If atheist don't believe in religious or God... then what they think and believe about occults.. and why?

[Anonymous]

[Hardon-Collider]

It's almost as if your terminology is as ill-defined as possible to get nowhere. I know that that's just how everyone speaks, but you have to start caring about the meanings. Not just these broad, almost "buzzwords" because they eliminate the possibility of reaching an answer any more knowledgeable than what you start with. It's like if someone thinks that computers are calculators (which in a sense they are) you would never convince them that you can use the internet.

Terminology matters

Let's substitute "atheist" for "people who believe only in laws of newtonian physics as the sole enabler of reality".

And replace "occult" with "secret/forbidden teachings about immaterial mechanisms that make the world function".

Obviously, the former are victims of being deficient in the latter. They can't think of something they don't know about. "Occult" is literally translated to "hidden".

I think "spiritual science" needs to be spread and studied. But i don't judge. You can't be brave if there's no resistance to be afraid of. You can't love if there's no pain that tempts to hatred.

Wherever you need to start... maybe with proof of reincarnation? https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/our-research/children-who-report-memories-of-previous-lives/

Or governments attempting to reuse the atavistic clairvoyance that used to be natural to us millions of years ago (but we got rid of it in order to develop critical thinking faculties and individuality and the capacity to love)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/YrwAiU2g5RU

If there's one set of perfect"teachings to share that aren't political and stayed true for at least 100 years, I'd say these and i can share a tоrrent file with 30 gigabytes of the current archive updated last month if you want, including those that are unaccessible from the menu. Strongly recommended.

[In_Trance]

• Atheism as "lack of belief" This perspective holds that atheism is simply the default position of not being convinced by claims for the existence of a god or gods. In this view, all people are born atheists, as they have no innate belief in a higher power. Proponents argue it is not a belief system or ideology itself, and therefore carries no inherent dogma or moral framework.

Atheists live their life within a set of guidelines and it is not a lack of belief

[Asker]

That's very useful point.. and a lot of effort was put it.. I appreciate... but I wonder how they handle the dark part of this.. especially of occult things... beside what they think... aren't they got somehow scared or anything of it.. or like they never wonder to approach all this spirituality debunk from that perspective.. of darkness

[strateguy632]

They believe demons and supernatural occult and non-physical stuff are not real. Sometimes they talk about "follow devil instead" but thatt is like saying "spaghetti monster" just to troll, not really believing devil.

[BCRanger10]

I asked a similar question about a year ago. If I remember correctly, they seem to think that pagans, Satanists, Thelemites, and such are all stupid as well.

[slatyb]

It's all bullshit. There's no evidence for any of those beliefs.

[Asker]

I can agree and not agree... well.. it's happening because.. like when you know nothing of even such term... like it's not explain what is and why such things exist... then yes, it easy to say... but when like if you dig deep down and just take the Information how it's presented to you.. then what you doing and thinking then about

[slatyb]

I have no idea what you are trying to say, but there is no evidence for God, ghosts, demons, witchcraft, all of it.

[genericname85]

if you're religious, just ask yourself what you feel about any other religion but your own. that's what atheists feel about your religion, every other religion and occults as well.

[Sal_Monella]

Atheists believe against Judeo/Christian religion and for anything that opposes it.

[Asker]

I just discovering this world.. but I guess I know more then I think I will know... however what I wanted to say... I came to the conclutions that all it's in contradictorium and opposite... like why damn doesn't exist something outside of this fight... or I don't know , but how do you see

[mysteriousNicholas]

They likely think not much of it as just another superstition of hogwash :( shrug

[Anonymous]

Not all the atheist believe in that.
But those who do...
it's because those occult things are less unrealistic.

[Asker]

The end was specifically important and useful.. I appreciated.. but do you think that truth set someone free

[Opinion Owner]

The truth about the occult?
I suppose it's possible.
I like parapsychology.

[Asker]

Well by setting free... I meant.. so what to do about as an atheist

[Opinion Owner]

As an atheist, yes, the truth can set you free to think what you like, without any religious dogma.

[Asker]

Yes but if religions have dogmas then what's occult then.. what occult have... And didn't your world view become more problematic , chaotic and with dilemmas.. by having "that truth " about occults

[Opinion Owner]

Occult can be studied in scientific way (parapsychology).
Science usually solves most dilemmas.

[Asker]

It's said that is pseudo science.. so like let's consider it.. but at the same time if not.. then how and by who practically it is proved... and what is proved in this context of the occult but also just in general?

[Opinion Owner]

It's a scientific discipline, some scientists like it, others dismiss it.
Parapsychology area of research is explained in here: https://www.britannica.com/topic/parapsychology

[Asker]

I hope you don't mind if to go over the scientific titles... because like as I asked still. it's not clear for me how and who practically proved... and what Exactly they proved.. what was proved in this context of the occupt but also in general.. what's the opinions about it from scriencets if to call them like that.. and what they find out different comparing with religions... and do any religions was right about the occult or that entire phenomena not in contratriu with religion.. but just by itself... I don't know what tbh to ask more.. that's why I'm asking this shit

[Opinion Owner]

Most religions were imposed by force. Believing in occult is not, you choose what to believe or not.
But of course, nobody should naively believe in just about anything.
Use logic, what's more likely to exist, and what's less likely.
God = Omnipotence paradox, Evil paradox, violates all laws of nature (physics, chemistry, biology).
Ghosts - Essence of human mind in energy form (released bio-electric impulses).
Telepathy, Telekinesis etc - Power of human mind.
Reincarnation - Human mind is a form of energy, and we all know that energy never disappears, it only changes form.