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About the 3. one sorry but men see babies as nothing but toys giving birth and taking care of a baby is what woman does so I don't know why you bother about it you don't carry that baby in your body for nine months and you don't give birth to it. why do you think that you should have any right to say about that baby?
I just disagreed about the 3. one about the others, you are right about them but the 3. one is just nope this shouldn't be your choice
I've just looked at your username, you must really love yourself.
Well... smh!
@timesplittersxsxd you have a nickname of a 12 year old so I am not gonna take you seriously. Does your mama know you write things in there? I don't think so 😏
I'm a man, I don't see babies as "toys". I have always wanted to be a father. My father was a great man, my mother was a great woman. You know nothing about men.
That being said. I do believe it is the woman's choice whether to have the baby or not, it's her body. But... women can choose to have a child, give it up for adoption, and not be financially liable for that child... Men don't have that option. If she wants to keep it, and he doesn't. The baby is born and he is FORCED to pay child support. I would say men should be allowed to give up financial responsibility for the child, while abortion is still an option. If it has been too long and the child cannot be aborted, then he should be held responsible. Unless it was hidden from him by the woman. If she still wants to have the baby and take care of it herself, than that is on her. Not the mans fault in my opinion.
Five reasons on a much longer list of reasons why every day more men go their own way (MGTOW).
The legal and economic risks of interaction with women exceed any possible benefit by a huge margin.
The only way to win is to not play the game.
If a woman accuses a man for sexual assault, authority usually favor the female right off the bat without any real investigation.
All of the issues you pointed out are very real problems. They also don't negate the fact that men do have a certain privilege in many areas of our society. That is, it isn't mutually exclusive.
How often do you see any one of the problems I pointed out on the main stream news? I think men today are only being seen as bad, when they to are suffering. There are men right now sitting in jail because they didn't pay child support for a kid thats not their own.
I don't see these types of things very often in the mainstream news. Then again, I wouldn't expect it; they whitewash things too much for that to happen.
what privileges do we have?
give me facts, no feminism bullshit.
@PropagandaMinister Sure. Here's a list:
everydayfeminism.com/.../
Now, some of the issues here are minor annoyances, but others are pretty major, like the fact that we're taken more seriously by doctors and that we aren't nearly as likely to be killed by a significant other.
Note also that, this list is on an obviously Feminist website that links to other obviously Liberal sites. However, unlike most of the anti-Feminist literature on the web, the vast majority of the things on this list are supported by peer reviewed scientific research (and a lot of that is linked from the list either directly or indirectly).
you are trolling me right? :)
7. You’re not expected to step aside if someone of another gender is walking in your path.
xDD
@PropagandaMinister Like I said, some of that list is very minor. Others aren't. What do you have to say about those things?
That is a feminazi website man.. One of the senior writers wears a " male tears " tshirt. .
Yeah, I know. I probably should have found a similar list on a non-Feminist website. Regardless, the list ain't wrong.
That list of privileges is almost entirely false. They say "most language is in favor of men, such as mankind". They completely disregard the etymology behind the word.
They also unironically list "manspreading". They say that men aren't judged for having masculine hobbies, even though they *are* judged for having feminine hobbies. That entire list is completely garbage. I feel dumber having read all of that.
@Kirah So, the studies that provide evidence that women aren't taken serious at the doctor's office, or that they're raped a lot more, or that they are killed by men more than men are killed by women, or that they have significantly more challenges at work than men do are also garbage?
@HungLikeAHorsefly there is no objective way to quantify "privilege". And until there is, you cannot claim "women have it worse".
For every male privilege that you list, I can list a female privilege. It's pointless to argue "who has it worse".
most of this is subjective and a well made study wouldn't even work on this.
25. whatever the capitalism wants. but porns in total are for both. the main target group are guys but there are also porns with girls as target group so its not really a benefit for guys
30. viagra works for woman
woman dont need viagra
woman have anti baby pills men doesn't.
38. i just want to point this out xD so funny
42. as far as i know this is not true.
47. 40-70% is not a bit. its way too much to use it as a "example"
55. this is not 100% correct. yes girls prefer older guys and guys prefer older girls. but a girl doesn't want a ugly guy. grey hairs are ok for both. (btw most men are losing hairs, woman not...) but if you start to get really ugly with bad skin and stuff like that its NOT ok.
59. another example of how stupid those examples are
67. lets be fair. i call it a benefit. even if men has way more hairs and ARE judged IF they shave them.
but how big is that benefit compared to no rights with unborn childrens?
78. guys are simply better. good example is WWE. they are trying hard to get woman wrestlers but they are bad as hell. and you girls are ruining it for yourself not wanting to do as much as guys do. if no "only men" sports would be accepted then girls had a bigger chance but thats not gonna happen or feminism would work on this. i would like to see men vs woman in wwe or if you could put woman and men together in sports like soccer. thats not a benefit i would even call it a disadvantace.
147. just want to point this out. this list is big big bullshit.
in 55. i wanted to say: girls prefer older guys and guys prefer YOUNGER girls
@Kirah It's not about who has it worse, or whether or not there is an equivalent male privilege for each of the things on this list (a proposition I doubt). The question was whether or not male privilege exists. It obviously does - they don't cancel one another out.
These are 5 of the biggest. I'd add to number 5 the fact that men are by far the majority of suicide victims, yet more mental health services are provided to women.
What about genital integrity? Females are free from circumcision. Males are not.
@Only_Pinto_Beans well I got circumcised as an adult and prefer it so it's hard for me to feel passionate about that one.
I also don't think it's quite on the level of the 3-5x suicide rate
Yes but I was saying that society doesn't value male genital integrity but do female genital integrity.
Yes you are gifted. Reading this gives me hope for the future.
The only point that's not mostly based on opinion is #3. And even for that, if you don't want the risk then either don't fuck, or pullout even with a condom on. He didn't have to cum inside her or go bare.
That goes both ways though? The woman didn't have to fuck either and thus could avoid abortion, right?
@FakeName123 sure... and?
What?
Really? Just look at all the female school teachers getting away with statutory rape and the light sentences they get or worse.. they get pregnant and the court rapes the victims again by making them pay child support. Talk about "blaming the victim"
Well the women and children first thing only applied on the Titanic, in most cases it is a free for all.
You forgot the all men must sign up for selective service when they turn 18 and Circumcision (or as I say institutional child abuse against boys). Other than that you nailed it! Great job!
#3 sucks because I would always choose abortion. I shouldn't have to pay for something I don't want, ie child support.
Good take. Appreciate it, good to know there are at least some women here , aware of these things
wow it's the clash of the genders down there
You want butter on your popcorn?
@dragonfly6516 well no but I could some more bbq sauce for these ribs if it's not too much trouble ma'am xD
Someone said ribs?😍😍
LMAO
Or these days, transgender.
@WD2017 Transgender is a type of mental illness... it is not a gender. *grabs popcorn*
Unfortunately many women have used the power of the government to be like a beta orbiter who she can summon to threaten or attack her boyfriend. Justice is supposed to be blind!
Feminism will also benefit men eventually. Women are still the most oppressed class in herstory and men enjoy privilege. Once we get rid of male privilege and patriarchy we can have equality. Take care of women's issues FIRST!
What privilege do men have? Both men and women face different issues in 2017 , but you can't say " hey look back at 1930 , women were discriminated against so we need to help women today". Thats BS, because you didn't live in 1930, and you didn't face those problems. You want benefits because other persons had it bad before you are alive? By that logic, all white people today should be held accountable for slavery and we should only help black people because we oppressed them. Right? So go give your job to a black women who is unemployed.
As long as 1 in 4 women get raped we do not have equal rights. We cannot participate equally in a society that is hostile towards women and systematically oppresses them. As long as there is patriarchy women need to fight against their oppression. Women are still almost exclusively the victims of domestic violence and the majority of rapists walk free.
No sorry, you are inferior, so you coem second.
1 in 4 women is a myth invented by feminists. It's a lie. And domestic violence is about 50/50 but men get nowhere near the same help as what women get. Western society always panders to women while demonizing men. It's men who are oppressed, not women.
@Love_Is_Eternal Yeah and I don't understand what rights have to do with crime i. e. 'when 1 in 4 women' aren't raped... Crime doesn't care about peoples' rights, whether its rape or murder or assault or kidnapping.
That was actually for SuperGlitterGirl
Men in general , but not all men F... the law sometimes.
Because men 40 times more expendable than women. Kill 95% of the men and the population recovers in one generation (about 20 years). Kill 95% of the women and the population will not recover in 100 years.
Some females blow--lol--things out of proportion. Not every man in today's sick era likes females anyway so relax. I like females but I don't lay up with just any chick because she could be an undercover prostitute.
You forgot about the incredibly discriminatory educational system, which systematically favors girls over boys starting in Kindergarden.
Citation of sources should be included for future reference.
And uh I'd tell that to ANYONE. When you make any sort of claims that you are passing off as information you should provide sources (and not from some blog or activist website! I mean actual peer reviewed studies, up to date government information, etc). Some of what you said is correct but some isn't. Some of is half right. Just misleading information. So many factors go into these sort of things that you aren't even thinking about. Anyone could fact check these. Do it for the likes if you want but don't get pissy when someone asks for your sources. Because without them all this is an opinion piece.
If you were a journalist you would be fired on the spot. Just saying. But good thing you aren't.
Well feel free to "fact check" .
You can't be half right. YOU KNOW ITS TRUE but can't accept that men don't have it as easy as you think. Good luck being a victim all your life.
Wow what a rude and ignorant answer. Hun I assure you that I have done a great deal of research onto these topics (for years. None of this is new to me). All I'm saying if that if ANYONE is going to make ANY sort of claims they should provide (reliable) sources. Otherwise you lose credibility. I would say the same thing to someone writing an article with opposing information. You attack on me is a logical fallacy. You are trying to attack a straw man by making false assumptions about what I think instead of addressing my actual point.
Actually you can be 'half right'. Such if you use statistics that are based on sample sizes and not the entire population. So they were true for that sample size and thus are given as a ESTIMATE because knowing the entire statistic is impossible. It could be close to what was cited or lower, or even higher. Point is we don't know for sure. That is often the problem with statistics. There are too many dark figures.
Dark figures FYI are unreported crimes/ incidences.
And if you try to assert that I'm on any side I will politely 'laugh' in your face. Ha ha ha.
Because, believe me, I've argued with plenty of feminists and women who say men have no problems and act like victims. So please. Just stop.
*an estimate.
Well finally someone said it.👏👏👏👏