Why Guys Should Stand Up Against Feminism

[Anonymous]

Guys stand up against these feminist women because

1. Feminism is letting women think okay to be promiscuous. They think it's empowering but really those women have no self respect. Then they complain about pick up artists dumping them. It's their own doing.

2. Women think motherhood is degrading, but then have a kid put in daycare for someone else to care for it. If you ask me the kid ends up being the loser in this situation.

Besides that it seems to me modern feminism:

- is trying to make women look like they do nothing wrong,

- and just want power over men.

What at about guys are they going to have less rights in the future because of feminism?

[QuestionMan]

Luckily you didn't write too much so debunking your bs will be easy.

1. Feminism is letting women think okay to be promiscuous.
This is a good thing. Not only have men been waiting for a long time for women to be more open about sex but this also allows women to go out and enjoy their lives instead of living like a nun. Sex isn't some evil force. It is a natural desire of all human beings. Feminism has liberated women from being forced to wait until marriage to be with some guy who may not even be that great in bed while at the same time allowed for men to have more sex than ever before.

Who women chose to date is their business. There's always a risk of being in a bad relationship. Who are you to tell them otherwise?

2. Women think motherhood is degrading
No, they just have jobs and can't spend the time taking care of the kid. The daycare provides a service for the child while the mother earns money that could be spent on the child such as clothing or toys.

Besides that it seems to me modern feminism:

- is trying to make women look like they do nothing wrong,
- and just want power over men.

That's feminazism not feminism. Feminism strives to achieve equal rights for women when they are in an environment that is male dominated. Feminism no longer has a place in the West since it has already succeeded. Feminazism is the doctrine that women must be in control since a matriarchal state in which men are oppressed is better that the current "patriarchal" system.

[GreatnessPersonified]

"1. Feminism is letting women think okay to be promiscuous.
This is a good thing. "

When you grow up, we'll talk.

[QuestionMan]

@GreatnessPersonified Not everyone wants a traditional woman like you do.

[GreatnessPersonified]

HAHAHAHAAH!!!
So, you're saying, I can do your girl also, and everyone else on GAG, even the girls. That's cool.

[QuestionMan]

@GreatnessPersonified I never said that.
Non-traditional doesn't necessarily mean that I'd let my girlfriend get gang banned by strangers. Everyone has their own view on relationships. I personally prefer a girl that has had experience over a virgin prude saving herself for marriage.

[OpenClose]

"When you grow up, we'll talk. "

Sounds like someone doesn't like girls who want sex.

I, on the other hand, am a straight guy who finds sex amazing. I prefer to date a girl who actually wants it, acknowledges it in herself, is open about it, and doesn't see it as some exploitation of her by me.

[QuestionMan]

@OpenClose You get it :)
@GreatnessPersonified

[GreatnessPersonified]

You know there are more type than those two.

[GreatnessPersonified]

@OpenClose In that I don't see you saying promiscuous is a good thing, which was my original point.
Promiscuity is the practice of having casual sex frequently with different partners or being indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners. As @QuestionMan said above, he doesn't want that.

Do you want that?

[LovelyDisquiet]

@GreatnessPersonified Obviously, no one is going to want to SETTLE down with a promiscuous partner.

These guys are just saying they won't judge them for struggles/life lessons learned in the past.

If a girl is promiscuous, she's obviously not looking for a relationship. But there's no point in judging someone who used to be promiscuous now that she's done with that chapter in her life. ... which I believe is their point.

Same here. I would marry a man who's slept with a ton of women in the past, as long as now, he's learned to be a devoted, loving, caring man.

[takumii]

Then you would not have any problem marrying a Rapist / Terrorist / Murderer , because what they have done in the past. You won't judge them bcause of the struggles / lessons learnt in life, would you?

[takumii]

@LovelyDisquiet

[QuestionMan]

@takumii There's a huge difference between being a criminal and having fun.

[takumii]

The distinction is only man-made , rest assure that they all lie on the same road.

[LovelyDisquiet]

@takumii If they were a different person now? No.

Obviously, I'd be more wary at first. As someone who'd go to those lengths isn't usually a person who could change.

But we aren't talking about murderers here, we're talking about promiscuity. Quite a huge difference, don't you think?

[takumii]

@LovelyDisquiet Who gets to decide if they changed or not? You? Even the court gives them the benefit of the doubt, why can't you?
Just trying to find some consistency in your point.

[QuestionMan]

@takumii A murderer has committed the worst crime imaginable and you want to compare that to promiscuity which is just a person having fun and not hurting anyone?

[takumii]

Don't jump in on discussions mate, it's creates confusions, and if you read, I already said, the distinction is man made, and the 'worst' for you may not be the 'worst' for others.. That's why some people tend to commit suicide after heartbreaks.. because for them heartbreaks are the 'worst'.

[QuestionMan]

@takumii Heartbreak is an emotional state that heals over time, if counselling is required than that person can seek it. Murder takes the most precious thing away from a human being, their life. Our lives are finite that is what makes them so precious. Murder has a great impact on all those around both the murderer and the victim while in a break up it is usually only one person that gets hurt and even so only emotionally.

[takumii]

I am not here to argue which is worse heartbreak or murder.. I already stated it is subjective, address the point rather than talking about the constraints.

[rcmp1234]

its not a good thing for women to be promiscuous. Just because its their choice doesn't make it the right choice. If a girl is going to sleep with a different guy every day, well, to be honest, no guy would take her seriously given her past history.

[LovelyDisquiet]

@rcmp1234 As long as you uphold those same standards for yourself. That's fine I suppose.

Personally, I wouldn't "not" love someone if they were once promiscuous.

[rcmp1234]

@LovelyDisquiet all I'm saying is that as guys we generally put girls we are attracted to into one of two categories - 'girls who we want to be in a relationship with' and 'the girls we want to have a quick hook up with'. A promiscous girl is automatically going to be put into the second category. If a girl is not looking for a relationship then by all means she can do whatever she want. But if she does at some point want to be in a relationship, then she shouldn't be too surprised when she finds out that she's been used for sex and disappeared on.

[RJGraveyTrain]

This... this, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis ^

[Metlahaed]

@rcmp1234 This whole conversation was retarded.

[CanaanAshes]

I believe that there are two different versions of feminism.
The real
and the fake.
The real reason for feminism is to fight for EQUAL rights between men and women.
I consider myself a feminist but some of my best friends are male.
There are many twisted views on feminism and yes, some "feminists" do act in the way you've stated. But the sole reason for feminism is to make sure that BOTH genders are being treated equally. So stand up against the fake feminists but those who are actual feminists just want equality, not domination.

[Sasha_Kotelenets]

There is no such thing as "fake feminists." If someone identifies as a feminist, then they are a feminist. Period.

[RationalLioness]

Canaan, I would like to caution you from committing the No True Scotsman fallacy. A rabid irrational Feminist is still a Feminist. And a Feminist essentially is a proponent for women's rights.

That does not mean that a Feminist cannot be for men's rights which a lot of people foolishly believe is mutually exclusive. But there are many kinds of Feminists: those who are for women's rights only, for both gender's rights, and those who fight for rights for everyone beyond gender (like LBGTQ).

[AdamThomas]

Feminism is anti-family and anti-marriage, it always has been.

"The nuclear family must be destroyed , and people must find better ways of living together. Whatever it's ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process. Families have supported oppression by separating people into small, isolated units, unable to join together to fight for common interests." -Linda Gordon

It is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" - The Declaration of Feminism , November 1971.

"No women should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Women should not have that choice, because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one" -Simone De Beauvoir

"We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage. " -Robin Morgan

"The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it" -Margeret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood

"In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them." -Dr. Mary Jo Bane

"Only when manhood is dead - and it will perish when ravaged femininity no longer sustains it - only then will we know what it is to be free." - Andrea Dworkin

Many more feminist anti-family quotes here: https://www.whale.to/a/quotes_by_feminists.html

They encourage women to sleep around rather than commit (studies have shown that women who sleep around are more likely to divorce), have abortions when they accidentally get pregnant, tell them that spending their time earning money while a stranger raises their kids is better than enjoying their time with their own kids (because enjoying time with your kids = slavery), offer benefits to single Mothers practically incentivizing single-Motherhood, and emasculate men.

Not only will men have less rights, women will have less rights too, and so will children. See the Simone De Beauvoir and the Dr. Mary Jo Bane quote. It's all about control.

[RationalLioness]

Giving people a choice of how they want to live their life is not either of those. And to stupidly assume that all Feminists feel the same way when some do shows that you lack common sense.

[93stepsawayfromhome]

— "Guys stand up against these feminist women"

Use commas. This sentence means that guys already stand up against feminists, so there is no need for the take.

— "Feminism is letting women think okay to be promiscuous"

In the end, the woman herself is still the one and only person to decide whom she has sex with and how frequently she has sex with different partners.

Also, feminism does not teach women to be promiscuous at all. It just encourages equality to men and fighting for that. That doesn't mean being promiscuous.

— "They think it's empowering but really those women have no self respect"

That is your opinion. You have no say in others' lives.

— "Women think motherhood is degrading, but then have a kid put in daycare for someone else to care for it"

What? How is that remotely something feminism fights for? Feminism does fight for not letting the woman raise the child alone, but that doesn't mean they find motherhood to be degrading. In fact, not at all.

— "Besides that it seems to me modern feminism:
- is trying to make women look like they do nothing wrong,
- and just want power over men."

This paragraph just does not make sense grammatically, because I can reformat it into two sentences by getting rid of the bullet list:

=> "Besides that it seems to me modern feminism is trying to make women look like they do nothing wrong."
=> "Besides that it seems to me modern feminism and just want power over men."

I don't know what language that last sentence is in. Maybe first learn how bullet lists work if you're going to use one.

— "modern feminism is trying to make women look like they do nothing wrong"

There's a difference between feminism and feminazism. This is feminazism. Any "she's a woman, blah blah, it's not a crime" excuse is obviously bullshit. But using your gender as an excuse is not part of feminism. Of course I don't support that. What male would support a movement that promotes killing all males?

— "modern feminism is trying to make women look like they […] just want power over men" (I assume you meant this, because, as stated before, your formatting makes no sense)

Again. Feminazism. This is not why the feminist movement was started.

— "What at about guys are they going to have less rights in the future because of feminism?"

This isn't a sentence either, but I'll just try to dissect the meaning — we're going to have less rights? Isn't it positive to do away with all the sexist laws, including those that favour men?

[OpenClose]

Here are my thoughts on your thoughts.

1. Honestly, I'm in favor of girls wanting more sex. Supposedly, women's libido is about as strong as men's, it's just triggered by totally different things.

What should happen instead is that guys raise their standards on personality. This will start crumbling the traditional dating/sex structure where women are the "supply" and men are the "demand" who must prove themselves while demanding little from her.

2. Oh, definitely. Rather, they consider it a position someone is forced into. When they find a lot of women would want to be mothers, they assume people were "conditioned" that way. Instead of making motherhood look so bad, make fatherhood look good. It looks like shit now, too. Fatherhood is always portrayed as deadbeat dads, dads who were never there, drunken dads who beat up the wife and kids. Maybe if being a dad looked better, we could balance things out a little better.

"is trying to make women look like they can do nothing wrong"

Yup. Though many strides have been made in terms of recognizing female abusers, though this usually comes merely as a response to people calling them out on it. There is a push towards "guilty until proven innocent" for guys in a lot of cases.

Also, while Chris Brown was getting destroyed for abusing his girlfriend, what we didn't hear much about was Emma Roberts abusing her boyfriend. Basically, Chris Brown was a "thug" and Emma Roberts was "Probably defending herself". The double standard of scrutiny is outrageous between a supposed male abuser and a supposed female abuser.

"Want power over men"

Actually, I don't really see it that way. It's more like they have become as regressive in their gender roles as those they are supposedly fighting. The idea that men destroy everything and that women are victims of everything is not new; rather, it IS the old gender role. Women were treated essentially as children: Restrictions on their freedoms, restrictions on their voices, kept out of many responsibilities, etc. That's why it was always "women and children first", because they were seen as innocent as children. Any slights must have been a man's doing. That's where I think a lot of the dialogue has become more gender0regressive than anything. I'm more gender-progressive than that.

[Anonymous]

Totally agree. Here are some reasons why I don't need feminism:
I don't need feminism because when I am a feminist I am considered "oppressed and special" but when I am against it I am a "dumb cis privileged white girl"
I don't need feminism because I don't blame men for my actions
I don't need feminism because they pay gap depends on a woman's choice. Not sexism.
I don't need feminism because I care about men and don't ignore their problems.
I don't need feminism because "female empowerment" implies that I'm currently inherently weak
I don't need feminism because I don't need to fight for rights that I already have
I don't need feminism because I want actual equality not entitlements and supremacy.
I don't need feminism because men's problems matter just as much as mine and playing victim is not empowering.
I don't need feminism because the patriarchy doesn't exist and there is no rape culture
I don't need feminism because feminisim is a hate movement and feminists have told me to kill myself, threatened me, and told me I was raised by the "patriarchy."
I don't need feminism because when I bring up the threats they say to me they say "not all feminists are like that" instead of "I'm sorry"
I don't need feminism because I don't think being a woman is a disadvantage
I don't need feminism because the 1 in 4 rape statistic was proven to be a myth and the study was discredited several times.
Lastly... I don't need feminism because it has turned from a movement about equality into a hateful, sexist, corrupt group that disregards people's issues due to "privilege"

[RationalLioness]

1) Why should YOUR opinion have any hold over another individual's life? If a woman wants to sleep with 500 people, she should have the right--the same that men do.

Whether an individual thinks it's okay or not does NOT matter. It's about having the same rights as everyone else instead of being demeaned.

Similar to the people who say "Gays shouldn't marry" because that particular individual feels that they shouldn't... your fucking opinion does not hold any power over someone else's life. Worry about yours.

2) If a woman does not want to be a mother, she should have the choice and does. THAT is what Feminism did: gave women a choice. It's not degrading motherhood. Many women would NOT be good mothers and know this (you shouldn't think about breeding as well due to your close-mindedness).

3) Women gaining rights that we never had does not mean that men lose rights AT ALL. Men are still in the same place that they were in Pre-Feminism and it's time for them to gain some rights as well.

Stop being foolish.

[LuckyLittleLucy]

Hmmmm... Okay what's this HUGE problem with promiscuity? There are 3 meanings:
1. Having or characterized by many transient (impermanent) sexual relationships.
2. Demonstrating or implying an unselective approach; indiscriminate or casual.
3. Consisting of a wide range of different things.
We'll assume the first meaning is the one you're referring to. this means women are having casual sex... And the problem with that is? Nothing. People like to synonimise "promiscuous" with "cheater" and that's not true. Having casual sex does not mean that you are less of a person, or less able to form a committed relationship if/when you choose to.
Sure, there are some damaging forms of feminism that many now call Feminazism, but you're not separating the two, and that is fatal error. So, yes stand up to Feminazism. No, don't stand up to true Feminism as this is one of the schemes supporting young women like Malala Yousafzai and other girls who deserve equal rights to an education etc. There is a significant difference.

[Vesuvius87]

I would hope that if you're against promiscuous behaviors this includes being against promiscuity in both genders, not just women. If you're only focusing on how wrong it's for women to be promiscuous but have no problems if a guy sleeps around, then there is no point to your argument.

Otherwise, whether someone wants to have casual sex, wait till marriage or a relationship, have threesomes, etc that's really their decision they make and no one really have any rights to tell them how to live their life. I personally want to wait for a relationship because I've never had casual sex and expect the same from a man but it wouldn't be any of my business to get involve in other people's live and dictate how they should live because according to you ''they're not respecting themselves''.

Secondly, what would be wrong with being a mother after graduating from college and working at a stable job? It's wise to have two incomes instead of just one.

[DBAOracle]

@Vesuvius87 "Secondly, what would be wrong with being a mother after graduating from college and working at a stable job? It's wise to have two incomes instead of just one. " Ehh, if only it was that easy. What about the children?

[Vesuvius87]

@DBAOracle so I should just give up my major entirely and the time I've spend studying would be a total waste of time? I believe there is time for everything.

[Vesuvius87]

My parents both work full time when I was kid.

[DBAOracle]

@Vesuvius87 Why would a mother or/and a father be fully developed first before having children? The foundation of any family is the father and mother, the children are what you build. A solid foundation is a must for successful development. In your case, I'm not sure if you have children already or not but, in both cases, no you shouldn't give up your major at all... I'm never the person who tells you to leave education. If you don't have children, please wait until you finish your education and then consider it if you want. If you do have children, the choice of building a foundation first is already gone so, as of now, still go ahead and finish your education so you can be able to get a higher paying job. If you do have children and the father is around and is employed, I don't believe it's right for the father and the mother to be working because when both of you work full-time or part-time, the children are also neglected full-time or part-time.

[DBAOracle]

Why wouldn't* a mother or/and a father be fully developed first before having children?

[Vesuvius87]

I'm currently single and nope don't have kids. As for both working part-time, it really depends on their schedule. My mother's full time job at a HS cafeteria was actually very early in the morning and she would return in the afternoon while my father many times would worked the night shift at a hotel parking cars.

[Vesuvius87]

thanks for clearing it out and yes, I agree... that makes sense

[DBAOracle]

@Vesuvius87 When I stated both parents working full-time, I was thinking more of the typical 9AM to 5PM job, should've made this clear, my apologies. In my personal opinion, and no offense intended at all, even though your parents' schedule worked out in the sense of always having someone with the children, I don't think it works out for them as a couple. In a schedule like that, as soon as the mother comes back from work, the father leaves for work and comes back as the mother is leaving. I believe that one of the main causes of divorce in the current society is because as soon as the mother and father get children, they forget that they're a couple and need time to solidify their relationship as well. It's really hard work raising a family and unfortunately, the definition of family in lots of people's minds is just children.

[jjmarvin]

1. It IS ok to be promiscuous

2. No they don't. They think people telling them what to do is degrading. I feel it. I don't like that either.

I'm not threatened by feminists, I'm threatened by people who want you to think they are. But I'm not so threatened that I'm going to hinder a civil rights movement to not have to deal with radicals. That's just stupid.

[Ginnyweasley97]

i am just going to leave this here. Hopefully you can read it, it does have a lot of pixels.
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[hellionthesage]

you should research more. as that letter pointed out women couldn't vote of course it doesn't acknowledge that men only got the right to vote 70 years before women and that was only because they where drafted into war against their will, a responsibility women never had. So many inaccuracies, in fact feminism has been pushing for a very one sided view of hisory and of society since the begining.

[Ginnyweasley97]

@hellisonthestage oh you again. Sure let's go with that.

[Ginnyweasley97]

Hahahahahahaha I love males especially my boyfriend. Yeah I will make sure to burn it. Which is ironic I am a third year culinary student. @altair212

[DBAOracle]

@Ginnyweasley97 LOL, did you seriously tamper hellionthesage as hellisonthestage or you just read it wrong? Because that was pretty funny.. hahaha.

[Azara]

@hellionthesage

historically more women have die in the warfare of child birth , than men have died in war. women risk their lives every time they bring a life into the world.

the function of not being able to vote is depoliticization, the duration is not the point, though 70 years is hardly insignificant. lets have you banned from voting for your lifetime. see how reasonable you think it is.

[Luci92]

@altair212 can we not play the blame game and take a chill pill? She has a point, and so does @Azara too.

[pnl86]

Sometimes, you just need to give some women a shovel and let them keep digging their own grave.

Don't forget that hindsight is 20/20.

When white people tried to argue, rationlize, or justify white supremacy, black inferiority, automatic "sympathy" and "leniency" for white people, but automatic "blame" and "suspicion" for black people.

The effect was long-lasting, but look at the corrective back-lash (affirmative action, "diversity" programs, and reverse discrimination).

Let feminists keep pushing for the automatic "victim" card and "sympathy" towards women... blamelessness, absolved of all responsibility... good... not a bad, evil, selfish bone in their body... and how men are so bad... automatically guilty and blameworthy... undeserving of any sympathy... who should be ASHAMED for how they behave, communicate, or even think!

I say, don't take any action against feminists... just let them keep digging.

[Octavius]

Feminism has become a word that basically means whatever the user of it wants it to mean. Many people who do identify themselves as feminists truly do want equality between men and women and care just about shit problems guys face as much as the problems women face. And yes there are many people who identify as feminists that just want to take a piss on men. You don't need to take a stand against feminism. It's just a word. Just stand up against assholes that think they're better than others because of physical characteristics.

[M_A_X]

No, feminism is a word that represents a group, and guess what? Some of you are insane and they make the whole group look bad. This is why it's best not to hide behind groups and be a damn individual

[Octavius]

@M_A_X "Some of you" what are you referring to?

[ras144]

@M_A_X The exact same thing could be said about anti-feminist groups, who have given me quite a few rape threats and degrading messages.

[M_A_X]

@ras144 It sounds like both sides have their own ways of bullshitting and attacking the other verbally. No one side is ever always right, which is why you don't join a group.

[ManOnFire]

Good post. I disagree with the political aspect of feminism but not the main definition: rights for women. Feminism is really just a social political group that's just as messed up as the others. It teaches young women that the whole world is out to get them and includes on the demographics of women they WANT to include. To me it's just bologna that's really only relevant in university circles of young women who are insecure about being a woman and want to debate with people.

[RationalLioness]

Oh my God. If I can find a sensible rational male on this site, I would be utterly surprised.

[Elena_the_Star]

Just shutup and go back to the kitchen.
Why do you care if someone wants to enjoy a active and varied sex life? If you had any self respect you would see that self respect does not lie in a woman's vagina.
Do you have any idea how hectic work life is? Probably not. And seeing that most of the parenting falls on a woman its impossible for a woman to be both a mother and working woman if there was no daycare. Some women choose to leave their jobs and that's their choice but you have no right to tell prosperous women who put career first that they are not doing their job right.
You are just a pathetic old bag who wants approval from men because you have no spine. You want male approval? Cook clean and do whatever he tells you in bed.

[heavensgift2girls]

I don't mind there being a female advocacy movement called feminism. I just don't want them to get away with pretending like that movement is about true equality between the genders when they clearly only care about female issues. They need to lose that lie. That way when they start sounding more extreme they won't be able to hide under the assumptions they are fighting for equality, when they clearly are not. As it stands now any feminist can say any sexist thing they want, and pretend it isn't sexist because feminism is supposedly for equity. It is my hope that by losing the idea of them being for equality, the crazier ones will stop being taken as seriously, and the more moderate ones can be heard over the nuts for a change.

I don't care if they want to sleep around, or not be mothers. They can do what they want. All that means is that they are not compatible with me.

[Loligirl]

So do you want to lose your rights to your own body? Do you want to lose your right to vote? Do you want the courts to view rape as "no big thing"? If you want to be viewed by men as anything less than human, by all means keep on doing what you're doing Snowflake.

I swear to good, anti-feminist women really burn my ass. You all need to be either re-educated or have your vaginas sewn shut, seriously.

[myTake Owner]

Whatever you say sweetheart. *shrugs*

[Anonymous]

I think it isn't innately bad to be promiscuous, it's just a matter of being responsible about it.

I'm not sure that women think motherhood is degrading, but feminists have flat out stated that the whole concept of the family is wrong and that breaking them up is a good thing, all as part of a revolution. Scary shit. I've read about alternative "family" models before, but the scary part is how active the radfems can be about destroying things.

Women aren't really missing any rights from what I can see. Except for not wearing a top in most public spaces (I think), is there really any rights that women don't have? We're already there, women do have more rights.

[iamshelly]

Really shocks and upsets me to see fellow women refusing to stand up for one another.

[Stephen10]

Because many women are realizing that feminism is a hoax and a man-hating movement.

[Scrambledagain]

This is a dude posing as a chick, if not, it's one dumb chick.

[myTake Owner]

@Scrambledagain I am not a dude. Okay I admit I can be a dumb chick and not think things threw. 😅

[9mfeo]

*through

[altair212]

She ain't stupid stop chirping people that have the balls to stand up. She's smarter than Ur ugly ass

[Lillianlikesjules]

@Stephen10 It is in no way man hating! Cause real men are also feminists. We just want the same rights as you "men", we want society to give us some respect for all the things we go through to make your sorry asses happy. I wish that men got periods and experienced the emotions and pain that come with it. You would shut up about everything.

[DBAOracle]

@Lillianlikesjules "Cause real men are also feminists" Nope, actually it's real white-knights are also feminists. Regardless, typical feminist shaming tactic here, accusing those that have opposing views to hers as not "real men". "I wish that men got periods and experienced the emotions and pain that come with it. You would shut up about everything. " well, not sorry to tell you that this is never going to happen and since we won't get any periods, we won't shut up about anything... keep hating. :P

[Sasha_Kotelenets]

No becuase I know that feminism is a hateful, sexist, and corrupt movement that disregards people's issues due to "privilege."

[LovelyDisquiet]

@Stephen10 Oh! Hey! You're the stupid guy who blocks anyone who disagree's with your questions/mytakes!

[Berethor]

Feminists trying to have the cake and eat it too, many of them want to be promiscuous, without getting an promiscuous reputation, it's just don't work that way. As for motherhood, women that think only about career and money are very likely to do so as the cost of their family life.

[Vesuvius87]

So I should not go to college at school, never think of the future (esp if I want to have a child; I need to provide for him/her) and just reply my luck on someone else's hard effort and money?

[Berethor]

Feminists will always try to distort an man's words. Did I said that women should not go college and/or work? or is it yet another feminist fantasy? I know plenty of examples of feminists that completely forsaken their family life, because of their obsession with career and feminism, so "keep up good work" feminism. Where is the last time that you check your biological clock? or do you think that with the "feminist superpowers" most women can still have an children at the late thirties or even at forties? I believe that housewives had choose better then career women that who had remained alone, without husband and without children, also I was not saying that it's impossible for an woman to have both career and children, only that it's very hard to have them both, and that is why many career women, and especially the feminists among them are sacrificing their motherhood and womanhood for the "feminist ideal" and capitalism.

[Vesuvius87]

My teenaged brother was born when my mother was 36 years old and he's a healthy child. Yes, it's still possible. If I'm not mistaken, a woman can now pay to get her eggs freeze for later use.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oocyte_cryopreservation

I'm not depressed at being in my late 20's to be honest. If there isn't another way, there is always the method of adoption (the advantage is I wouldn't get to deal with childbirth pain).

[Berethor]

Then your mother had an miracle, at the age of 36 it's much harder to give an birth, and to have an child without defects. Yes it's possibly to freeze aggs and sperm, but how many people are really going for it? and even if an women do it, still being as old mom is not so great. As for adoption, don't make me laugh, you would know by now that most people prefer to have an biological children.

[Anonymous]

Feminism is trying to defy hormones, dna and natural biological differences men and women have. It ultimately makes both men AND women confused and miserable.

The biggest I gripe I have about feminism is its insidious grip on public education. Young boys and girls are being taught PC/slanted lesson plans that are manipulated by feminist women women who usually gravitate towards public education. This has resulted in a new generation of passive, pleasing "nice guys" that no women truly wants or respects (I know because I used to be one).

[Azara]

really? feminists have control over the public school system. wow. thats impressive, i guess if they were ';wrong' they would not have control. at least thats the argument used to justly male control. consistency,

so how were by taught before feminists. like when women couldn't go to school. what was the boy centric model of teaching then?

[ithinkyoulike]

As a feminist it means equality the same standing for men and women . There needs to be the same standard expectation for men and women and cases of means legal invitations for nothing women the equal salary a men. Like custody child custody is typically Won Women that's got to change other things men need to win more. .

[heavensgift2girls]

That is literally not the definition of a feminist. A feminist is a women's advocate. Not a human or men's advocate. Therefore they can not possibly stand for true equality.

[ithinkyoulike]

feminist= a person who supports feminism.
feminism = the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

[heavensgift2girls]

How does a person support feminism? By the advocacy of "women's'" rights. Therefore a feminist is a person that advocates for women. That much is obvious.

[ithinkyoulike]

@heavensgift2girls equality to men.

[Stephen10]

The hidden agenda of feminism is to destroy the family. It is not about equality.

[Lillianlikesjules]

Thank you :* You kinda restored some sort of respect i have for men. Stick to your opinion! Feminism means equality, and the people who think otherwise should go back to the 1960s when women were obliged to get credit cards on the husbands names. It would be fun to watch men in serious debt.

[heavensgift2girls]

Women's advocacy to be equal to men in the areas where women are not currently equal to men. It is not men's advocacy to be equal to women in the areas where men are not currently equal to women. If it is an advocacy movement that only focuses on one gender, then it is only tackling half of the problem in terms of solving the equality issue. Only a movement that advocate for both genders to be equal, can claim to be for true equality. By its own definition, it does not advocate for men so men continue to have their issues ignored.

[ithinkyoulike]

@heavensgift2girls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg3umXU_qWc

[ithinkyoulike]

www.theguardian.com

/books/2015/dec/04/every-16-year-old-in-sweden-to-receive-copy-of-we-should-all-be-feminists

[heavensgift2girls]

There is no way I am watching a 30 minutes video just because you don't understand what a feminist is. Lol By their own definition they only advocate for women. Some people that call themselves feminists might advocate for men as well, but that is not a part of feminism.