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#1 is not always true.
In my home state I saw two cases of sexual assault on minors. One by a female high school teacher the other by a male relative of the first victim. Both were equally horrendous and had a similar number of victims. The victims in the case of the high school teacher were ages 15-17. The male relative 6-11. Yet the woman got 30+ the man 7+. I can't find logic with this.
Generally women get lighter sentences. There are cases where female teachers had sex with students and got a couple months in jail.
2/3 of college degrees are now earned by women yet there are literally 1000's of women only scholarships and 0 scholarships exclusively for boys. Can't see how this can be defended. This is why I would never hire a women other than to suck my dick. No other reason than my frustration with this open legal and acceptable sexism. Otherwise i can't think of any reason to hate them. Same with racism
Pro-choice is understandable to be honest. Although men should have some form of paternity rights. I feel society discriminates women by making them all out to be little children who can't think for themselves. Well. I guess you eventually become how you're being treated, most feminists can show us precisely that.
What about when women rape men? That man didn't get a say in which woman gained his seed. Maybe he didn't want her or any woman to get his seed. So she can rape him and still get rights to her baby?
@Only_Pinto_Beans I think that calls for a forced abortion if the man requests it. I don't care if it is against muh human rights. If a woman is raped she can abort fine but if a woman rapes a man and she gets pregnant by him he should be able to request it be aborted. Although people already have a hard time believing men can be raped :( even in the UK law it's very specific that only men can rape.
Yeah but if the man wants the baby, she doesn't have a right to abort.
@Only_Pinto_Beans Strange that a man would want a baby from a woman that raped him but whatever he wants to do with it.
In all consent forms of sex, they agreed to the sex, so abortion shouldn't be a question. It won't be long until Trump makes abortion illegal in half of the states.
Yes, some women want her rapists baby because she is against abortion. The victim should get the choice: male or female, if abortion is legal.
The asker could have said genital integrity as a discrimination: Girls are free from circumcision. Boys have to depend upon parents to avoid it.
A female school teacher can admit to having sex with kids under age and nothing happens to her but a woman can falsely accuse a man of rape and they'll throw him in prison with no evidence at all.
If two drunk people have sex then it's the guy who is the rapist.
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If anyone wants to understand why men hate feminists, just look at the responses here from them. It's certainly not hard to distinguish them from the other women. Feminists deny the issues men face and deliberately stand in the way of attempts to address or even just bring attention to them. We see it every day. Anyone who says feminism supports the rights of both genders is either a liar or a fool.
@SovereignessofVamps
@Arawra
I see SovereignessofVamps edited her response. I guess she regretted sharing her misandry in public.
I guess that's one of the benefits of being an editor; you get to edit your posts when you regret them after the fact.
@SovereignessofVamps
Most modern Feminists do acknowledge and support finding solutions to these very real men's issues. Perhaps you don't know any Feminists?
Also, there's this FWIW:
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@HungLikeAHorsefly
That’s just it…I have talked with many, many feminists and 95% get defensive and end up in denial mode in any discussion about men’s issues. Women I talk to who have turned their backs on feminism tell me exactly the same thing. Modern feminists are the ones who are most guilty of this, so I really don’t know where you’re coming from. It makes me wonder.
Tell me, what do you think is the typical feminist response to any organized discussion or presentation about men’s issues. Do you think the feminist organizations support them? Do offer any support at all? Of course they don’t. They protest and try to get them shut down.
And yeah, I checked some of your Redit links and they are the typical feminist issues spun in an attempt to make it sound as if they are addressing real problems for men. They’re not. I’m sorry, but “men need to be able to express their feelings” is NOT even on the top 10 list of issues men face.
Well, I know quite a few Feminists who are in academia - professors and such. I'd say most of my female friends and some male friends identify as such. Everyone I know who calls themselves a Feminist acknowledges these men's issues and actively discuss it. As an example, my SIL is a member of a Feminist group in Texas and is a lawyer for an organization that helps men get fair treatment in divorce cases. Most of these women are members of NOW and/or the American Association of University Women (AAUW) who publish a lot of the studies that GAGers decry - yet all of them talk openly about these very same issues we're discussing that men have.
Perhaps you're talking to stupid people, rather than Feminists? Or, perhaps you're talking about these issues in an accusatory way?
As for the Reddit stuff, scroll down a bit. You'll find things like how NOW led the campaign to bring the issue of male rape into the spotlight, or about Feminists speaking out against domestic abuse towards men.
1. Women get shorter sentences for the same crimes as men
Women are perceived as weaker and can't handle the punishment, historically. This is bias against women, even if it "works for women."
2. Divorce laws are lopsidedly in favor of women.
When men fight for the same rights as women, such as child custody, they are given the same benefits.
3. Pro-choice? Men have absolutely no choice in the matter
Good. Men aren't entitled to make a decision about a body that isn't theirs.
5. Men are Disposable
"Women are weaker and should be put first because of it." Sexist reasoning still.
Still blaming men are we?
1. Women are seen as nurturers. Also when it comes to sex crimes society believes that men and boys cannot be victims and that he must have "enjoyed" it therefore society believes no harm was done.
2. Society believes that children should be with their mothers by default but in many cases it is the father who was the better guardian but the mother was given custody due to gender bias also women have the power to lie about the father to make him look bad.
3. There are many cases where women have stolen a mans semen and got pregnant without his consent.
"3. Pro-choice? Men have absolutely no choice in the matter
Good. Men aren't entitled to make a decision about a body that isn't theirs."
Say that to all the women deciding to circumsise their children.
I thinks the father should have a say too, not only the mother. If he wants to keep the child, but the mother wants to undergo abortion, I thinks he should be allowed to adopt it instead. It must be difficult for the father to lose his child just because the mother aborted it.
@Arawra What is wrong with you?
@Blitzkrieger RIGHT! Long live the matriarchy
Did you you know who started this barbaric practice? The Jews. Did you know you can't be a Jew unless your mother is one... So tell me again who the "oppressers" are again?
@Tony1974 we must stop this barbarism and restore the sexual feelings men can feel with a foreskin. Religion must not stop us.
And how many divorces have you been through, as a man?
Even leaving out kids, men still get fucked. Hard and raw. A cheating woman who decided she wasn't going to work for a year or two is rewarded. If the shoe was on the other foot? He'd be jeered right out of the court room.
yes women are weaker so should learn their place and not comment especially when they come out with crap like you. And as for number 3, it is not the womens body either it is the babies so women should not have a say.
Nice take! I love all the salty downvotes from the "feminists".
Until more women are in positions of power and decision making, these little advantages they have will pale in comparison to the power men wield.
It is just a simple fact.
How so?
When men can come together and make legislation that has a direct impact upon the lives of women, that is an advantage that is indescribable. Or if the executives of a company, all male, come together to create rules, standards etc. that impact the women employees of their company, etc.
I am not saying anything about positive or negative impact. I am talking about logic and common sense.
It is the same if you were working in a company where most of the staff was "White" and all of the executives were Latino. People feel like they are not represented and their power is diminished.
It has always been odd. . . that the argument for male benevolence is made by mostly by men who would refuse to be in a situation where they felt they were not represented by management or in government.
feminist appeasers are such laughing stocks especially when they are middle aged.
👏👏👏 You are one of the most amazing ladies out there for mentioning all of this! 😍
What is the appropriate reaction towards the downvoting bunch?
HA HA HA 😂😂😂
So many "feminists" downvoting this 😂😂 hahaha!
it makes me happy to see how many woman agree to this and how many agree to feminism mytakes :)
by the way the 45 president of the us is a victim of some of this.
donald trump is still called a sexist and still some say he touched woman.
by fact there where some (2 or 3) who said this, but it turned out to be a lie...
still people hates him a thing he didn't done, even if he where one of the first who placed woman in powerful positions...
I want to share another opinion here just to cheer you guys up (well I agree 4 of these except 1, so good take)
Society discriminates against me because men run outside shirtless and I cannot. DOUBLE STANDARDS! :p
You want to run shirtless around?
@Iamsososobored yes
Every man can't run around shirtless Because they are really very hairy unfortunately :'(
in germany you are not allowed to be shirtless in public as men. if someone call the police or the police see you and have a bad day you have to pay money. its called "erregung öffentlichen ärgernisses"
in private places like swimming baths its whatever the owner of the place wants. some allow woman to show there breasts, other allow you to be naked. the interesting thing is that if womans are allowed they still dont do, because they shame.
and i where in a lot beaches in my life and saw a lot of topless or naked woman in beaches. i never heard anyone saying anything against this.
@PropagandaMinister Yeah... Women are themselves ashamed to be shirtless
I agree, especially about the unfairness of the divorce laws.
I like especially that this is not disparaging of women's rights issues. So many times, men's rights are seen as opposing women and Feminism. We all have our problems, and ignoring one group's is just as wrong as ignoring another.
Completely agree. And I would add rape. It's so present in the media, yet it's so little spoken of rape happening in male prisons, which is a problem much worse than it is portrayed in movies and in general.
6. The countless amounts of anti-male propaganda in many news outlets.
Look at all the downvotes from people watching different television.
I don't which television it is... must not be US stations.
This is awesome! I was actually feeling the same way, tbh. I'm glad that someone's speaking up about it :)
I have one issues only with women tbh, the fact that men have to work harder, always approach, do this and do that and at the end of the day they are in the eyes of the law and most women unfit.
totally agree i got shafted for child support when the prossie i banged kept the condom and impregnated herself.
Depends on the country. In the United States, you can contest a judgement if the judge wasn't neutral
in reality they dont want to get payed with dream castles but with real castles. if you are not at 0$ after your first lose you will definitly be after your second.
If she rapes him, the man has a choice in the matter. I'm not paying child support of a baby if I'm raped.
Not in the US or the UK, in cases of females raping males, child support is still owed by the father. Plenty of case law on this one.
Wrong. If I can prove rape to an attorney, I don't have to legally pay it.
The problem is actually proving it. Rapes are often hard to prove. Especially female-on-male.
@ObscuredBeyond
I hate many American laws. I get kicked in nuts at a club and I'm the one arrested instead of her. That's BS.
They assume you provoked the girl by saying something rapey / inappropriate. And if you're screaming at her for what she did, they judge the situation based not on the fact that she openly assaulted you, but on whether or not anyone is coming to your defense.
And if nobody does, then your continued cries for help are deemed "annoying" and you're accused of being a "menace" to customers and of disturbing the peace.
Once the bar owner calls it that way to police, they don't really care about your testicular pain - which they can't even measure. They only care about the fact that the whole bar hates you enough to throw you under the bus, so surely you must be a bad egg.
I almost got thrown out of a bar once simply because no woman there bothered to approach me. Even when I wasn't doing anything wrong or out of the ordinary. They also threatened me for having a camera, and accused me of being a spy for the Health Department. Insane!
@ObscuredBeyond
If I would have slapped her, I'd got 6 months minimum of anger management or jail time for 3 to 6 months. So I was lucky just to do the night in jail.
Show me the case law, as I know of at least one case of actual rape, where the father was forced to pay, and lots and lots of cases of statutory rape there's even a judge in the UK that told a 10 year old that he would have to get a paper route.
The justification is that the child is innocent and the support os for the child...
@Anpu23
Screw that. Nobody can force you to pay. You can decline to pay. I will kill a judge that said those words to me. Think I'm playing..
Those men pay because they have a terrible attorney.
What about when a woman is raped, chooses to have a baby and father wants custody? He gets them in 7 states.
Again that is the law as it stands, weather or not you pay is your choice. But as far as I know the law is pretty clear on that. I can give sources if you need them, and hopefully a good attorney could overcome that legal precedent, but as it stands now...