Could you devote your life with the sacrament of Holy Orders to God like the late great Pope Francis & all the self sacrafices it entails?

[Gwendoline]

as well as all the priests, nuns, monks, bishops and cardinals? Saints and martyrs.

I was planning to become a nun until I met my partner. God choose a different path for me as a wife and mother.

[Nik1hil]

I can..

I am Virgin, never kissed or had sex..

So I can live a life without such things..

I qualified in 94 Percentile of National level Management selection exam.

Understand Commerce , Psychology, STEM, and With MBA - Finance with Minor in Marketing and HR.

I think I can handle it, I just don't drink alcohol, so it's Something I would have to start in for of Blood of Jesus/ Wine.

And I would Love to Revive Christianity Not just for Jesus or Glory of God. But for People need it, They are being Invaded.

[MisterWack]

I could not and would not.

I believe in the Progressive and Open Mindfulness The Pope had, he heard he might be the last one which is sad to see. He set a standard and it will not be the same without him, I especially loved how he would stand up for the poor & be their voice. That was nice.

[MisterWack]

I would like to add that anyone who devotes their life to this stuff and wants to make the world a better place is a cool dude or gal in my book. Just not for me, doesn’t mean it isn’t a spiritual & special & faithful driven part in people’s lives. Spread love and keep the faith.

[Screenwriter]

No. For a minute in 5th grade I thought about it, but at age 10 I was clueless as to what that sacrifice looked like. By high school I knew better.

It's like thinking you'd like to be a surgeon then realizing all the people you'd have to tell their parent, child or spouse died during surgery. Not because you were incompetent, but because what was wrong with them just wasn't fixable!

Have to realize your limitations.

[NoDecision]

Funny how they worship the Pope while the Christian God was crucified on the cross.

[Gwendoline]

Are you like a Jehovah Witness?

The Pope is not worshipped but venerated because of his life long service to God.

The Roman Empire fell in 1453 with the fall of constantinople to the ottoman turks. Christianity took over the Pagan Roman Empire from which it spread throughout the Empire thus becoming the dominant religion in Europe growing even after the decline of the Roman empire and even after Christian land in africa and the middle east fell to Islam. So the Roman empire was a bastion of Christianity for over 1000 years and many of its ancient churches, cathedrals and basilica and catacombs are still to be found from the early Christian evangelists as they spread the gospel. All prodestant churches come from Roman Catholicism.

[NoDecision]

@gwendoline " So the Roman empire was a bastion of Christianity for over 1000 years" Really? I thought they just threw Christians to the lions in the Coliseum for laughs. They were heavily persecuted and are to this day. Gays apparently have more rights than a Christian does.

[Gwendoline]

You need to learn history. The Roman empire the very empire that crucified a Jewish man in their empire embraced his teachings and his God becoming Christian.
The Nicene Creed was adopted in the reign of Emperor Constantine after Christianity was made the official religion of the Empire under Constantine. The Christian buildings are all there from these times.
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[NoDecision]

Constantine was at a different time than when the games at the Coliseum were going on with Christians being put in with hungry lions or crucified upside down.

[NoDecision]

@Panthero Peter was a disciple of Christ, not a Pope. Where do you get this from?

[NoDecision]

@Panthero Quote the book and verse which says this in the Bible. It did say that Peter was the rock on which the church would be built. But the Roman Catholic Church was not even around back then. Nor were any churches.

[Staximus]

No god was crucified on a cross, a human was

[NoDecision]

@Staximus He was human at the time. But he rose to something greater.

[Staximus]

Don't wash hogs

[NoDecision]

@Staximus The correct term is don't cast your pearls before the swine.

[Staximus]

You're not offering any valuable ideas, so you're not casting pearls before swine. You're just repeating hogwash you were told to believe, so don't be a hog washer.

[NoDecision]

@Staximus And you are believing stuff that Satan told Adam and Eve long ago to throw them off the truth. You have heard, "The truth will set you free"? Well you are still in prison.

[Staximus]

The truth is Jesus was just another cult leader. Not born from a virgin, not a god, did not rise from the dead, and was not the son of a god any more than anybody else. Just because some guy wrote all this crap in a book a long time ago doesn't make it the truth.

[loveslongnails]

One thing is clear: "My God is better than your God" mentality has caused more man inspired deaths & wars on this planet throughout history than ANY other single belief or practice.

You'd think humankind would have figured that out by now, but no, here you guys are spouting mostly non-evidence based information based on beliefs. doing the exact same thing again. Keep in mind, there has never been an atheist or agnostic Crusades, has there?

[exitseven]

No, my wife's great uncle was a Bishop. It was a big deal and everyone was proud if their kid became a priest. I think if one of my sons said he was going to join the priesthood I would have him kidnapped and deprogrammed.

[Gwendoline]

I don't think deprogramming would work if he feels called.

[Kaneki05]

Maybe to get rich like the pope, but then again I am not that driven by greed than him.

[Gwendoline]

The Pope takes a vows of poverty

[Kaneki05]

Sure he does that's why his networth is nothing, and he starved on low income his whole life... It's crazy what one tells themselves.

[Gwendoline]

The Pope has no networth

[Kaneki05]

Sure, just like how he didn't have a Mercedes-Benz G-Class that's worth above 300k right? Which ya know a person in poverty could never have.
The pope was far from poverty, all it takes is a simple search to find out he is rich and was living a good wealthy life style with things a poor person would never be able to afford.

[Gwendoline]

It's not his. It belongs to the church. Much in the same way and airliner pilot doesn't own the plane.

[Kaneki05]

So your logic I would be poor if another entity pays for me to live in luxury? I see. I disagree as nobody in actual poverty would be able to live such a nice wealthy life. Your just rich by someone else's funding which is exactly how the church works to make itself rich while pretending it's humble.
Then it tricks you by pretending it's poor. Such a good scheme well it's not but it works on the masses somehow.

Ask any homeless person you see on the street is the pope in poverty and they'll laugh at you. Because anyone in poverty knows he ain't it.
And they would happily swap places anyday... it's almost like the other is way better off.

[Gwendoline]

Define luxury? Working 16 hour days 7 days per week, praying, fasting, reading scripture, constant travel? What luxury beside the best medical care in the world?
Someone that's homeless lives in abject poverty and not poverty. So if someone was staying at a shelter or ymca are they no longer in poverty?

[Kaneki05]

You see the fact you think staying at a shelter is the same as been well off like the pope is the delusion. And yeah... I think you'll find the poor don't get the best healthcare in the world but thanks for giving me another point to how he does live in wealth.
Like I said ask anyone in actual poverty what that is and ask them if the pope is better off than them the answer will be 100% yes.

[Gwendoline]

A vow of poverty in a religious context is a solemn promise to renounce personal ownership of material possessions and to live a life of simplicity, often in a community setting. It's a way of following Christ's example of detachment from earthly wealth and focusing on a spiritual life. This vow is not about deprivation of basic needs, but rather about a commitment to live with a spirit of trust and availability, prioritizing service to God and others.
Key aspects of a vow of poverty:
Renunciation of personal property:
Individuals who take the vow renounce the right to acquire, possess, or dispose of personal property.
Living simply:
It involves embracing a life of simplicity, often with shared resources and a focus on essential needs.
Sharing resources:
Material possessions are often shared within the community, with everything being used for the common good.
Focus on spiritual wealth:
While renouncing material possessions, those who take the vow often find spiritual and reputational wealth instead.
Following Christ's example:
The vow of poverty is seen as a way of imitating Christ, who is considered the Poor One.
Availability for mission:
Living free from material concerns allows individuals to be available for various missions and service to others.
Solidarity with the poor:
The vow can also foster a deeper understanding of and connection with those who are experiencing material and spiritual poverty.

[Gwendoline]

Many Catholic religious orders, like the Franciscans, Dominicans, and Jesuits, have a strong tradition of living the vow of poverty, often with a communal lifestyle where members share their possessions and resources.
Bruderhof communities.
Monastic orders, like the Benedictines, also incorporate the vow of poverty into their way of life, with members living in a communal setting and sharing their resources.
In essence, the vow of poverty is a commitment to a life of simplicity and detachment from material possessions, focusing instead on spiritual growth, service, and following the example of Christ.

[Kaneki05]

You are funny the pope wouldn't know what poverty is in the first place to make such vow, plus look at his weight fasting? Yeah right. He's not fat fat but he's got more weight than me and I don't diet.
I am sure the palace he lived in was a humble cheap home right? And I'm sure his funeral was a cheap event too after all he was in such poverty right? It's pretty simple the Vatican is rich and he was their poster boy to fund and gloryify if he wanted to take an actual vow to poverty he would need to abandon that rich place, and go live doing a basic mini wage job living in a small flat.

[Gwendoline]

If you look at impoverished people in America and Mexico a lot of them are obese. As men get older they naturally put on weight around the midsection.
Basic minimum wage job would mean he has money and possessions

[Gwendoline]

The home he lived in is basically a museum

[Kaneki05]

You don't put on weigh if you don't go over your Kcals which ya know if fasting should be easy to do, unless ya know you get greedy and eat a lot at the times your allowed to which one could say is a sin. Well some poor still spend a lot on food don't make him any better though.

And yes it would because everyone does that's how the world works, even rural tribes have possessions of some form, but it would make him in more poverty than he is pretending to be while the church gives him everything.

Tell me who is more struggling, guy who has to live in small flat working paying check to pay check , has never left his home town, has to pay to get to his own work, make sure he has enough for food.
Or the guy who has to preach about god but don't have to worry about bills, gets to travel see wonderful places, gets to live in nice museum as you put it and never has to worry about food, or travel.
Also if one has a health problem who do you think get's that solved without worry, and without a bill added I wonder?

[Gwendoline]

Just a natural thing as you get older your metabolism slows. Men put weight on around their waist, women on their boobs, butt, hips and thighs.

[Kaneki05]

That's some major cope, Metabolism don't slow by that much and is very much in the same range from 20-60. And actually you start to lose weight naturally after 60 so...
So this excuse is flawed.

[strateguy632]

In general i am too weak, for lots of sacraments, but for the LUXURY life in pope home i could spend all day in sacrament worship.

Those "self sacrifices" are balanced by the honor and luxury gotten by cardinals and popes!

[strateguy632]

Some examples of the "hard life" pope chose.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ebTi-RdWLkc

[Gwendoline]

The church is wealthy not the Pope. Because the church is basically 2000 years old over time it's wealth through it's members has grown

[AviatorTom]

I went to a Catholic grammar school, and was asked by the nuns if I wanted to become a priest. I decided, around age 10, that wasn't for me.

[SuperZonicGUY1992]

Pope he is friendly he loved LGBTQ community. Who are we to judge? God said never judge!

[Gwendoline]

He did complaint that there was too much Sodomy going on in the seminary.

[SuperZonicGUY1992]

What did you're husband said about Pope death?

[Gwendoline]

He was sorry to hear about it

[NoDecision]

That is not entirely true. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret. (Ephesians 5:11-12 NKJV)

[SuperZonicGUY1992]

@NoDecision Shut up u boring Protestant! Stupid fat ugly lady

[NoDecision]

@superzonicguy1992 or is that "superzonedoutguy? I'm just reporting the facts. Don't kill the messenger yet.

[Joshydavid25]

If it were God's will.. Sure.. I don't know if I would say that the Pope did that.. But hey.. Lol..

[Sevenpointfive]

i also almost went into a religious career until i started listening to it. i was 4 years old and already knew i wanted to be a priest! that's weird.

[slatyb]

No, God isn't real. Also I don't believe that he was really sacrificing anything. People do as they please for their own reasons.

[EmmaMary]

Not a fucking hope in hells chance!

[Gwendoline]

So no lol

[EmmaMary]

You got it in one... Just how did you guess? lol

[RedInnocent69]

I could, but I wouldn’t really want to. You need to have a calling

[DrPepper12]

Like Hamilton said "I'm not gonna waste my shot"

[Gwendoline]

Lewis Hamilton?

[Likestorizz]

Noooo never , I like to enjoy my life

[shortster]

Dies at 8? I thought he was much older?

[RedInnocent69]

You restart when you become Pope

[shortster]

What if you retire from being Pope?

[RedInnocent69]

Beats me. I expect that rarely happens. That’s a question for the Vatican protocol office

[Gwendoline]

@RedInnocent69 before Pope Bendict the last time a Pope retired was 700 years ago.

[katiesmuff]

Not so much as a glimmer of a chance for me!

[Agape93]

No I'm not any flavor of Christian.

[DrPepper12]

I've tasted Jews Christians Muslims & athiests. They all tasted great! 😃

[Agape93]

Pffft xD

[PaleDale]

I'm not chaste or good enough.

[Gwendoline]

You can be a sinner and repent

[PaleDale]

Thanks. I am a sinner I'm ashamed of my sins and do try to repent them as best I can.

[FunkyMonkee]

I wouldn't waste my time.

[loveslongnails]

No. I don't believe the dogma.

[douride2]

No sorry but I'm good.

[David318578]

You're married and have kids already?

[MrChinaski]

I think he was a great man

[Anonymous]

No..