So, I have been learning about Christianity since January of this year and I saw Jesus Christ around my birthday in March. And I talked to people of different communities and I embraced it in March after realizing it was Jesus Christ himself, son of God. Though that's a separate debate if He is God or son in Nature or in grace.
I live in Muslim country and no I didn't do it for stupid benefits like lots of people do. So, anyways I know devil wants to lead me astray. Finally, today I got the most derogatory and most saddest and painful insult of all time. So, I was watching a prayers channel on YouTube live and some guy from my country was there.
He had the audacity to be such a hypocritical Muslim I cannot believe it.
He was like hey, everyone, love you Kat (the preacher) and then he asked if I was Muslim and I said I left for Jesus Christ and he told me I should go back to Allah and if I think Jesus is Son of God.
Finally he said, Gorray kiea chakkar mein akhirat kharaab na karlo wapis Ajao Allah ki taraf. Translation : Don't ruin your ahirat or heaven and hell due to these white people. It was so low I am still mad about it and just sad. When I was a Muslim God always protected me and even after I became Christian I know He protected me but those around me never accepted I was a Muslim. They just hated it. And here is the hypocrisy, he said he didn't care about anyone. Why do Muslims not care about anyone even their fellow Muslims.
Anyway I am 30+ and it hurt like hell ( we have white people in our country too and I have heard of less derogatory comments on them then on actual white people). Is Jesus Christ only for white people? My Christian non Bio Mom told me I shouldn't do it if it is for her. I didn't do it for her but for myself. Don't people see who are born Christian how lucky they are.
I even ask you Christians, why do you see the reverts with suspicion? It has been so nerve wrecking for me. Aren't black people also Christians?
I live in Muslim country and no I didn't do it for stupid benefits like lots of people do. So, anyways I know devil wants to lead me astray. Finally, today I got the most derogatory and most saddest and painful insult of all time. So, I was watching a prayers channel on YouTube live and some guy from my country was there.
He had the audacity to be such a hypocritical Muslim I cannot believe it.
He was like hey, everyone, love you Kat (the preacher) and then he asked if I was Muslim and I said I left for Jesus Christ and he told me I should go back to Allah and if I think Jesus is Son of God.
Finally he said, Gorray kiea chakkar mein akhirat kharaab na karlo wapis Ajao Allah ki taraf. Translation : Don't ruin your ahirat or heaven and hell due to these white people. It was so low I am still mad about it and just sad. When I was a Muslim God always protected me and even after I became Christian I know He protected me but those around me never accepted I was a Muslim. They just hated it. And here is the hypocrisy, he said he didn't care about anyone. Why do Muslims not care about anyone even their fellow Muslims.
Anyway I am 30+ and it hurt like hell ( we have white people in our country too and I have heard of less derogatory comments on them then on actual white people). Is Jesus Christ only for white people? My Christian non Bio Mom told me I shouldn't do it if it is for her. I didn't do it for her but for myself. Don't people see who are born Christian how lucky they are.
I even ask you Christians, why do you see the reverts with suspicion? It has been so nerve wrecking for me. Aren't black people also Christians?
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There is a direct through line in the history of the west that travels through evangelical christianity and white supremacy. The notes of it being only for white people isn’t an incorrect assumption to make as christian churches in the United States are pretty segregated. This isn’t on purpose, but simply a continuation of practices that were present during times of racial segregation as they are two different cultures around the same religious figure. Jesus wasn’t white, he’s not for the white people, that’s not the point of the religion.
However, there isn’t really any difference between Jesus and Mohammed as they are both prophets of God, who goes by YHWH, or Jehovah, or Allah. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all branches of the same tree with minor disagreements about which prophet did what. According to Christianity, Jesus is the only son of god conceived immaculately through Mary and the messiah of the world. This doesn’t discount the words of Mohammed or Moses, they’re all very similar sentiments and messages over all in my opinion.
Why say that I became Christian because of whites? I was inspired by Jesus.
My life has been sad and difficult for past 5 years.
I didn't become a Christian because of a white person. Not the reason why I became Christian.
He was pissed with me being Christian but he was part of same prayers
But I didn't change to Christianity in my darkest of times. I did it when I thought I am more neutral or more sensible. It was not an emotional spur of the moment decision
I understand that, but you’re taking a very obviously incorrect comment as a personal insult.
It was insulting and it hurt like crazy. Is it wrong if white people embraced Christianity first and it took me second?
Actually my non Bio Mom is white and I felt like it was a personal attack on her 😔.
White people didn’t “embrace” it first, they developed a power structure around it first. The Roman Empire just evolved into the catholic church and everything else became heresy to the point of erasing any other form of worship, and then eventually erasing all other local religions.
Obviously you are hurt, but you also assume this man cares about your pain and it’s very obvious he doesn’t
I know Romans actually changed some of their pagan deities and christenized them to suit their own purposes.
And you are right I shouldn't feel this way. He was a nobody and neither cared about my pain.
Are you also a Christian? To tell you the truth. Life is not exactly easy
I was raised protestant christian but left the church when I was a teenager and my family no longer forced me to attend.
I don't know where I belong. I do associate myself more with Protestants and evangelists and LDS. I don't worship graves, or worship Mary even though she is esteemed.
I don't attend the church they are Roman Catholics mostly and most saddest is I am afraid of people finding out:(.
You are so lucky
I would hope not LDS as that’s the mormons. They’re not considered christians, they’re cultists following the words of Joeseph Smith not Jesus.
I actually have a friend. She never pushed her ideas but I know they are not considered mainstream Christians but I follow Jesus Christ. I know LDS have a bad past.
Bad past and present
What happened in the present with them?
They’re pretty well known for being anti-queer, not to mention the polygamous branches are still thriving
Being anti gay is in Bible.
Polygamy is also in Bible.
I don't like they were anti black at one point in time
It’s not. The word “homosexual” wasn’t added to the bible until a purposeful mistranslation in 1946, and the word it replaced originally meant “pedophile.” This was done during a historical event known as a lavender scare. On top of which, Luke 7:1-10 depicts a scene of Jesus healing a centurion servant, which was re-translated from the original greek term to describe specifically a male love slave for the male centurion soldier, and Jesus blessed their relationship. The bible is not anti-gay, the people who turned it to English were.
Polygamy is indeed in the bible, alongside justified rape. The LDS, among a good number of other protestant branches of Christianity, are not representative of Christ, but the LDS is notoriously so. You should hear about some of these “sister wives” and how they escape from such awful places.
If what you say is true then how is Bible divinely protected?
And how do you say it was mistranslated in 1946 when the Christianity has been around for 2000 years? I mean do you have a Spanish or Greek translation or even the Russian Orthodox translation? Do they not have the words in Deuteronomy laws that a man shall not wear woman's clothes, and woman shall not wear man's clothes and both shall not like of their own gender
And I don't know what's sister wives.
You do know the original biblical language was Greek, right? The first bible that included the New Testament was Greek.
Yes I know:). I have read some past history too
Then why are you asking me about the translations into English? If you’ve read the original Greek text and compared that to English, you can see how it would be mistranslated, even more so when attempting to translate it to Latin and then English, or Olde English to modern English.
Yes but I thought it was given divine protection as it is word of God. I don't know if it was mistranslated. Can't be.
Is Russian version also mistranslated and in 1946 no less?
I imagine the Russian version is also very anti-gay despite the original translation. Look, this conversation has gone on long enough that the replies have hit 20 and I refuse to reply again. You want to keep talking, DM me. The word itself my have “divine protection” but the people who wrote it do not
Thanks, alright I will DM you:)
First, Aren't black people also Christians? They are no doubt.
Christians often see the reverts with suspicion because of https://www.britannica.com/topic/taqiyyah
That is stretched even when no danger, if it serves any religious purpose.
I didn't do Taqiyah and it's truly a Shia Islam practice not in other sects.
I hate people who do Taqiyyah.
Anyways, if I am thinking right, you would always treat reverts to Christianity with suspicion? I don't think that is healthy and if you don't already know Reverts in Islamic countries are treated badly. I am not living in a Western country and neither do I want to leave my country. I wish there was someone who would lighten my frustration.
And as a matter of fact, Black people are far more numerous who have embraced Jesus Christ as their savior.
No, seems like you're mentally ill, and need help.
How am I mentally ill?