I guess I'm the weird person who doesn't necessarily believe a person should do this, but feel everyone has a right to be happy. If this makes him happy, then go on and do it. Who am I to judge?
I think, not that anything is wrong with transgendered individuals, that the rise of trans people is a push back against traditional gender roles, that boys should do a, b, c and girls should do x, y, z so when a person doesn't fit that mold, they change themselves, I think we as a society need to change the implied meanings of what it is to be male or female
Some say the meaning of life is being happy. So good for your brother he is happy after all. Lucky for him he lives in a part of the world where it's all accepted.
I'm transgender and I knew I was the wrong gender when I was really young before my father died (I was 4) my mother sais I was the happiest child till then but she could remember my father getting angry when ge saw me playing with girls or asking for barbies...
@GreedyGiver because you can always get another spouse, and another job. but once you a man takes female hormones his chances of prostate cancer increase dramatically. also bye bye bone density, increased risk of osteoporosis is just too damaging to ones health.
Crossdressing (gender-based behavior) does not necessitate the urge to 'transition' (official term) between sexes. And vice versa, actually. Humans are such complex creatures...
I believe that is a reference specifically to the decision of the American Psychological Association in 2012 as they made the decision to just lump it all together (hence the term "transition" which never existed prior nor needed to) after declaring it no longer a mental illness. I think it was 2012...
Its a mental illness.. science recognizes it as such. But since the only way at that time they knew to treat it was allowing them to transition. I do know nueroscience has been working on a therapy for them that doesn't include transitioning. We know now the brain constantly changes , so this is a break through for science. It basically solidifies what so many have been saying for years, we control the brain not the other way around.
Neurosciences in general do not dictate what is and is not a mental illness. There are multiple reasons but one of the largest is that not all mental illnesses leave a neurological trace. Sometimes the neurological change is secondary such as a phobia which is acquired through traumatizing events. The phobia wasn't "latent" in the brain.
the problem with what your saying is nueroscience. ... is the brain being seen literally like never before. Modern technology is amazing and we see the brain down to every little piece. We see chambers that have never been seen before nuerotransmitters.. etc Ever heard or nueromarketing and advertisement. That is the future of media... its like todays media times a million. It will take everything they know about the brains of the sexes and incorporate into brains washing you essentially. It used to be psychology but neruscience is replacing it.
For now, let us say you're right, if but not to avoid a prolonged conversation that is further and further away from the original claim that transsexualism is not transgenderism. As the APA has changed the term to be all encompassing I shall simply agree that they are the same thing.
@AssJacket: There's a pretty thorough explanation on the wikipedia transgender and transsexual pages. Basically the usage of the terminology is kind of muddled at the moment, but mostly transsexual was commonly used as a term for transgender people who specifcally want to physically transition, but now there's some disagreement about whether to keep it or phase it out or what. Here: en.wikipedia.org/.../Transgender
@AssJacket I mean you can literally just Google the latest things neuroscientist has figures out, Transgenderism is a mental illness like many other things , it's closely related with anorexia and body dysphora ( those who get plastic surgery ) . Any mental illness can be cured. I guess for some it may sound dubious but for someone who took psychology it's sounds very doable.
@somebodysaycheese let me tell you a little about how science works. The one that makes a claim has the burden of proof to support it. If you fail to do so, your claim is illegitimate.
@AssJacket You took psychology cool. Let me tell you how the real world works if your too lazy to Google that's on you I'm not responsible for it, If you don't want to believe t that is really ALL on you but it doesn't take a genius too Google when they are clasp let of GAGing. And gain I took psychology also nueroscience and science ain't shit fyi it's collapsing that you should know too it shaking up the science world recently
@AssJacket You took psychology coo. let me tell you how the real world works if you can GAG you can Google it's not my responsibility to provide information for your this isn't the science world nor am I getting paid for it, I also took psychology and nueroscience and let emotional tell you psychology ain't shit it's collapsing. That you should know if you took psychology.
@somebodysaycheese since you can't provide evidence for your claim, I'm going to go ahead and think you made it up. That's the way this works in the "real world", by the way.
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I guess I'm the weird person who doesn't necessarily believe a person should do this, but feel everyone has a right to be happy. If this makes him happy, then go on and do it. Who am I to judge?
People who feel a need to "change their sex" need therapy and counseling, not surgery.
Lol I'm glad that I'm following you now. We share many of the same beliefs.
I think, not that anything is wrong with transgendered individuals, that the rise of trans people is a push back against traditional gender roles, that boys should do a, b, c and girls should do x, y, z so when a person doesn't fit that mold, they change themselves, I think we as a society need to change the implied meanings of what it is to be male or female
Some say the meaning of life is being happy. So good for your brother he is happy after all. Lucky for him he lives in a part of the world where it's all accepted.
I am happy your brother is now happy being himself. This was a lovely mytake💜
I DON'T CARE HOW YOUR BROTHER FEELS
FEELINGS ARE NOT REALITY
AND YOUR BROTHER DOESN'T MAKE THE RULES
LOL HUMANS
Well your brother/sister was damaded goods which fit the profile.
You said she was adopted
Evert last lgbt person I met has some crazy childhood story then all of sudden there lgbt.
I'm transgender and I knew I was the wrong gender when I was really young before my father died (I was 4) my mother sais I was the happiest child till then but she could remember my father getting angry when ge saw me playing with girls or asking for barbies...
@GreedyGiver somrbing happened to u trust me
feelings are not a good indicator to make like altering changing.
Yet people let their feelings dictate their job choices, their choice in a spouse, ptetty much all their choices... Why should this be any different?
@GreedyGiver because you can always get another spouse, and another job. but once you a man takes female hormones his chances of prostate cancer increase dramatically. also bye bye bone density, increased risk of osteoporosis is just too damaging to ones health.
I can only imagine the horror of desiring to have a whole new body. And I thought wanting longer hair and better skin was something to stress about.
are you talking about your brother or someone else? So confused...
He's kind of like my adopted brother
A very beautiful story
Thank you!
As long as it is what makes him happy I don't see a problem.
It's not political correct to say but transgender sounds like a mental disorder to me.
I feel like most transgendered people wouldn't exist if people weren't so close minded.
Great take
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing this lovely story with us.
everyone... look up Buck Angel.
Turn on family safe search if you go to images js
He/she/it needs therapy and counseling.
This is transsexualism, not transgenderism.
they are the same thing.
They are not.
Crossdressing (gender-based behavior) does not necessitate the urge to 'transition' (official term) between sexes. And vice versa, actually. Humans are such complex creatures...
transexual is an old term. You cannot change you sex so they changed it to transgender.
I believe that is a reference specifically to the decision of the American Psychological Association in 2012 as they made the decision to just lump it all together (hence the term "transition" which never existed prior nor needed to) after declaring it no longer a mental illness. I think it was 2012...
Its a mental illness.. science recognizes it as such. But since the only way at that time they knew to treat it was allowing them to transition. I do know nueroscience has been working on a therapy for them that doesn't include transitioning. We know now the brain constantly changes , so this is a break through for science. It basically solidifies what so many have been saying for years, we control the brain not the other way around.
thinkprogress.org/.../
Tell that to them.
https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx
I dont need to... nueroscience is the future and a lot of people won't be able to handle it. It will be apart of everyday life... literally!
Neurosciences in general do not dictate what is and is not a mental illness. There are multiple reasons but one of the largest is that not all mental illnesses leave a neurological trace. Sometimes the neurological change is secondary such as a phobia which is acquired through traumatizing events. The phobia wasn't "latent" in the brain.
the problem with what your saying is nueroscience. ... is the brain being seen literally like never before. Modern technology is amazing and we see the brain down to every little piece. We see chambers that have never been seen before nuerotransmitters.. etc Ever heard or nueromarketing and advertisement. That is the future of media... its like todays media times a million. It will take everything they know about the brains of the sexes and incorporate into brains washing you essentially. It used to be psychology but neruscience is replacing it.
For now, let us say you're right, if but not to avoid a prolonged conversation that is further and further away from the original claim that transsexualism is not transgenderism. As the APA has changed the term to be all encompassing I shall simply agree that they are the same thing.
You have won your points. Congratulations.
here i though we where having a actual convo... smh Somewhere along the way i guess you got offended.
I am not offended and you did not say anything offensive. I am just tired.
@somebodysaycheese errr... seems dubious. Sources?
@AssJacket: There's a pretty thorough explanation on the wikipedia transgender and transsexual pages. Basically the usage of the terminology is kind of muddled at the moment, but mostly transsexual was commonly used as a term for transgender people who specifcally want to physically transition, but now there's some disagreement about whether to keep it or phase it out or what. Here: en.wikipedia.org/.../Transgender
@cipher42 I was referring to the claim that "neuroscience" can fix transsexualism/transgenderism.
@assjacket: ooh, okay yeah. Definitely does seem dubious. Interesting concept, but I wouldn't believe it without a legit article backing it up.
@AssJacket I mean you can literally just Google the latest things neuroscientist has figures out, Transgenderism is a mental illness like many other things , it's closely related with anorexia and body dysphora ( those who get plastic surgery ) . Any mental illness can be cured. I guess for some it may sound dubious but for someone who took psychology it's sounds very doable.
@somebodysaycheese let me tell you a little about how science works. The one that makes a claim has the burden of proof to support it. If you fail to do so, your claim is illegitimate.
Also, I took psychology as well.
@AssJacket You took psychology cool. Let me tell you how the real world works if your too lazy to Google that's on you I'm not responsible for it, If you don't want to believe t that is really ALL on you but it doesn't take a genius too Google when they are clasp let of GAGing. And gain I took psychology also nueroscience and science ain't shit fyi it's collapsing that you should know too it shaking up the science world recently
@AssJacket You took psychology coo. let me tell you how the real world works if you can GAG you can Google it's not my responsibility to provide information for your this isn't the science world nor am I getting paid for it, I also took psychology and nueroscience and let emotional tell you psychology ain't shit it's collapsing. That you should know if you took psychology.
@somebodysaycheese since you can't provide evidence for your claim, I'm going to go ahead and think you made it up. That's the way this works in the "real world", by the way.
@AssJacket lol, I really don't care what you believe I wants even talking to you in the first place. so take several seats,
@somebodysaycheese I'm just telling you how science works, that's all.
Well this was beautiful.