Why are there so damn many liars and violent offenders in the United States?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The Second Amendment does not give anyone a right to own a machine gun. At the time that was written, the most advanced gun that existed was a Musket which was highly inaccurate and only a well trained expert shooter could manage to fire as many as 3 rounds per minute. A machine gun can fire 30 or more rounds per second and is a mass murdering killing machine which was literally invented as a satanic joke to quote "make Europeans more efficient at murdering one another." The fact is automatic and semi-automatic weapons should be totally banned except for military purposes. Not even law enforcement should be allowed to own or carry them

Furthermore, The First Amendment flat out does NOT give you a "right" to worship anything other than ONE TRUE GOD. It does not legalize witchcraft, atheism, polytheism, nor especially Satanism. the word "Religion" in the English language at that time referred only to GOOD WORKS in Honor of the One True God. If you read the Declaration of Independence, it flat out states that there is only one CREATOR and you get your RIGHTS from HIM and he is the SUPREME JUDGE OF THE WORLD. There are not 3 or 5 or 5000 valid religions. There is only one God. The Government at the time tht was written still burned witches, atheists and satanists a tthe stake, so how could anyone believe the First Amendment gives you a "right' to be a witch, atheist, or satanist? It flat out does not give you a right to be any of those things.

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Those aren't even "religions' at all. By definition, both Witches and Atheists deny that there is any God at all, and by definition a real Satanist is someone who rebels against God knowingly and worships Satan, whether or not they will admit that. They claim to deny a real satan exists, but "belzebub' is their high priest, and belzebub is literally the original name of the fallen angel who became Satan.

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The whole concept of a Law is a principle which is never violated in physics or logic once God creates it. Not even God himself can violate a Law once he makes it. He will NEVER violate the Laws of PHYSICS OR LOGIC ever again once he makes it, and he will NEVER violate a moral law ever in all of future eternity.

[normalice]

The first ammendment says congress shall pass no law establishing a religion. This was because England tried to use their king-friendly brand of Christianity to control settlers in America and the authors of the constitution were wise enought to uproot the whole pattern rather than just that specific religion. I do wish they said no law establish a race, too, as over time they become one in the same.

Anyway, there isn't a god. So, trying to tell other people what they ought to do based on what a god told you is actually just trying to tell other people what to do to make yourself feel better. A god is an unimpeachable moral authority that gives its followers a story of presecution to claim as their own. A god is also supposed to be all powerful but since that isn't going to happen religious people tend to skip over that part.. the first part is more important - an unimpeachable moral authority with a persecution myth to subscribe to. That's every religion. And that's trumpism.

But trumpism existed before Trump claimed it as his own. These persecution myths have been propped up by billionaires for decades and, at least since Limbaugh, have been blasting people with its toxic misinformation, shaping their thoughts and personality, relentlessly and effectively. Trump just saw this huge impressive structure and slapped his name on it, as he has made an otherwise failed career out of doing. And to be fair it didn't really have a spokesperson before Trump took the job. There were a lot of commentators adding to the cesspool but no one seemed eager to swim in it. Then Trump came along just when the walls were closing in on his financial crimes in New York and he decided to run for president so he could say any prosecution was actually political persecution and that he was an unimpeachable moral authority - could shoot someone in the middle of fifth Avenue and not lose a single supporter.

Then Putin stepped in because he wanted to dissolve NATO and Trump actually won with his help and the help of some felony election interference. This turned that cesspool into a supercharged fertilizer birthing a whole forest of liars and violent offenders. We will not fully recover from this for at least 50 years, if we recover at all. It is more likely humanity has permanently failed this test of reaching true civility by simply stating we don't want it. The technology availible to power now exceedes what it needs to prevent us from dragging them down to face justice. Even if Kamala wins this is all but inevitable, I think.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

there is a God, the Cosmological Argument and real Science proves it, and anybody who denies that is either willlfully in rebellion of God or else totally ignorant of real science and logic.

It is not possible for something to come from absolutely nothing without a Creator. it is not possible for anything to exist unless the First Cause is self eternal and Self-motivated, and the only thing that is allowed to be Self-Motivated ifn Quatnum Theory is a Free Moral Agent, an actual MIND BEING.

You are completely wrong, ridiculous and uneducated. The first thing we did in Logic class at LSU IS PROVE THAT THERE IS AN ALMIGHTY GOD.

[normalice]

No it doesn't. Sorry you were lied to.

Or, feel free to show me the magic. I've been desperately looking for any hint of it but it's always just someone who believes someone else's claim..

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Creation is not magic, dummy.

Creation is in fact purely Logical and Lawful and Orderly.

What atheists believe, which is that the Universe popped into existence from nothing itself, that is a lie and is purely "magic".

you are now a damned liar and a false accuser. What you believe has been prven dead wrong for thousands of years and was formally proven wrong by Rene DesCartes several hundred years ago using pure logic.

Nothing itself has no Creative power, therefore the Universe cannot come from Nothing itself. The Universe is known to be past-finite, and therefore the Universe had to be Created by a pre-existing reality. That pre-existing Reality must be Self-Eternal and Self-Motivated, otherwise neither of us would exist and neither would anything else.

[normalice]

I didn't saynit was magic. I said you need to show me magic if you want me to believe in magic.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

No i don't. I don't beleive in magic and you are a moron. magiic is a forbidden dark art. Neither Creation nor Miracles are Magic. Magic is when a person tries to cast a spell using demonic powers on another person. you don't even know what you are talking about. i don't believe in Magic and I also do not believe in Demon Possession, because that is Mind Control and the Book of Deuteronomy clearly states that every person is a Free Moral Agent with the power to choose good or evil for themselves.

you also do not have a right to offer a definition of "religion" since you are an admitted Atheist. You don't even know what "Religion" means.

[normalice]

Miracles are magic. They are both violations of the laws of physics. Show me a mircle, then, if you're going to get that worked up over semantics.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The Conostitution flat out does not give you a right to be an atheist, witch, or satanist nor polytheistic. I can show you the original definition of the word "religion" in the English language at the time the Constitution was written, and they flat out banned all of those false belief systems.

[normalice]

It says congress shall make no law establishing a religion.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

My Sister was healed of Stage 3 or 4 Hodgkins lymphoma, which is incurable, and she appeared on nation wide television at a New Orleans Saints half-time show for Cancer survivors.

I was literally given a "Divine Dream from God telling me that her cancer was cured, and then the next day she and my mother announced to me that her cancer was cured using the exact same words the Angel told me in the dream.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

And that never should have been written, because "Thomas Jefferson proved that there was one True God the day this nation was founded.

the True Religion is not Christianity nor Judaism, it is Deism. However, th e True God's name in Hebrew is in fact Yahweh, but Yahweh simply means "THE LORD" when translated into English. "The truth is that God does not have a 'given proper name' because nobody gave birth to nor created God. He can name himself whatever he wants to name himself, and whatever he instructs you to call him is what you are supposed to call him.

"The True Creator" works for me, because it acknowledges that there is only one true God and it also acknowledges that all other claims are false.

[normalice]

Sorry, but I don't believe you. You have to show me not just tell me a story.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I don't have to show you a thing, moron. That would be a violation of my "Sister's legal rights under HIPPA law.

Either you're going to believe my eye-witness testimony, or you can call me insane, but I don'pt have to present any more evidence than that to you. I've already proven you wrong with the scientific and logical arguments real PhD Physicists and Mathematicians use.

Dr. Michio Kaku, who si probably both the most intelligent and most educated person alive, said there HAD to be a Creator, because there is no way Relativity and QM and String Theory and the Universe itself could come into existence except that a Pre-existing Intelligence had to Create it all.

If you don't believe me, believe the world's leading expert physicist.

[normalice]

You are claiming magic exists so you can show me magic, or I have no reason to believe you. That's how this works 🤷

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN MAGIC. The Definition of magic is a dark art which worships satan eitherh directly or indirectly.

I am claiming that the Creator Created everything outside of himself in a LOGICAL AND LAWFUL MANNER.

If you accuse me of believing in magic again, i am going to ask the moderator to ban your sorry lying ass.

[normalice]

Magic/miracle.. whatever. Show me the miracle.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The thing about a Miracle is the only people who get to prove it ar ethe ones who either eye-witness it or who are Divinely told by God himself.

I cannot turn back time to perform a miracle for you, and I did not perform the Miracle the first time. God did that.

I cannot perform miracles, and don't claim to perform miracles, and even if I could do that, it would be God doing it, not me.

[normalice]

So, not going to show me. Just like all the others.. 😮‍💨

[SeekerOfTruth007]

if you've ever seen the movie "Bruce Almighty", Morgan Freeman speaking as "God" told Jim Carrey's character that Parting Water in his Soup Bowl and even walking on water was NOT a MIracle. Morgan Freeman's character told Jim Carrey that ordinary people, including single mothers, making a living was more of a miracle than parting water or even moving the Moon.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Also, you are half correct. i do not believe in Jesus or the disciples at all, because that is a logical contradiction, and I also don't believe in most of the alleged "miracles" in the Bible, because most of them have been proven to be either outright mythological lies, or else charlatans and illusionist tricks.

I even know how to fake Elijah calling down fire from heaven so that if I did that in a public place, half the audience would be convinced that I WAS THE REAL GOD IN THE FLESH somehow and would start worshiping me, but I am not God, that would just be a really cleverApothacary/chemistry experiment.

All you need to do is use stones that are rich in phosphorous, cover them in oil so they don't combust in the air, and then put the animal sacrifice on the altar, and then when you cover it with water, the oil will float up off the phosphorous, and the phosphorous will burn several thousand degrees in the presence of water and consume everything include the rocks and the water.

so i partly agree with you. Even Elijah is almost certainly a false prophet and nothing more than a very skilled Apothacary.

[normalice]

By the way I'm only really reading the first sentence or so. I figure if you are actually going to show me magic you would put that upfront. But instead you are referring to acts of television? I didn't expect much but this new low is not great either..

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I'm pretty sure Elijah and Elisha are actually the exact same person. In fact, in the Hebrew Bible the two names are even spelled exactly the same. IN the Englsih Bible they changed the second Elijah's name to avoid him being confused with the first one.

In my opinion, when Elijah was supposedly "translated" and taken to Heaven, he faked his death and renamed himself and disguised himself as another man and kept right on falsely prophesying.

Elijah also supposedly cast a devil out of someone, which is nonsense as I've already said, and the second Elijah could supposedly multiply oil and make steel ax heads float in water, which is completely nonsense. Miracles of Multiplication violate CPT continuity in physics, so they are definitely completely nonsense. Miracles of parting or walking on water of ax head floating violates gravity and several other laws, so they are also complete nonsense.

[normalice]

I'm not interested in lore. I want to see the magic or you are asking me to take your word for it and you have gone out of your way to show that you are hostile and insecure, so that's not happening.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

You area blatant liar and a false accuser. I don't have to prove anything to you. You are required to have rational mind and reason out for yourself that there is a God.

I am not hostile, I just called you out on your unscientific and illogical BS.

[normalice]

You are claiming magic exists and I'm asking you to show me the magic but you keep dodging. How does that make me the liar?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I am not claiming magic exists, and I warned you to stop lying and falsely accusing me. I am reporting you for falsely representing my statements. I do not believe in magic, and the fact you can'pt tell the difference between magic and logic shows you are uneducated.

[normalice]

Magic is anything that violates the laws of physics. Miracle is magic. And anyway if you are claiming witchcraft etc is "evil" then you are claiming it exists, too. So, where is it?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Witchcraft is the claim that there is no God. "The Bible defines witchcraft as rebellion "against God".

There are no true Dark Arts. they are all scams. I never said I believed in magic or witchcraft.

I knew a girl in highschool who was a witch and they swear they do not believe in either God or the Devil, but they are in open rebellion against God just as much as you atheists are. After all, the disbelief in "God means you have completely darkened your mind to the obvious reality around you. There is no possible way that this universe came into existence EXCEPT by being Created by an Almighty Being. It is perfectly ordered and always follows the laws of Logic. The only way that is possible is if a Logical MIND created it.

[normalice]

If it exists they you can show me.

The reason you can't show me any magic is because there is no such thing as magic.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I figured out how to prove part of the Creation story to you using QM and General Relativity. IN Relativity and QM the "empty" space of the Universe is made up of photon pairs in virtual vaccuum. These "dark photons" explain Hawking Radiation, and in fact without them Hawking Radiation would not happen at all.

In the Bible in the first chapter of Genesis, God Creates "empty space" off-camera at some point in eternity past, and then in Genesis he 'divides Darkness from visible light" so that "empty" space is made of "darkness' even though this "darkness' is in fact equal to visible light.

whoever wrote that was not guessing. The only want anyone could have known about QM and Hawking Radiation in 1600 BCE is if the actual Almighty God had told them that at some point.

End Proof.

Now educate yourself and REPENT.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

i DO NOT believe in the entire book of Genesis, but whoever wrote the first 3 or 4 verses nailed GENERAL RELATIVITY, QM, AND HAWKING RADIATION literally 3500 years before Einstein and Planck and Hawkings theories. All three of those men rejected God, even though their theories PROVE the Genesis Creation story of the Universe itself is exactly correct.

T he speed of light in vaccuum is the ultimate speed of the universe, nothing, not even "empty space" can move faster than that, because empty space is made of light.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

It is possible to observe and even harness "Dark photons" in a laboratory experiment via the Cassimir Force using two plates placed very close to one another causes Space Time to temporarily release a photon pair from its fabric, and a clever enough scientist can observe, measure, and even harness the energy of these two photons. It has been done and verified countless times.

Hawking Radiation only works because "Dark Photons" are in fact the building blocks of "empty space". Under the right circumstances, near a black holes event horizon, two photons can break free of the tensor fields near the event horizon, and under the right circumstances thehy can escape the event horizon and carry away more momentum and mass than they started with, thus very, very long time scalees allow these photon pairs to deplete the entire mass-energy of a black hole.

That is how Hawking Radiation works, and whoever wrote Genesis correctly derived both QM and General Relativity in laymans terms 3500 years before Einstein.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The copernican Principle has two Axioms, and both of them are required for Physics and Logic to make sense. An Axiom is a statement that we are 100% certain has never been disproven, but that we do not yet know how to prove absolutely. An axiom is used in math and science, because it is something that is so necessarily true, but not yet proven, so that without it you cannot make sense of reality.

Postulate 1: We do not occupy a special place in Reality.

Postulate 2: The Laws of Reality are the same for all of space and time.

Therefore the Copernican Principle forbids Inflation theory from being true, and it forbids "symmetry breaking" from being true.

The laws of the Universe are in fact Unified, but they are only unified in the Creator himself. Once God finished making the Laws, they NEVER change. if God ever adds a law to the Universe, it will no longer be the same Universe, and most likely everything living in the Universe would be destroyed by the new law.

[normalice]

I'm not going to read any of that. I'm still looking for proof of magic in the first sentence. If I don't see it in the first sentence I stop reading.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Then you are a fool. Some things in reality are way to complicated to prove in one sentence, you Godless moron. To hell with you then.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

does everyone else see how FOOLISH atheists are? This idiot is literally demanding that I explain the MOST COMPLICATED TOPIC IN REALITY in one sentence and refusing to even read it if I cannot do it in one sentence.

That is the very definition of willful stupidity and ignorance, yet he thinks he has some sort of intellectual advantage over me.

You are literally the DUMBEST PERSON and least educated person i have EVER debated under any circumstances.

[normalice]

Calling people a fool doesn't require an act of magic, either 🤷

[SeekerOfTruth007]

You called me a fool first. Reread the transcript. What you said, too lazy to read the entire argument, makes you the very definition of a fool. Sorry it's just true.

[normalice]

I'm not the one claiming magic exists.

[Anonymous]

Well I don't know that there are more liars. But as far as violent offenders it's probably our culture is more individualistic than most. As a result or society has found the family unit disintegrate over the years. The majority of women choose to have kids out of wedlock leaving them with 1 parent (if there lucky) that is in thier life. This leads to an erosion of morals. And this leads to damaged adults. Add to that relaxed bleeding heart liberals that want to let all these maniacs out into the street and the end result is these violent offenders know they'll never really be punished for thier actions.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

You are correct. Murderers and rapists are supposed to be executed after one appeal. Instead they leave them in prison, or even let them back out on the street and they do it again.

Oh yeah, over 75% of people in usa prisons for violent offenses claim to be "Born Again Christians". So much for the false religion of "Born Again Christianity".

[OddBeMe]

Actually the musket was quite accurate and nearly 50 millimeters (.50mm) per round. It was deadly.

But yes. If the founders foresaw the Gatling gun 50 years later they’d probably rethink some stuff.

[MrOracle]

When the founders were writing the Constitution, it was common for individual to own artillery and even entire warships. They understood perfectly that they did not want the government having individual arms that ordinary people could not have, and that as technology improved, it was important to keep the playing field level between government and the people.

These are men who quite literally had just fought a war against their own government, and who had to "hire" private artillery and private warships.

There are plenty of writings from the time, from the founders themselves, that expanded on their ideas, and their goals were clear and unambiguous, and it was NOT to protect hunting rifles.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@MrOracle Oh BS. If private citizens were allowed to own artillery and 50 caliber machine guns, the lunatics and terrorists would kill ten or even 100 times more people every time they went insane and decided to shoot up a shopping mall or a football stadium.

Your position is complete stupidity. How can you honest to God believe that?

[MrOracle]

I know several private citizens who own 50 caliber machine guns. The crime rate among 50 cal machine gun owners is essentially zero.

First, you are going to pay $40-50,000 for the gun. Then it's going to cost a minimum of $5k to have a compliant storage for it - and that WILL be checked. Ammo is about $4 per round. And you cannot take it out-of-state without filing paperwork in advance and getting it approved. But, yes, you can own an M2 50 call.

[DrPepper12]

Bruh, im with you on the guns but this atheist just found that erroneous farcical rant exquisitely funny!! LMFAO You got it all wrong bruh, God doesn't exist!!

[thenerdone]

At the time the second amendment was written, powder muskets and cannons were the most advanced weaponry available. Civilians were allowed to have military-grade equipment, so if anything, we should have jet fighters and machine guns.

[Anonymous]

Don't look into the racial demographics of violent offenders in the US if you don't want your worldview to collapse.

[Anonymous]

liberal societies tend to create more liars and violent offenders

biggest lie of them all, BLM was a peaceful protest with no violence

[MrOracle]

Unarmed grandmas get prison time for walking around in the capitol after police let them inside, but "mostly peaceful" rioters can set whole sections of a city on fire, cause hundreds of millions of dollars of damage, and even barricade police inside a police station and set that on fire, and they're "mostly peaceful" and largely unpunished. The hypocrisy is massive.

[Opinion Owner]

@MrOracle don't forget that parents are the terrorist watchlist for standing against the woke brainwashing on their kids

not to mention "basement dwelling incels" are a bigger threat than refugees flooding from 3rd world countries looking for revenge after our country bends the knee to globalists and start wars in 3rd world countries under false pretenses

but you gotta love ANTIFA the most. they fight "violence" using actual violence

[Fireguy17]

I see that a position on the Supreme court is not in your future.

[legalboxers]

[msc545]

I think you guys have just won the trophy for weird discussion of the year on gag. This one is really really strange.

[noohair]

Now that you got that off your cheat, now what?