with it?
And yeah dude I already knew that, the USA trained Bin Laden too.
Of course not, both are wrong. But it seems like you think it isn't okay to kill innocent Americans, yet think it IS okay to kill innocent Muslims. Thank you for exposing your selective morality.
@TruthBringer show me where I said it was okay to kill Muslims.
I'll wait.
If you knew the US trained Bin Laden, then you wouldn't be holding other people abroad accountable for what happened during 9/11. Go blame your own government.
"they care so little about me and my people they bombed the world trade centers and executed my fellow citizens overseas."
Someone who holds this view to justify his bigotry to a whole community happens to be okay with them being killed. So yeah, I assumed you did think it is okay they are getting murdered. I mean you hate them anyway.
@TruthBringer normally I would agree with that but Islam is a religion of multi-generational warfare and global conquest.
😂😂
THanks for the good laugh tho.
@TruthBringer
Funny, last time I checked Christianity is about conquest as well. last time I checked, Christianity was also spread by the sword. But no, by all means, let's just only hold Islam accountable for that.
These memes are good, not gonna lie
@TruthBringer I like them xD
Your memes actually is telling that you've never grown up or befriended a Muslim who is capable of teaching you about his faith and his way of life. Sad really. No wonder yourself and many other islamophobes a like have such a distorted view about Islam and think the hyper religious conservatives are who truly advocate for the entire Muslim community. In reality, they have a lot of common like us.
Much of what you show me does not resonate one bit with the Muslims whom I grew up with. They wouldn't care whether someone is gay or if they leave the religion. "live and let live" as my friend would say. Anyway, good luck living with so much hatred in your heart towards people who haven't done you anything wrong. I truly don't want to imagine what kind of life that must be.
I don't think western, mild Muslims are really Muslim anymore than cafeteria Christians who cherry pick from the Bible are Christian. Yes yes, no true Scotsman fallacy and all but I can't help but hold that view for people who claim to follow a a "holy book" and then ignore it's teachings.
The Bible for example is very clear on homosexuality and somebody bisexual like me should be a very popular assassination target for Christians and yet I walk around unscathed.
*follow a "holy book"
I don't think we're in any position to dictate who is a real Muslim or a real Christian. What matters to me is that people live their lives for themselves not hurting others. Whether they are Muslim, Christian or whatever. Much of what you say about Islam doesn't resonate with how I have got to know Muslims my entire life. That's why I said that I'm very sure you've never grown up with Muslims around you or had a Muslim friend whom you could have exchanged information with. The ironic thing is, that many memes you've shown, my Muslim friends make fun of as well. Because they do not agree and they consider these extreme religious conservatives to not be 'real Muslims' either.
In any way, feel free to believe what you want. I think it would be wise of you to actually have a real chat in person with a Muslim who would be happy to show you how they live and what values they believe in. I'm sure you'll find much common ground. Just as I have found much common ground with my Muslim, Christian and Atheist friends.
I don't think so. Some very beautiful women wear it.
Don't know enough about it or meaning behind it to answer
Yes. Hijab gives me tendency to explore what's inside.
Nope. May have exactly the opposite effect, like suits.
As long as they aren't operating forklifts. Yep seen it.
I guess I thought it was the whole idea of covering up the whole body, not just the head.
it makes me look down on them for adhering to an inferior religion
Its a symbol of subservience and oppression and control
It works on me because I don't want anything to do with the male counterparts such as their father or brothers who will be extremist but cases.
Yes. Except in a completely barbarian society, I cannot see how it would not work.
I think that works to some extent
What do we define as works
From here point of view I guess yes as she knows within her beliefs she is doing what her God instructs
Good for u but everyone lusts in differnt ways no
It works, as a tool of oppression.
I believe in a person's choice.
Yes, I do. Because women's hair is very beautiful.
by the way, I'm referring to not attracting male attention/ interest. AKA piquing their curiosity. I am NOT talking about preventing rape. A rapist can still attack a woman no matter what she's wearing. They don't care.
That's not the point of it 😕
I'll reply when you do.
A pervy mind is a pervy mind.
No. Only a burka works that way.
Bad fashion sense is a turn off so maybe
A hijab is super ugly and turn off
Then it’s working on you lol
@Kelly6 I like women who wear suits to work and tank tops jeans/ shorts on the weekend. Plus I hate religion
As I said it’s working for you
@Kelly6 Are you a Muslim? I am an Atheist and find religion plain pointless
No
But I mean if guys hate girls who wear it, then yes it’s making girl unattractive
Yeah. It works. I don't feel attracted to them
It doesn't work it makes them even more attractive
Do you wear one
Works to most extent if done right in my opinion
Looks ridiculous to me.
It's a culture.
Then, mind your own fucken business,
Who me? 😢
Yes they look sexy in one
Not as much as mini shorts.
for what purpose? it depends
Works for what?
Against rape and such
Most definitely anything Allah commands works
Nope
That sounds rubbish.
In what way?
Yes, I think they could.
Lmao...
Yea, of course
No. It's doesn't
Not in my book
Not on its own, no
So it works lol
Nope.
No..
Yes its works
Nope
Define "women"
Yeah it's working