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The Atrocities of Communism (18+) (Page 2)
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Great take. Modern left wingers choose to ignore this. There's a reason former communist countries will never let communism on again.
wow, the best piece i read here about politics and totalitarian ideologies of the last century. thank you for a great read
I can't help but chuckle when Americans try to tell me how bad we had it as if they know anything outside of the propaganda generated by their own nation.
A 27 year old today was not around when Stalin was in power.
Assuming 27 is your real age, you were born one year before the Soviet Union under Gorbachev collapsed.
Exactly. And after Gorbachev collapsed everything was perfect the next day. No way he could have felt any sort of reverberation or lasting effects as he grew up. That's ridiculous!
@Arbalest Exactly my point. I love people that like to give opinions on things they have never experienced.
Our country's communism was abolished in 1989, when we executed our own dictator, yet we didn't even have a good capitalist understanding till mid-2000's. It's not like clapping and boom, the mentality changed. Even now there are traces of communism in our behaviour, which is why Romania still hasn't developed to western standards.
Oy vey, Capitalist pig let us not forget the atrocities of capitalist system
Every political system has done some morally questionable things, it does not excuse what the communists did.
Lets not act like it's any worse though
NO, LET'S!!! Communism is WAY FUCKING WORSE from a purely moral standpoint it is the initiation of violence against the individual for the perceived benefit of the collective which you are entrusting a police state to oversee. It is a form of totalitarian government where freedom and choice is restricted and you lack political education. Stick around and learn something, all capitalism is is the absence of regulation a. k. a freedom capitalism should just be called 'basic economic template' because that's what it is.
Communism: Buy this healthcare or you are going to jail.
Capitalism: Hey wanna buy some health insurance? We have competitive pricing!
@Goochbreaker I'm not a communist
Yea, and so does capitalism today and throughout history. boohoo
uneducated swine not your fault public education is communist propaganda but please being to learn. Do you have any friends who grew up in eastern europe? Find someone who has and ask them about communism vs capitalism. Please.
don't forget the Ukrainian genocide which was the biggest famine in history. and the attrocities in the greek civil war, and so many others... .
Um, the biggest famine in history was in China.
@bubble_tea and india yes. europe's history.
@bubble_tea communist china ;)
Your examples are examples of brutal dictators. Brutal dictators exist regardless of the political ideology on the surface.
The point is that communism has failed and on every time it’s been given a chance. It does not deserve another chance. Can you imagine the outrage if someone tried to defend nazism by saying “it doesn’t count, it was a dictatorship”.
There has been no example of pure communism anywhere in the world. The governments labeling themselves as communist were lying. Most were simple dictatorships hiding under the facade of communism-the former Soviet Union was the absolute worst. The members of the Politburo were driving Western luxury cars, drinking Western top shelf liquor, smoking Marlboro cigarettes, owning foreign real estate in the West and living high on the hog. Plenty of dictatorships were supported by the U. S. for economic reasons. Remember when the U. S. supported Batista or Noriega or even Saddam Hussein (when we wanted him to fight Iran)? The policy is called "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Dictatorships fly many different economic ideological flags. It doesn't matter what flag they fly.
There is no denying that dictatorship does not work. However, that doesn’t mean communism should be given another chance. Communism already had many chances and it failed them all. The communism that seems to be a trend today is known as “anarcho-communism” and it is openly being promoted by far left millennials (antifa).
Anarcho-communism could be even worse than any previous communist regimes.
Again, no place has ever actually instituted communism because greed and power are human nature. by the way, capitalism doesn't have such a stellar record either...
Every political system has done it’s shameful deeds before, there’s no denying that. Still, to say communism has yet to succeed is just like saying fascism has yet to succeed. Although some say that Franco’s Spain was a successful fascist nation.
Again, there is NO example of a pure communist state. It never has existed... not in Cuba... not in the USSR... not in China... not anywhere. "State run" corporations owned by millionaires and billionaires could not exist in a true communist state... yet, these so-called "communist" countries have/had thousands of millionaire and billionaire political cronies...
I understand that you and certain people still have some faith left in communism but eventually you’ll have to realize communism’s days are over because communism only looks good on paper. So once it’s put to practice it fails because it’s prone to corruption.
Even in a “ideal” communist nation people can’t own private property, can’t have money for enjoyment, culture is suppressed and people are prohibited from practicing a religion. Even fascism doesn’t have those restrictions. Not defending fascism by the way.
What makes you think that I have "faith in communism"? I never stated that. Communism only exists on paper... and it will stay on paper...
You seem to be defending communism.
I can't defend something that doesn't exist.
It seemed like it at first.
in a purely capitalist system a brutal dictator cannot exist... a purely capitalist system means every interaction is voluntary
@Goochbreaker Ah... right!!!
Yeah but maybe they know something that we don't. Why else would that be so ardent in their opinions?
Because communist apologists can be stubborn, their only defenses are conspiracy theories and claims that it wasn’t real communism.
I totally agree
I don't get the "18+"...
It’s a form of saying that this post is meant to be read by 18 year olds and older due to the content.
I'm not sure what would be objectionable. In my 7th grade history class (I was 12) we saw a documentary on WW 2 that showed the bodies in the concentration camps and Japanese soldiers who had been hit by flamethrowers.
I never knew they did that, most of the videos they showed us in school was censored.
Maybe they are more sensitive now since 9/11.
We watched Schinler's list in school , any time there was a gunshot the screen would go white for 3 seconds.
It sucks it;s cause of certain people pushing certain things
Finally, bloody commies.
Well both Communists and Capitalists are evil so?
Capitalism gives you everything.
Feel free to pick up a stone and a stick and make a living on the savanna.
Cold war starting all over
yea... it is shit
Why is this 18+?
Just in case some of the younger readers find the content disturbing.
Cold war starting all over
It’s not the Cold War, a lot of people are just starting to speak out against communism.
That 's been happening ever since the 19th century.
If mean people speaking out against communism? Then yes, you are right. People have speaking out against communism for many years.
Mkay
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