What are some misconceptions about the name "Allah" ?

[Asya-2021]

Some people have the misconception that Allah is the name of the Islamic God. However, this is not true. Allah simply means "God" in Arabic.

I am a Lebanese Maronite Christian. We also refer to God by the name Allah, as our mother tongue is Arabic.

[thearchjoker]

Allah comes from the Hebrew word for god pronounced Hellohhim which evolved to Hallah and eventually to Allah. The funny thing about the Hebrew word for god is it literally means that we don't know gods name and Hellohhim was also mistranslated into a few times until it became Yahweh in English.

[strateguy632]

Close... but no.
1, "Allah comes from the Hebrew word for god pronounced" ALE. NOT
Hellohhim.
2, Ale evolved to Allah.
3, the Hebrew word for god literally means "power or strong or authority " not "that we don't know gods name"
A similar hebrew word spelled differently could mean that.
4. " Hellohhim was also mistranslated a few times until it became Yahweh in English." Nope yahwe is in hebrew bible. Not a translation nor mistranslation. For example leviticus chapter 1.

[thearchjoker]

@strateguy632 There is no Ale in Hebrew though you have El which is pronounced the same way you pronounce the letter L in English. Yahwe does not appear in the Hebrew as Yahwe in any place in the Hebrew bible. the letter W does not even exist in Hebrew.

[strateguy632]

1, " There is no Ale in Hebrew" false.
The hebrew bible does not have vowels but tradition has vowels "ale marked 2 dots, not el 3 dots".
2, "Yahwe does not appear in the Hebrew as Yahwe in any place in the Hebrew bible." It is hundreds of times for example the ten commandments in exodus 20.

[thearchjoker]

@strateguy632 Not as Yahwe the sounds needed to produce Yahwe do not exist in Hebrew. there is no W in hebrew no matter how many times you claim different. its like expecting English to have a letter that does a Heth sound like ח or ح that are found in Arabic and Hebrew. also Ale is not pronounced Ael but more like a ayle

[Lliam]

The name's origin can be traced to the earliest Semitic writings in which the word for god was il, el, or eloah, the latter two used in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament).

It is the name for God in Arabic. Even Arab Christians, of which there are many, use the word Allah in reference to God.

[thearchjoker]

El is for a male god while Ellah is a female god, but the God from the bible is the only one called Ellohim.

[Lliam]

Misconceptions? Some people people probably think that God and Allah are different concepts.

[Lliam]

@thearchjoker. Same ancient root origin. It was "borrowed" far later by a tribe that called themselves Hebrews.

[thearchjoker]

No no El is a word for a god/deity in Hebrew while Ellohim is The one true GOD (according to the bible) there is a huge difference between EL and Ellohim. Allah is the Arabic word for The God but when you take into account what langauges each holy book is written in you can see why a cristian would think Yahweh and Allah are different gods. Especially since they both diverged from Judaism in different directions. Unlike Christianity split into Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants which all acknowledge the same basic beliefs but disagree on more minor stuff (such as should the bible be in Latin or the language of the local people) thus being divergent strings of the same religion. Similarly Islam is split between Shia and Sunni Muslims where they both believe in the same core but not in who is the true successor of Muhamad. Do to the languages and the vast differences between the two religions its pretty easy to see why both could believe that "God didn't say that! This must mean their god is different one than ours" and to be fair ideologically speaking each religions take on the one true god is so different to that of the others that it makes sense that its functionally a different god even though they all believe in the same god.

[thearchjoker]

@Lliam my response was being written at the time of your post so i hadn't responded to it but no the Hebrews are not one tribe they are twelve. Also Hebrew is the oldest sematic language that is both of religious significance and is still in use with the oldest sematic languages being lost to time it is fair to use it as the start point as we simply don't know what was the first sematic langue although we do know of some very old ones

[Lliam]

@thearchjoker. You're giving way too much credit to a tribe of nomadic goat herders. City states and empires far predated them. And they were never as significant as the Judean rabbis who wrote the Torah made them out to be.
I'm going by history and archeology. I place zero credence in the Bible.

[thearchjoker]

You think Christianity or Islam are any better? you could call Christianity a weird cult and Islam a bunch of Camal riders in the desert. And no the Rabies did not write the bible as it was already written long before the romans. the entirety of the Torah and Nevi'im books within the bible were already written before rabies were even a thing. Writings the only book that was changed in the rabbi era was a minor edition that was much smaller and less important than the previous two books. The bible is by no means a perfect way to see the past but in it are windows to another era, the Maccabim rebellion did happen even if not exactly 1 to 1 of how it was described in the bible and so was Jerusalem sieged by Babylon. You should not put zero credence in the Bible nor should you put 100, instead take it with a grain of salt and try to understand it from a historical context of the time.

[Lliam]

@thearchjoker. The Torah was written by Judean rabbis. It is widely seen as a product of the Persian period (539–332 BCE, probably 450–350 BCE). Advanced cultures in the region predated it by over 2500 years and even predated proto-Hebrews by many hundreds of years.

It contains creation mythology, much of which was borrowed from more ancient Mesopotamian cultures. It contains fairy tales about the heroic history of Hebrews, Israelites and Judeans. And Talmudic texts were inserted.

It is not the word of God. Its claims about a God are no more valid than those of any other culture on earth.
It's historical accounts have been disproven by historians and even Israeli archeologists.

[thearchjoker]

Rabbis were formed because most Jews were kicked out of Judea by the romans and thus they could not pray in the great temple as the religious leaders pre rabies were Kohanim. The title rabbi only emerged at around the 1st century CE. back in 500 BCE the leaders were Kohanim its like if you said the napoleon did something in the 1200 to 1233, he wasn't even born yet. So unless you believe in time travel having rabbis right the bible hundreds of years before the first rabbi would be impossible.

As for the creation myth, Judaism was actually rebellious for its time. the Mesopotamian religions pre Judaism all had chaotic myths of how the world formed with war between gods and the likes. They were violent and chaotic. Judaism and all the Abrahamic religions to follow it differed by having a peaceful creation of the world. No gods waring, no monsters, no death & no destruction just a peaceful creation of the world. Even outside Mesopotamia most religions had chaotic creation myths, for example look no further than Greek mythology. While they may have taken some aspects from other regions it was definitely very different to anything that came before it as not only was it peaceful but there was only one god.

As for the third thing you said i don't fully understand what your trying to say with that paragraph.

[strateguy632]

That reminds me when a German was praying in German i only knew a few words then i heard "fuerer" and i freaked! But same idea that same word like in arabic.

The main difference is you probably described alla different than their alla.

[zagor]

Fuhrer just means leader.

[strateguy632]

@zagor "Guide" according to google translate. But hitler did not mean a tour guide!

[zagor]

Reichsfuhrer means state leader, not state guide, which sounds like someone at a national park.

[jshm2]

True.

English speaking dimwits seem to have all sorts of conspiracies about the name Allah. I've heard everything from "moon god" to Baphomet being it's "translation".

What I find funny is that there is more paganism in Christianity, than in Islam or Judaism. Yet Christians seem to love shouting and pointing fingers at others.

[DrPepper12]

The misconceptions the West has about Islam in general is infinite and many don't care to learn because they have their heads so far up Jesus ass. 🤷‍♂️

[ehatsham_hussain]

Wow great information 👍
Thanks

[LiamJHayden]

That all Muslims think the same way.