Because it's such a vague term. The dictionary definition is "believing men and women should have equal rights" which applies to the majority of people. But feminist could also apply to someone who believes in all the theory behind it (e. g. patriarchy, rape culture, man spreading etc.) and the two are not the same.
The problem for me, is how do you differentiate a feminist? When one says something that seems reasonable one moment then is bashing the patriarchy the next it's hard for an outsider to tell where one begins and the other ends.
the statistic that says women make $0.70 for every $1 a male makes wasn't comparing men and women doing the same job. It was based on comparing the AVERAGE pay of all men and the AVERAGE pay of all women.
And that's the problem with feminism in general: when they march out their horses, they tend to fail close inspection.
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However, I will agree that feminism, at times (and depending upon the type) has done some good for women. But it is definitely not a spotless movement, and it is often times misleading and misrepresents facts.
who promptly was scorned as a hypocrite for saying men should be less aggressive... and a few years earlier, was quoted saying she doubted she's date British men again, as they were not bold enough.
Thing is, you'll have to work hard to find someone who says men and women shouldn't have equal rights, etc.
But, we're past that. Due to their nature, women and whiners are never happy. Now we're into things where "man spreading" aka not sitting with your knees tucked together like a girl, is an actual issue. We're at the point where if two drunk people hook up, the drunk man can be arrested for "raping" the drunk woman, because women are not adults.
i think they are all the same every time i say something like most of the time men are physically stronger then women [fact] there is always some bitch telling me i deserve to die for that comment and im the reason they hate being female yada yada yada
i hear a lot of stories about how females want to be treated like men then refuse to do a job any normal joe would do like lifting heavy things an putting it in a truck an they always say 'thats a mans job'
Only if it was as simple as that :') Note:If a political/social movement claims they want equality between certain groups of people, that doesn't justify their every action. Feminists get hated for their action, not for their self proclaimed goals
Law against "mansprading" on train, special scholarships and programs to get more women in education even though women outnumbered men in education long time ago, protests to get people fired (for making jokes about women and stuff), demanding censorship to prevent people from criticising feminism, complaining about stupid stuff such as video games. I can't remember all but feminists these days do a lot of crazy things. Few weeks ago a feminist said that all men should be put in camps to be "civilised".
you're right, they're all forms of feminism, the point was to show that not ALL feminists are the generalized "crazy oppressive" ones.. It's like political parties... they're all political parties, but with different platforms.
They might not be all the same but they are very nasty to a lot of men that I see and not particularly nice people. But that's just by looking at them on twitter. I'm pleased to say I don't know any feminists in person.
It is no longer possible to make any valid distinction between different types of feminists. ANY person who supports feminism today does nothing more than give credence to and provide a platform for sexist feminazis to propagate their sexism and hatred for males. Any woman who identifies as a feminist is guilty just the same as the next. The time has come to wake up to that reality.
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Of course we are not the same, great take.
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in my opinion if she want equal salary then she should pay in the dates, if she want equality in the relation then she has to do equal work outside as well and finally if she want to ask for the equality then women have to start going to border and fight with enemy. she is wearing men clothes then allow the men to wear women's.
uhh.. salary has nothing to do with dates biologically, women aren't as physically strong. but aren't many nurses women? men can wear women clothes. why not?
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thank you for this. every time i say i ma a feminist, i end up having to explain my beliefs every freaking time
Because it's such a vague term. The dictionary definition is "believing men and women should have equal rights" which applies to the majority of people. But feminist could also apply to someone who believes in all the theory behind it (e. g. patriarchy, rape culture, man spreading etc.) and the two are not the same.
OK good to know. Now run along. @Riverock
I'd imagine you're great at explaining your beliefs.
The problem for me, is how do you differentiate a feminist? When one says something that seems reasonable one moment then is bashing the patriarchy the next it's hard for an outsider to tell where one begins and the other ends.
the statistic that says women make $0.70 for every $1 a male makes wasn't comparing men and women doing the same job. It was based on comparing the AVERAGE pay of all men and the AVERAGE pay of all women.
Wage gap has been debunked numerous times. Just saying.
www.stlouisfed.org/.../Gender-Wage-Gap-May-Be-Much-Smaller-Than-Most-Think
And that's the problem with feminism in general: when they march out their horses, they tend to fail close inspection.
However, I will agree that feminism, at times (and depending upon the type) has done some good for women. But it is definitely not a spotless movement, and it is often times misleading and misrepresents facts.
If anything , women are overtaking men in income. This myth comes from the fact that women are more likely to work part time around family commitments
The term isn't salvageable... wake up. "Feminist/Feminism" is a bad word if you are a woman and have desire for male company. That's reality.
unless you're emma watson
who promptly was scorned as a hypocrite for saying men should be less aggressive... and a few years earlier, was quoted saying she doubted she's date British men again, as they were not bold enough.
lol she's under fire now for stating that best feminists are men...
It's a simple "let's have men do our work for us" thing.
Thing is, you'll have to work hard to find someone who says men and women shouldn't have equal rights, etc.
But, we're past that. Due to their nature, women and whiners are never happy. Now we're into things where "man spreading" aka not sitting with your knees tucked together like a girl, is an actual issue. We're at the point where if two drunk people hook up, the drunk man can be arrested for "raping" the drunk woman, because women are not adults.
wait what? could you explain
-"man spreading" aka not sitting with your knees tucked together like a girl
-women are not adults.
If a drunk couple hook up, many universities and police agencies will accept rape claims and prosecute that the woman was raped.
i think they are all the same every time i say something like most of the time men are physically stronger then women [fact] there is always some bitch telling me i deserve to die for that comment and im the reason they hate being female yada yada yada
i hear a lot of stories about how females want to be treated like men then refuse to do a job any normal joe would do like lifting heavy things an putting it in a truck an they always say 'thats a mans job'
and a lot of the time feminists will attack males then when they are attacked back they dont understand why
because they are 'girls'
Isn't the term feminazi used now to talk about those "kill all men" types? I'm a feminist and I use that word often.
That's how I've always used it...
You guys are dicks, why wouldn't you want equal rights, what am i missing
Also realize we are in first world countries
huh? lol i do support equality
Only if it was as simple as that :')
Note:If a political/social movement claims they want equality between certain groups of people, that doesn't justify their every action. Feminists get hated for their action, not for their self proclaimed goals
@MashedPotato but whay about like, civil rights movement and stuff? I dont understand how it doesn't justify their actions, examples?
Law against "mansprading" on train, special scholarships and programs to get more women in education even though women outnumbered men in education long time ago, protests to get people fired (for making jokes about women and stuff), demanding censorship to prevent people from criticising feminism, complaining about stupid stuff such as video games. I can't remember all but feminists these days do a lot of crazy things. Few weeks ago a feminist said that all men should be put in camps to be "civilised".
@MashedPotato kind of wird to see an 17 year old bring FAR more educated than a 19 year old. Kudos, dude
These don't seem like different brands of feminism, rather different goals.
you're right, they're all forms of feminism, the point was to show that not ALL feminists are the generalized "crazy oppressive" ones..
It's like political parties... they're all political parties, but with different platforms.
Semantics, semantics.
@RachelBrigs but... but i love nitpicking semantics!
They might not be all the same but they are very nasty to a lot of men that I see and not particularly nice people. But that's just by looking at them on twitter. I'm pleased to say I don't know any feminists in person.
twitter can be funny-extreme :P
It is no longer possible to make any valid distinction between different types of feminists. ANY person who supports feminism today does nothing more than give credence to and provide a platform for sexist feminazis to propagate their sexism and hatred for males. Any woman who identifies as a feminist is guilty just the same as the next. The time has come to wake up to that reality.
Of course we are not the same, great take.
in my opinion if she want equal salary then she should pay in the dates, if she want equality in the relation then she has to do equal work outside as well and finally if she want to ask for the equality then women have to start going to border and fight with enemy. she is wearing men clothes then allow the men to wear women's.
What the fuck? Go to the border to fight the enemy?
uhh..
salary has nothing to do with dates
biologically, women aren't as physically strong. but aren't many nurses women?
men can wear women clothes. why not?
here we go...
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Thanks Obama!
It's Obama's fault 😂
I realize they are not all the same, people like to generalize to validate their points.
Which group do you think the unisex movement falls under? Is that radical?
Egalitarian, which is what someone that actually believed in equal rights would be.
It is all the same. An evil ideology designed to destroy marriage and keep poisoning relations between men and women until we die out.
LOL okay XD
The only nice feminists are the ones who insist they they aren't feminists
I'll probably get yelled at for this.
But true dat.
Not going to even read the comments in this one. They just completely ruin the mood.
Different they maybe but wrong the opposite direction of them I will regardless.