Nope. There are plenty of MGTOW who still sleep around, so there will just be even more single baby mamas. On the bright side, the human population will continue.. WGTOW is somewhat different from MGTOW depending on what type you're talking aobut. There are two kinds of WGTOW. I'll call it WGTOW#1 and WGTOW#2. WGTOW#1 is put off by the roles expected of todays wife, thanks to feminism. WGTOW#2 has a completely different idea. They are not against marriage. There idea of going their own way is basically to remain a virgin until their proper mate comes along. This kind of WGTOW avoids men with children and and non tradionalist beta males
Marriage and serious relationships are both becoming more rare than they were 25 years ago, and there's a reason for this: women don't need men anymore.
Most women today are more than capable of making their own money. In fact, young women make significantly more than young men. Given this, most young women focus on finding men who are significantly "better" than them, guys who can improve their lives in some material sense. Barring that, they're more than happy to remain alone.
This is why 75% of divorces are initiated by women. It's also why so many desirable women remain single throughout their lives. The men who are available to them simply aren't able to provide them with anything "better" than what they are already able to provide themselves.
The decision to go ones own way is a personal decision... and people make it because they see it as the best option. The solution is simple... fix the broken lopsided system. I have mostly made the decision to "go my own way" after seeing a lot of men just get absolutely raped in the family and divorce courts. The worst instance was a guy who lost the house, kids, 2 of the three cars, got saddled with insane child support and alimony and was jailed for 30 days for violating a gag order put on him by a judge when he asked on Facebook if anyone knew a good lawyer. The marriage fell apart because she cheated on him... while he was working to pay for everything so she would not have to work. Now granted that is an extreme case but it really seems like the extreme is rapidly becoming the norm. If we want the riffs between the semester to heal... society has to abandon the women=good men=bad standard and embrace the idea that men and women should enjoy equal rights AND responsibilities.
Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them
go on google put giant foot prints Egyptian giants giant skeletons giants skeletons in america
Just fuck. Bitch and send her on her way. What else more do u want.
If u wanna play that white knight fairy tale role then go for it. If not fuck er and leave there no reason to be in a commited realtionship if u ain't trying to marry or have kids.
Unless this girl is somepne u see as ur bestfriend other than that. Get ur nut and move on stop being butt hurt men.
Some girl are out of ur league by looks and class.
Stop thibking with ur heart and think eith ur penis now days girls are just as sex crazy as guys.
If ur scared of her lying saying u assultrsd her or harasssed her or rape her record her when u fuck or ask her out keep the phone in ur pocket.
I'm a little bit MGTOW because things that guys would do back then that would count as flirting or just telling the female that they are interested is now perverted and creepy. Whenever a guy looks at a girl nowadays, the girl remembers a stupid feminist post on whatever webtsite about how it's disgusting how men look at women in dating and that their bodies should be treated with respect when all the guy did was check her out, as if checking someone out is a fucking sin and girls then act like they don't ever look at guys. But when women look at guys, its not perverted at all and its just innocent playfulness. All this bullshit that feminism had made up in the last few years is why there is a division between men and women in dating in today's world, and frankly, if feminism wasn't so far up its ass about all this "suffocating patriarchy" in America, then maybe there wouldn't be such a split.
Women dress sexy so men notice them, hoping that their dream man approaches them (tall, dark, handsome, good with kids, chiseled, six pack/six figure income, women after him but he only wants one lol). Beautiful women don't get approached as often as most guys think.
Men procure resources in hope that their dream woman will show up, (low partner count, bunch of guys chasing her but she only wants him, sex maniac, beautiful, perfect body, good with kids, a good cook).
You're basing ideals on crap you find on the internet, NOT the real world.
I would say... NOT screwed , if the genders are avoiding the opposite gender !! Every single solo woman I know , does NOT want anything to do with men , women led the way with all this " I don't need no man / A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle " type stuff , men are , logically , thinking " why bother , what 's the point? " , in addition to previous bad experiences with women. I'm a single dad , so my chosen situation removes me from the dating pool , I knew this on taking main custody.
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I don't think very many women are going to 'gtow' the way men who 'gtow' do.
Some would, those with low sex drives.
The rest live independently, have a network of female friends, and hook up with 'hot guys'.
By contrast, the men who are 'MGTOW' have no social interactions with women.
So basically you'd end up with a bunch of single guys living in basements, a smaller group of players on tinder every day, a few women who have cats and go to work, and a larger group of women who are all hooking up with a few guys wondering why no guys want to settle down.
The way I see it there are over 3 billion men and women on this planet. So out of those billions of people at least 1 of them will accept you and want to be with you. It's just most people these days are too damn lazy or just write off LDR's. Due to the fact that they don't have any determination to truly want to be with someone. If you're not will to put in the work to look for someone then don't even bother trying to have a relationship.
You know that this rate I see a future where men and women are legally separated and are not allowed to be with each other other because of a feminist View of men never being with women. And that may sound stupid but so does all this arguing going on between everyone about it
@cheapshotbob well I don't plan on being a part of it, if a feminists gives me shit I'll deal with her otherwise I plan on spending time around stable sensible women and people.
It's my opinion that women cause 90% of the gender fighting. One-sided expectations and demands, ridiculous standards, the whole marriage clusterfuck. Why should men bother with this bullshit? I'm not MGTOW but I can certainly understand why they are pissed off. I'm not gonna say that men are perfect, but I don't see men taking advantage of women nearly as often as the other way around.
@juliaanita And your a woman. Your views are going to be bias. However, a lot of time women get taken advantage of by the same guy that 50x other women want and he most likely fucked. Men at least try different types of women, while women more often than not tend to go for nearly the same exact thing and get burned then form a generalized conclusion about men.
@BubbleBoy69 basically what he said. @juliaanita There are definitely men out there who are users but it tends to just be the same scummy ones that think they can get what they want because they pretty much can.
I not only know more women who are users, but there are more types of women who use men in different ways. Women generally have to worry about whether the guy is using them for sex and whether he will sleep with other girls. Guys have to worry about girls using them for free dinner, using them for attention, using them for free stuff, cheating, taking our wealth in a divorce, taking the kids. It's a lot more diverse. And those concerns in many cases stem from the special treatment that women demand. He needs to ask me put, he needs to pay for dinner, he needs to as me to marry him, he can't sign a prenup, yada yada. Sometimes the same women do all of these things but unfortunately most women do at least some of these.
@juliaanita My point both genders are bias but men less so. Women's view of being used by men comes from choosing small sample size of men over and over. Men's perception comes from exposure to a much broader and wider range of women. Thus, male opinion on the matter of female behavior and being used by the opposite sex is more valid.
@juliaanita - Women take advantage of men far, far, far more often than vice versa AND they have the law on their side when they do it. You have mental issues if you don't see that.
@RedCar RE your unsupported claims about women, I am betting that your professional knowledge of "mental issues" is about par with your knowledge of the law
@juliaanita you know what... hows about you tell us how men take advantage of women... how about that. because over the years.. I've extricated myself from what "regular" men do and how they treat women... and i based my treatment of women off of how they treat men... and i can honestly tell you, im hated for it. so please entertain us. because Tyber is right on ALL points. -women take advantage of men far far more than the other way around -women ARE responsible for the gender fighting going on -women instigate over 75% of divorces these days even though they were the ones pressuring or pushing the move when the man wasn't ready from my research... women are the cause for all these things... BUT (and here is my rub) these Bitch Ass "Men"... keep letting them do it. Yup... i said it. these pussy whipped morons keep letting em. i have 99 problems but a bitch ain't one. any woman in my life, knows fucking better than to bring that shit my way. but go ahead.. how are women taken advantage
Yes humanity would be screwed if that was to happen. I just feel like mgtow are men who are frustrated, heartbroken, and mad about not being able to get a woman or get into a relationship. So they put the blame on women but deep down inside they want a relationship and they want to be loved..
men learning of gynocentrism, being justifiably disgusted by it and seeking an escape is a natural part of evolution in my opinion.
lol @ WGTOW. what a joke
the species isn't screwed, far from it. within the next few decades the artificial uterus will be complete. women, and even men won't be necessary to produce humans anymore. it will open up the gates of positive eugenics and transhumanism. i hope i live long enough to see it.
forget humans as they exist now. “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."― R. Buckminster Fuller
Not that I think it will happen, but it makes me wonder if it's possible that humanity will just split up between genders some day, men in their own communities and women in theirs, only coming together to procreate (or not at all if we can it all by lab). I've always found it quite interesting, but I believe there are more flaws to this than pros.
I don't know if I could class myself as MGTOW but I have gone off women completely, and for numerous reasons. If I were still interested in women (emotionally) I'd never get married. Getting married to a woman is like giving her the controls to your life. If she turns nasty, she could screw your whole life up with a divorce, or threaten a divorce as leverage.
I've been happily single by choice for 27 years, and I reckon I'll remain so for the rest of my days.
"I have male friends who say they're so terrified to approach women for fear of being accused of doing something terrible or even illegal, they just can't risk it anymore."
I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. Your male friends are just terrified to approach women, period.
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who gives a fuck. let people do whatever they want. whats it to you whether my dick is looking for pussy? hopefully everyone swears off wo/men and the human race dies out. really you should be applauding everyone who's swearing off the opposite sex. here in 70-100 years we're going to start starving to death due to food shortages because of overpopulation. not counting the 1 billion people who are already starving to death. really. why do you care? just focus on your own life.
Best response so far, the funny thing is that no matter what we do or don't do, we are still going to ALL DIE.
So, why don't we just enjoy whatever time we have left in this mess of a world that we had never asked to come into existence to in the very first place?
Women could never go WGTOW because women need men and without men civilisation would collapse without men to run it. An for a start everything a woman owns in her life is made by men, hence the word man made... I've never heard of anything woman-made.
Women know they're screwed without us, they seem to forget it was men that brought us to how advanced we are today because if it was down to women, we'd be still aging through an era where we'd be still living in houses made of wheat.
either way wasn't the purpose of feminism to teach women how to go their way and be strong and independent without the need of a man?
so yea we should let them worked their asses off at trying to be like us at creating this so called WGTOW so we can pop champagne and celebrate the fact that feminism itself was a failure.
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Nope. There are plenty of MGTOW who still sleep around, so there will just be even more single baby mamas. On the bright side, the human population will continue..
WGTOW is somewhat different from MGTOW depending on what type you're talking aobut. There are two kinds of WGTOW. I'll call it WGTOW#1 and WGTOW#2. WGTOW#1 is put off by the roles expected of todays wife, thanks to feminism. WGTOW#2 has a completely different idea. They are not against marriage. There idea of going their own way is basically to remain a virgin until their proper mate comes along. This kind of WGTOW avoids men with children and and non tradionalist beta males
Marriage and serious relationships are both becoming more rare than they were 25 years ago, and there's a reason for this: women don't need men anymore.
Most women today are more than capable of making their own money. In fact, young women make significantly more than young men. Given this, most young women focus on finding men who are significantly "better" than them, guys who can improve their lives in some material sense. Barring that, they're more than happy to remain alone.
This is why 75% of divorces are initiated by women. It's also why so many desirable women remain single throughout their lives. The men who are available to them simply aren't able to provide them with anything "better" than what they are already able to provide themselves.
The decision to go ones own way is a personal decision... and people make it because they see it as the best option. The solution is simple... fix the broken lopsided system. I have mostly made the decision to "go my own way" after seeing a lot of men just get absolutely raped in the family and divorce courts. The worst instance was a guy who lost the house, kids, 2 of the three cars, got saddled with insane child support and alimony and was jailed for 30 days for violating a gag order put on him by a judge when he asked on Facebook if anyone knew a good lawyer. The marriage fell apart because she cheated on him... while he was working to pay for everything so she would not have to work. Now granted that is an extreme case but it really seems like the extreme is rapidly becoming the norm. If we want the riffs between the semester to heal... society has to abandon the women=good men=bad standard and embrace the idea that men and women should enjoy equal rights AND responsibilities.
GENESIS 3:15
THIS IS WHAT GOD SAID TO THE DEVIL
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
BASICALLY GOD TOLD THE DEVIL HEY HER KID IS GONNA MESS YOU UP
SO LETS THINK OF ALL THE WAYS THE DEVIL CAN STOP US FROM HAVING KIDS
ABORTION
LGBT
START WARS WITH OURSELVES
MAKE US BELIEVE WHERE ANIMALS
MGTOW
THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT
DISEASE
WEAPONS
COLOR HATRED
THE LIST GOES ON
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth
MY GOD SAID HAVE A BUNCH OF KIDS AND THE MORE KIDS WE HAVE THE MORE SCARED THE DEVIL GETS
SO LADIES LET'S GO LOL
And every person with logic said-
This book has been translated three times and was written by people, not God or Jesus.
Why does anyone take it seriously? It is the Star Wars of its time.
@BaileyisDarcy
Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them
go on google put
giant foot prints
Egyptian giants
giant skeletons
giants skeletons in america
its to easy to prove this book
Just fuck. Bitch and send her on her way. What else more do u want.
If u wanna play that white knight fairy tale role then go for it. If not fuck er and leave there no reason to be in a commited realtionship if u ain't trying to marry or have kids.
Unless this girl is somepne u see as ur bestfriend other than that. Get ur nut and move on stop being butt hurt men.
Some girl are out of ur league by looks and class.
Stop thibking with ur heart and think eith ur penis now days girls are just as sex crazy as guys.
If ur scared of her lying saying u assultrsd her or harasssed her or rape her record her when u fuck or ask her out keep the phone in ur pocket.
I'm a little bit MGTOW because things that guys would do back then that would count as flirting or just telling the female that they are interested is now perverted and creepy. Whenever a guy looks at a girl nowadays, the girl remembers a stupid feminist post on whatever webtsite about how it's disgusting how men look at women in dating and that their bodies should be treated with respect when all the guy did was check her out, as if checking someone out is a fucking sin and girls then act like they don't ever look at guys. But when women look at guys, its not perverted at all and its just innocent playfulness. All this bullshit that feminism had made up in the last few years is why there is a division between men and women in dating in today's world, and frankly, if feminism wasn't so far up its ass about all this "suffocating patriarchy" in America, then maybe there wouldn't be such a split.
Women dress sexy so men notice them, hoping that their dream man approaches them (tall, dark, handsome, good with kids, chiseled, six pack/six figure income, women after him but he only wants one lol). Beautiful women don't get approached as often as most guys think.
Men procure resources in hope that their dream woman will show up, (low partner count, bunch of guys chasing her but she only wants him, sex maniac, beautiful, perfect body, good with kids, a good cook).
You're basing ideals on crap you find on the internet, NOT the real world.
I would say... NOT screwed , if the genders are avoiding the opposite gender !! Every single solo woman I know , does NOT want anything to do with men , women led the way with all this " I don't need no man / A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle " type stuff , men are , logically , thinking " why bother , what 's the point? " , in addition to previous bad experiences with women. I'm a single dad , so my chosen situation removes me from the dating pool , I knew this on taking main custody.
I don't think very many women are going to 'gtow' the way men who 'gtow' do.
Some would, those with low sex drives.
The rest live independently, have a network of female friends, and hook up with 'hot guys'.
By contrast, the men who are 'MGTOW' have no social interactions with women.
So basically you'd end up with a bunch of single guys living in basements, a smaller group of players on tinder every day, a few women who have cats and go to work, and a larger group of women who are all hooking up with a few guys wondering why no guys want to settle down.
The way I see it there are over 3 billion men and women on this planet. So out of those billions of people at least 1 of them will accept you and want to be with you. It's just most people these days are too damn lazy or just write off LDR's. Due to the fact that they don't have any determination to truly want to be with someone. If you're not will to put in the work to look for someone then don't even bother trying to have a relationship.
Preaching to the choir I see...
@Truthatanycost Have you checked what the mytake is about?
That's why you completely ignore people from both groups and focus on the women or men not in those groups the sensible ones.
Besides it's not like we're missing much a lot of feminists or at least hardcore ones are not that great looking.
Opinion owner. Great observation !!
@Djaaaaaay Thank you.
Nice car by the way, like the Cadillac in the background used to own one just like it.
You know that this rate I see a future where men and women are legally separated and are not allowed to be with each other other because of a feminist View of men never being with women. And that may sound stupid but so does all this arguing going on between everyone about it
@cheapshotbob well I don't plan on being a part of it, if a feminists gives me shit I'll deal with her otherwise I plan on spending time around stable sensible women and people.
I've created my own acronym P. P. L. M. A. (Psycho's Please Leave Me Alone) ... so far it seems to be working.
love it!
Stop abusing the apostrophe!
thats harrasment and sexual assault bro
It's my opinion that women cause 90% of the gender fighting. One-sided expectations and demands, ridiculous standards, the whole marriage clusterfuck. Why should men bother with this bullshit? I'm not MGTOW but I can certainly understand why they are pissed off. I'm not gonna say that men are perfect, but I don't see men taking advantage of women nearly as often as the other way around.
Of course you don't see men taking advantage of women. You're a man
@juliaanita And your a woman. Your views are going to be bias. However, a lot of time women get taken advantage of by the same guy that 50x other women want and he most likely fucked. Men at least try different types of women, while women more often than not tend to go for nearly the same exact thing and get burned then form a generalized conclusion about men.
@BubbleBoy69 basically what he said. @juliaanita There are definitely men out there who are users but it tends to just be the same scummy ones that think they can get what they want because they pretty much can.
I not only know more women who are users, but there are more types of women who use men in different ways. Women generally have to worry about whether the guy is using them for sex and whether he will sleep with other girls. Guys have to worry about girls using them for free dinner, using them for attention, using them for free stuff, cheating, taking our wealth in a divorce, taking the kids. It's a lot more diverse. And those concerns in many cases stem from the special treatment that women demand. He needs to ask me put, he needs to pay for dinner, he needs to as me to marry him, he can't sign a prenup, yada yada. Sometimes the same women do all of these things but unfortunately most women do at least some of these.
@BubbleBoy69 I am not sure what point you are making...
@juliaanita My point both genders are bias but men less so. Women's view of being used by men comes from choosing small sample size of men over and over. Men's perception comes from exposure to a much broader and wider range of women. Thus, male opinion on the matter of female behavior and being used by the opposite sex is more valid.
@juliaanita - Women take advantage of men far, far, far more often than vice versa AND they have the law on their side when they do it. You have mental issues if you don't see that.
@RedCar RE your unsupported claims about women, I am betting that your professional knowledge of "mental issues" is about par with your knowledge of the law
@BubbleBoy69 That's a pretty biased statement you made, don't you think?
@juliaanita you know what... hows about you tell us how men take advantage of women... how about that.
because over the years.. I've extricated myself from what "regular" men do and how they treat women... and i based my treatment of women off of how they treat men... and i can honestly tell you, im hated for it. so please entertain us.
because Tyber is right on ALL points.
-women take advantage of men far far more than the other way around
-women ARE responsible for the gender fighting going on
-women instigate over 75% of divorces these days even though they were the ones pressuring or pushing the move when the man wasn't ready
from my research... women are the cause for all these things... BUT (and here is my rub) these Bitch Ass "Men"... keep letting them do it. Yup... i said it. these pussy whipped morons keep letting em. i have 99 problems but a bitch ain't one. any woman in my life, knows fucking better than to bring that shit my way. but go ahead.. how are women taken advantage
Yes humanity would be screwed if that was to happen. I just feel like mgtow are men who are frustrated, heartbroken, and mad about not being able to get a woman or get into a relationship. So they put the blame on women but deep down inside they want a relationship and they want to be loved..
men learning of gynocentrism, being justifiably disgusted by it and seeking an escape is a natural part of evolution in my opinion.
lol @ WGTOW. what a joke
the species isn't screwed, far from it. within the next few decades the artificial uterus will be complete. women, and even men won't be necessary to produce humans anymore. it will open up the gates of positive eugenics and transhumanism. i hope i live long enough to see it.
forget humans as they exist now.
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."― R. Buckminster Fuller
Not that I think it will happen, but it makes me wonder if it's possible that humanity will just split up between genders some day, men in their own communities and women in theirs, only coming together to procreate (or not at all if we can it all by lab). I've always found it quite interesting, but I believe there are more flaws to this than pros.
I don't know if I could class myself as MGTOW but I have gone off women completely, and for numerous reasons. If I were still interested in women (emotionally) I'd never get married. Getting married to a woman is like giving her the controls to your life. If she turns nasty, she could screw your whole life up with a divorce, or threaten a divorce as leverage.
I've been happily single by choice for 27 years, and I reckon I'll remain so for the rest of my days.
"I have male friends who say they're so terrified to approach women for fear of being accused of doing something terrible or even illegal, they just can't risk it anymore."
I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. Your male friends are just terrified to approach women, period.
who gives a fuck. let people do whatever they want. whats it to you whether my dick is looking for pussy? hopefully everyone swears off wo/men and the human race dies out. really you should be applauding everyone who's swearing off the opposite sex. here in 70-100 years we're going to start starving to death due to food shortages because of overpopulation. not counting the 1 billion people who are already starving to death. really. why do you care? just focus on your own life.
Best response so far, the funny thing is that no matter what we do or don't do, we are still going to ALL DIE.
So, why don't we just enjoy whatever time we have left in this mess of a world that we had never asked to come into existence to in the very first place?
@JudgmentDay exactly
Women could never go WGTOW because women need men and without men civilisation would collapse without men to run it. An for a start everything a woman owns in her life is made by men, hence the word man made... I've never heard of anything woman-made.
Women know they're screwed without us, they seem to forget it was men that brought us to how advanced we are today because if it was down to women, we'd be still aging through an era where we'd be still living in houses made of wheat.
that's exactly what I'm saying!
either way wasn't the purpose of feminism to teach women how to go their way and be strong and independent without the need of a man?
so yea we should let them worked their asses off at trying to be like us at creating this so called WGTOW so we can pop champagne and celebrate the fact that feminism itself was a failure.