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Over the last few years it's become more obvious. But whites get very resentful when it's brought up
Why don't you list some examples, and then I will list some too.
@Nakoma Wage gap, Home sales, employment, minorities on corp. boards decrasing, number of CEO's decreasing.
Like this? https://youtu.be/ZPDpcYEdiOg
XD
@BellePepper Thank you that was funny as hell!
@BellePepper This was the most ignorant thing I have ever seen. As for the hair thing... you know how many black classmates I have had that constantly touch my hair without even asking me and I was never offended. Only two of my classmates didn't mind me touching their hair, or blowing it out. And Black people don't just do it to white people, they do it to Indian, Asians, and latin people too. You're just singling out the whites.
Ever heard of Equal Opportunity Employers? African American Assistance Programs? Wage gaps happen because they don't ask for more. I always had to ask for a raise. When you say "corp" what are you referring to? CEOs... even women struggle to get those spots. but it is changing a lot. I live in NYC, and I meet a lot of black and women executives as a hairstylist.
@BellePepper And furthermore, when other races whine about shit it's called "standing up for themselves", but when whites do it it is whining and fragile.
Yay!!! I’m glad you liked it anon!!! You seemed like the kind of person who would appreciate it XD
@Nakoma settle the fuck down. Your snowflake will melt if you keep up all this jumping around and then you might actually have to see reality 😱
Let me know if anything bothers you anon
And it's mostly white males who get the most resentful.
@BellePepper dude... are you a white knight now?
@BellePepper You don't even know what a snowflake is.
@BellePepper THis convo is hurting my white feelings LOL
@COCOCHANEL Why does it make her a white knight to be white and realize how her own people are? No doubt, Belle is not on my good side but she is not wrong about this.
@ManOnFire i'm part white and i say she's wrong. she's not realizing anything. that's my opinion based on my life experience. i don't give a fuck about being pc or saving face.
@COCOCHANEL I don't know why you’re so against white people being called out for things they actually do. You’re usually so rational :(
@ManOnFire omg is this is agreeing?
LMFAO anon XD
@BellePepper I agree with you on this, yeah. And I've actually thumbed up a few of your other answers on GaG, but you still have other changes to make.
@COCOCHANEL So since you're part white you should be humble and realize the truth. Why should you favor your white side more just because you have it? It's like you want to rationalize that but not with people of color.
@BellePepper mostly because that's not what i saw in california and on a more personal note my father was overlooked for many opportunities like scholarships and jobs thanks to affirmative action just because he wasn't a minority. he wasn't upset about it and rarely mentioned it as he wasn't the kind of man to bitch and moan but i feel it's unfair. i could go on but who really cares? no one.
@ManOnFire does humble mean stop standing up for oneself and forget what one has experienced?
@ManOnFire sorry but i'm immune to white guilt.
@COCOCHANEL you’re frustrated that your dad was turned down yeah? Well how would you feel if that happened to your dad with everything? What if it happened to your mom and siblings and you and your friends too? Not because any of you were unqualified. But because of their skin color. And then when you bring it up people say it’s YOUR fault and get angry at you for even bringing it up. Does that sound right?
Racism is real and we know it. Being angry isn’t going to change it and it’s not going to change the fact that white people overwhelmingly benefit from it
@BellePepper how do you know that it was only my dad it happened to? i said i could go on. that means to be continued you know? i think you are imagining that all whites live in a wonderland where everything goes their way.
i must tell you that i have never benefitted from being white no matter what country i've lived in. i have been nothing but teased, tormented, mocked, laughed at for being white by people of other races. to be quite honest i am extremely ashamed of being white and hide this fact from others. i am currently attending weekly therapy for emotional scars due to racism. thanks for assuming.
@BellePepper Yep. You are right.
@COCOCHANEL Ya know, this really doesn't surprise me because Asians tend to sympathize with whites, not even thinking about how whites have even oppressed, gypped, and abuse your own people.
@ManOnFire i mean do you only like whites who suck up to blacks like yourself? you did say in the past that you are disgusted by American girls who are into korean culture like kpop...
@ManOnFire what? if Asians sympathized with whites and looked up to them do you think i'd be experiencing racism when i "reveal" my ethnic identity? because i do experience racism. for being part white. it's too bad you can't understand that.
@COCOCHANEL now you’re really starting to sound racist coco and I know that’s not how you want to come off :/
@BellePepper i am starting to sound racist because i am admitting that i am a victim of racism and am in therapy for it? or was it because i called the guy out for saying korean men are lower beings?
@BellePepper I think she’s noting that in Japan, there’s no white privileged, there's Japanese privilege.
She also mentions knowing white Americans who suffered because of skin colour. And it can happen. At various times quotas and so on have a real impact. It could be that overall if you have a PhD from a top school and want to be a professor or something being s minority is a plus.
However that still wouldn’t shift my overall view. Millions of black kids deal with white teachers. More young black men are in jail than college. The areas where they are disadvantaged have more widespread
Impact than the areas they’re advantaged. But perhaps being smart + well off + well educated can overall flip being black to an advantage thanks to preferential scholarships and hiring. But that’s much less prevalent.
@COCOCHANEL I never said anything about being disgusted by Americans who like Kpop, I PERSONALLY just think it's lame.
"i mean do you only like whites who suck up to blacks like yourself?"
- They don't need to suck up to me. When a white person can actually realize how their race has been at fault for many systems and wrongs that have stretched around the globe it means they're aware. And THAT is a good thing.
Oh cry me a river. I really don't know what you're talking about with Asians hating your white side when Asians themselves love white skin even in their own people, and Asian women, especially in America, love white men. And it often seems to be that Asians try to seek approval from white people.
@ManOnFire you DEMAND that others be humble and bow to you but you mock others who are hurting. you have no compassion. i guess if you can't relate to it, it doesn't exist? maybe you don't know everything about Asians and Asian americans and you could never experience what i've experienced because you're not in my shoes. so go ahead and negate. that's why i'm not being "humble" to you.
@ManOnFire and please stop calling korean men "pretty fem boys"
@COCOCHANEL Oh I have plenty of compassion, but I gotta say I don't know where I stand on this. It's very odd.
"and please stop calling korean men "pretty fem boys"
- I don't recall having ever called Korean men that. Kpop singers maybe, but not Korean men in general.
@COCOCHANEL I’m not saying you’re racist for having a different experience or being bullied in school. I’m saying that when you say things like “i mean do you only like whites who suck up to blacks like yourself?” To ManOnFire it starts picking up some very racist tones
@0112358 oh I totally agree. People can have isolated experiences but there’s not the same kind of systemic discrimination and I think that’s what some people lose sight of
@BellePepper so you think that if you downplay it as much as possible it makes my experience less relevant? it's not just bullying ok? it is insidious, hurtful, condescending racist comments from all around, work, private including boyfriends. it happened in BOTH north america and asia. to reiterate.
i find it interesting that i poured out some of my dark, painful past and you didn't know how to respond to it so you chose to ignore it and focus on my saying that he likes you, a white person, to suck up to him, a black person. if you look at the comments, what other conclusion can you come to? he praised you for being a white person who "realizes" that whites are all benefitting from being white and doing wrong to minorities. he then went on say that you still need to change a few of your views. ? how are you picking up racist tones from me pointing this out? it's like you're a bot who only reacts to certain words.
@COCOCHANEL I’m not trying to downplay your experiences. I understand this is an emotional topic for you and I’m just not in a good place myself to get emotionally invested in anything as serious as what you’re dealing with. Im sorry if that came off mean or callous. It wasn’t my intention and hope you’re able to get to a better place for yourself
Once again this is an emotional topic for you and I just don’t have the emotional resources to lay it all out for you especially when I’m already pretty sure you know what you’re saying and how it comes across and how it is received.
@BellePepper i know it's hard for you to understand where i'm coming from but my experience most certainly isn't "isolated" i know other part white people who have experienced similar things in asia and/or Asian communities in other countries. i also know whites who experienced racism and violence in california.
i know you are a white person who thinks whites are always the aggressor and never the victim. and definitely never violated or discriminated against. have you ever been to a welfare office? why don't you go to one and watch how whites are treated there? i dare you.
@COCOCHANEL you keep looking at this as a personal issue. But white privilege is systemic.
White privilege is going to the store and knowing they’ll have a doll with your skin color. It’s going down the makeup aisle and seeing people who look like you and being able to choose between many shades that will work for you. It’s being able to go to a hair salon and the hair dresser knowing how to care for your hair.
Once again I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences but sometimes it’s about the bigger picture and people outside of our direct experience
Based on the things mentioned, white privilege is the wrong term. It's majority privilege.
In countries where whites are the majority, there will be certain privileges that whites have because most places cater towards the majority. However this is increasingly changing as western countries become more and more multicultural.
When I go to Asian countries where Asians are the majority, Asians are privileged in these locations.
It all depends on where you are in the world.
@BellePepper lol is that what white privilege is? are those things seriously considered important? i don't even look white and i have extremely coarse black hair and i was never upset about the choice of dolls and their colouring. i had dolls with every hair colour.
you know what DOES bother me? fellow Asians who assumed i was "one of them" up until they find out that i'm eurasian and then immediately and not so subtly shift their stance on me, racially objectify me, inform me in various ways that i am inferior to them because of my genetics, and telling me what my place in society is now and in the future. i'm not saying everyone is mean about it but they are all of the same opinion with very few exceptions.
Asians in general do NOT think whites are superior. whites or other nonasians who are of this opinion have never passed as Asian to know the the inside society.
@COCOCHANEL I agree that the way those people treat you is wrong but do you think that makes it okay for other groups of people to treat other groups that way?
@BellePepper i know you only care about blacks or other minorities being mistreated. no matter that anyone else says you will not change your mind. you are a programmed bot. go to the welfare office or section8 office and watch working class whites get mistreated because of the colour of their skin. it happened to my sister in law and she was physically abused and had a newborn baby. her brother's ex wife who is white became a prostitute in east oakland and got HIV and died. i guess if anything bad happens to whites it's an isolated incident and doesn't deserve attention. i mean please open your eyes. i bet if i was a pure white girl you wouldn't even be talking nicely to me.
Especially white men.
@COCOCHANEL you’re taking all your experiencences and instead of saying “wow it’s unfair and wrong that people treated this way” you’re saying “wow it’s unfair and wrong that **i** was treated this way”
And FYI coco I’ve been one of the white kids standing in line for food stamps and living in the section 8 housing but I still see how it is for people of color on this country
The biggest block of voters the republicans have is Angry White Men!
@BellePepper i think i've talked about the experiences of others in addition to my own. i think i've described what i observed while living in several cities in california some of which were slums.
@BellePepper if you could tell me how working class whites have privilege over working class blacks i would love to hear it because from what i observed most of the subsidized programs were aimed at minorities.
the management and caseworkers at most of the welfare offices are all minorities and obviously only care about helping their own. they don't even try to hide it. i saw minorities getting a lot of assistance.
@BellePepper Well said. I ALSO as a black person grew up on foodstamps and Section 8 when I was a kid and it wasn't easy for me and my family at all. They treat black people like we're all drug addicts or abusing the system when not all of us are.
oh and this is just an isolated event that doesn't deserve attention because the victim was a 16 year old white girl but it really must really suck to get beaten and raped continuously (including with a foreign object) for over 2 hours on school grounds by more than 20 guys who ALL happened to be black and mexican.
this happened in my hometown. i literally grew up with these people. if i hadn't moved i would've attended that school.
it is just so incredibly sad that she was calling her dad to pick her up when it happened and these rapists took the phone and said to her dad that she was good at fucking and sucking? can you imagine how that poor dad felt to hear his own daughter getting raped in the background?
interestly enough, during this 2 hour rape session other students were recording and laughing "haha white girl" and cheering the rapists on. www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...d-homecoming-dance.html
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3389573
@COCOCHANEL I think you are purposefully misunderstanding what I have said and I’m starting to get frustrated
@BellePepper i guess you just can't see past what's been pitched to you for years.
@COCOCHANEL I’m sure you have way more fun things to do than comment on a post that’s more than 7 days old :)
@BellePepper actually no because i have emotional problems from being bullied due to my race and people like you trigger me
@COCOCHANEL oh my goodness coco 😫
@BellePepper well it can't be undone so why not enjoy it?
@COCOCHANEL What do you mean "pitched to you"?
i mean by the media
Angry white men are the base of the republican party
they ain't running the media
@COCOCHANEL It's still white people period who are running it.
@ManOnFire jews are not white people
@COCOCHANEL Ahahaha! Now I KNOW you're a bigot. That's like that ridiculous, paranoid bullshit the Muslims and white supremacists try to say - "Everything is the Jews' fault."
I don't care what you wanna say about how you were treated growing up or how you feel, your experiences are NO EXCUSE for having that much bigotry. Hell, we've all been mistreated because of our race at some point, even white people by black, but most of us don't hate the other side we just hate what they did. I've been racially profiled myself and yet I don't hate white people, I just hate when they're narrow-minded.
But what you are doing is trying to use your experience as an excuse to defend white people and hate other races. Even your own Asian side.
@ManOnFire why are you getting so excited? who exactly did i say i hate?
they're not white and they don't claim to be white. they know that they are the chosen people and above whites. what's wrong with that? they obviously have their own special identity and they don't think whites are better. they might be mixed but in their minds they are special and they are.
@ManOnFire and i don't get why you think you can claim that i'm hating on any race just because i admitted who i was bullied by and the general views of people in the environments i grew up in. why should i hide the race of the bullies?
@COCOCHANEL You've already said in so many words who you hate.
So if you feel like Jews are special then why are you blaming them for the media?
@ManOnFire you didn't even know i was biracial until i corrected you in the comment you made about me, thinking you had me figured out.
i never said i hate anyone? i think i talked about my history of being looked down on and bullied for something i can't control? and i went on and on about how i have not seen nor experienced white privilege. can we not twist my words? it's all written in the comments. thanks.
the jews who run the media are leftist. we all know this. i'm not blaming them for BEING jews.
@COCOCHANEL "you didn't even know i was biracial until i corrected you in the comment you made about me, thinking you had me figured out."
- But now that I know that still makes it worse.
"i never said i hate anyone? i think i talked about my history of being looked down on and bullied for something i can't control? and i went on and on about how i have not seen nor experienced white privilege. can we not twist my words? it's all written in the comments. thanks."
- Your statements from before suggest your hate for people of color. Not to mention you've even said on other posts how you like light skin yourself.
"the jews who run the media are leftist. we all know this. i'm not blaming them for BEING jews."
- You're not blaming them for being Jews, you're blaming Jews for what/how you think the media is, which is the same racist conspiracy theory of other anti-Semitic groups.
@ManOnFire "but now that i know that still makes it worse" what's up with your ego? who do you think you are telling me that my ethnic background makes my opinion "worse" who are you to judge if my opinion is bad or good?
who are you to tell bellepepper that she needs to fix a few things in her opinion?
is YOUR opinion the only correct opinion?
no you WANT my comments to say that so that you can tell me i'm wrong but no where was it implied or inferred that i hate any race. you can't put words in my mouth. it's already written.
what is wrong with liking white skin? that is not inherently a sin you know? why is liking dark skin the correct choice?
i NEVER said i hated any race. you know why? because i don't.
but it's on record (check your question) that you bash korean men because you feel superior to them. you are the biggest hypocrite ever.
@COCOCHANEL Are you doing this as a joke (troll) or are you really that filled with animosity?
i'm just not influenced by the western media. i am not gonna let someone who thinks he's superior to all of us tell me that i said something i didn't say. i'm also not going to be badgered into saying that i believe something i don't believe.
@COCOCHANEL Your ethnic background doesn't make it worse, your views about ethnic people makes it worse because one side of you is ethnic yet you defend whites.
"who are you to tell bellepepper that she needs to fix a few things in her opinion?"
- This is your second time misinterpreting me. I didn't say she needed to fix her opinion, I meant she needs to fix some of what she does on GaG, namely all that bullying.
"what is wrong with liking white skin? that is not inherently a sin you know? why is liking dark skin the correct choice?"
- I also am cool with white females, but not because their skin is white, although plenty of white women can look great because of their skin, but that's not my motive in liking them. Disliking dark skin becomes a problem when a person feels that white skin is supreme.
"you bash korean men because you feel superior to them. you are the biggest hypocrite ever."
- I've bashed Kpoppers, not Korean men in general. I have no problem with them.
@COCOCHANEL Do you beleive that the (news) media has that much influence over what we think? THat would imply that we are all incapable of thinking for ourselves and that the tv, paper and internet control our very thoughts. I neither love nor hate the media but I think some people just get too carried away with it. Opinions are all over the place. I doesn't mean we take it to heart just because it came in the form of print or broadcast. Listening to opinions we don't like CAN lead us to believe some sinister force is brainwashing us, but I reject that idea.
You forgot to add that colleges continually accept non-Asian minorities with less qualifications than whites or Asians.
You can also note that white rappers are far less likely to succeed than black ones and the # of white rappers you can count on one hand in the history of music.
Even white liberal professors are being accused of being racist just by being white.
Whatever privilege you want to say exists goes both ways.
Why do people still entertain this bs 😂😂. All this anti white shit running around in America lol.
Because pointing out thatsome people have certain advantages because of the way they look is TOTALLY anti-white *eyeroll*
Nothing anti white. As I said, I think there’s very little white -advantage- But there are still some hurdles to black success that could be worked on.
They are generally smaller than challenges of poverty, or handicaps, or lack of facility with English etc however.
@NoBullsh1t I don't have any advantages because of
my skin lol 😂. Unlike minorities who have affirmative action. But let's not talk about that.
We can talk about it all day - but if you're white in America, you most certainly have advantages because of your skin, whether you recognize them or not.
@NoBullsh1t the people who talk about white privilege are also very silent about affirmative action. I wonder why?
Couldn't tell you, I'm of an entirely mixed opinion regarding AA and have been directly impacted by it.
India is open to foreigners if they are white. Indian hospitality has earned an international reputation. Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam is a Sanskrit phrase found in Hindu texts such as the Maha Upanishad, which means "the world is one family".
Actually due to affirmative action and other sjw measures being white is a disadvantage.
In some scenarios it is.
Given more black men are in prison than school, I will suggest it doesn’t even out. I think you can put forward an argument that being well off, educated and black affords some opportunities over being well off educated and white. But the typical block person isn’t remotely in a position to take advantage (which is one reason the quotas are stupid).
Barriers should be broken down when identified.
If a black guy is in prison then chances are it is his own fault. If he does something violent than he deserves to be in prison and if he deals of drugs then he should do them in secret.
Sure. But should he black guy be more likely to go to prison than a white guy for the same crime? Should a black guy get s longer sentence for the same crime? Should women get less jail time and shorter sentences then men for the same crimes (they do by the way)?
No but the problem could easily be solved if you have machines dispense automated sentences based upon your actions.
I’m not sure the best solution but where we can identify actual things that are biased or unfair against whatever group we should try to get rid of the problem.
You have to understand that the countermeasures against traditional bigots by sjws have gone so far in the other direction that I would actually support the Ku Klux Klan over most sjws.
Yes, sjws have gotten *that* bad.
SJW in general are not as powerful as you're suggesting, with the exception of the impact of embedded 2nd (not 3rd) wave feminists on legal thought processes around family courts and a few other legal areas. However, they ARE powerful on campus, and that does make me concerned about the future.
Supporting fascist/alt-right types however is like oxygen to their fire (and vice versa). What's needed is continued commitment to civil liberties, freedoms, and fair treatment of individuals. Groups should be looked at when we note that they are being discriminated against as a group to try to remove that discrimination. extremists on the left and right feed off each other and use the other extreme as a bogeyman to try to convince more centrist moderates that extremism is needed to fight extremism. Fascists and Marxists need each other. What would be ideal is for the moderate left to check the extreme left and the moderate right to check the extreme right.
Which is what I try to do.
Any little edge you have, it's magnified by a lot when it comes to the game of life
It can be the difference...
I have yet to meet a White person whose musings on White privilege I can actually take seriously.
Do you think there are enough racists on this site or what?
Wow... Like the ideology is like that thing that simply doesn't work... communism.
For a white privileged system, it surely fails to hold down the minority of minorities: Asians.
Concur strongly. Which is why I’d suggest there appears to be more of a black-penalty than a white bonus. (And as I’ve repeatedly said, the poverty penalty is bigger).
I always pondered if it’s a cultural thing or just the matter of the environment; I know one issue is the single motherhood and broken home factor. No stability for the children has caused an increase in crime.
Poverty (and some poverty among black Americans can be attributed to racial impacts on their grandparents and great grandparents), home stability having two parents etc explain a lot. Some people would say it explains 100% and my argument is essentially - no, not 100%.
The poverty issue appears to be the government incentivizing the welfare program and people having kids. The more kids you have the more money you will get. I will say that the lack of government involvement in the Asian community has seemed more beneficial but this is merely an observation.
White privilege is a myth.
There is no white privilege if 90% of your country is white.
Whites liberals are too f kucking stupid to notice theyre weakening minorities by talking so much about this shit and not enough about self-healing in the black/brown community
I might be a bit biased since I'm a regular on Tumblr, but... yeah I don't know
depends some people even talk better than american"s , yeah racism is there in US at some level and police is not that best at their work
Everyone is a human.
Everyone is a child of god.
Whether white, black, Asian it just doesn't matter.
If someone speaks British English, is considered inferior in the US?
I -doubt- it, but I might be wrong. But heavily accented ESL will hold back your ability to say become a sales person or do other things and can impact hiring. and if you have a really heavy accent of some rural areas in the u. s., I suspect you're treated differently in some other areas.
There's no point in speaking about this on here this is a majority white site so you know they will object to this without bringing any rock solid evidence that white privilege doesn't exist.
The main issue is most people are locked into cheering for whatever they think is their side. One of the highest upvoted opinions was a woman who said she stopped reading. Many people have said “it’s not race it’s money” which I have said over and over is more significant.
White privilege doesn’t exist and I’m a minority of minority’s
Not about white or black or red or yellow or brown. All about the green.
There are plenty of poor white people everywhere. For every two poor black people, there is one poor white person.
There are indeed. And I would agree (as I think I said) that poverty matters more than race in the west.