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No point in outlawing what can't be outlawed. It doesn't matter how hard you try or how many people you arrest, prostitution will always be a thing. People who refuse to accept that are morons.
It's a sad business. I don't know if I want to live in a world where that's legal. It'll probably normalize prostitution and a lot of women who would normally dabble in it may. Please don't pretend this would be progress or that it would change lives for the better.
Agree , it WILL always go on , so why not legalise and sanitise it , this removes the pimps that make prostitutes lives hell too.
Sorry, I've never discussed this before; could you please explain for me what prostitution is exactly?
It's when someone gives sexual favours in exchange for money.
That's not legal? Wow, nobody listens to that law. It's not working anyways, just take it down.
Each state is different. In some states it's illegal to be the prostitute (the person selling him or herself), or it's illegal to be the one exchanging money. Some can be both.
Men are so gross that they enjoy sex with people who don’t want them.
They want my money, they want me.
Not the same thing.
Well, I don't want them either. Just a quick BJ or vaginal access for a few minutes.
Isn't the porn industry pretty much legal prostitution?
Two people getting paid to have sex with other people. It certainly has parallels. It is confusing how that is legal, but not the other, but make no mistake; the same people who keep prostitution at arm's length legally would shut down the porn industry in a heartbeat if they could.
I think sexbots will come before the discussion can go further. And no, those bots are not and they never be human so please forget those movies or TV where they become sentient
I'm not sure about legalizing prostitution.
Prostitution is already legal in my country and we get a lot of hate from our neighbors for it.
They're just jealous and which country is that?
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Yeah it's the big debate, it gets people very emotional. It's legal in my country, the cops busted up a lot of illegal brothels recently, because they had time to fight real crime.
Which country, if I may ask?
Sydney Australia.
Disagree. I had a relative that was an escort. I wouldn't wish that on anyone I didn't hate.
Legalize Prostitution is certain parts of the country, increase income taxes on it.
Or just put income taxes on it. They don't need to be any different than anyone else's. They'll be in generally high brackets anyway
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1) It's still a non constructive thing to society.
2) It's unproductive.
3) If additional expenses are incurred to create the system and legalize it then it needs to be funded somehow.
It wouldn't just be the prostitutes generating tax revenue. It's also be the Brothel owner, any administrative staff, plus the patrons themselves with any sales taxes. There would be plenty of opportunity for income.
The business itself, too, I might add
Not gonna happen based on the NIMB principle ( not in my backyard). Nobody wants a brothel near where they live.
It doesn't have to be in the same town. ;) Las Vegas doesn't hold a brothel.
In a dense area of living you won't find one. Someplace like the greater Las Vegas area you may not be so lucky.
In Nevada it's already legal. I think it should stay there.
Nah. Out needs to branch out. Help get women and children of the streetsin more places.
It already is in parts of Nevada, as well as in much of Europe and Asia. I heard Canada might legalize it.
It's legal here and kind of just a thing most people don't think about or see effects of.
actually it has NEVER been illegal here
Unfortunately, pedophilia will be legalized before pussy can be sold on the open market.
That's a pretty extreme claim, and I highly doubt it.
In germany they got brothels or bordels for that. It's legal too I think. But supervised.
It is legal, but there is still a problem with sex trafficing.
this is never gonna happen. there is a difference between waitress and a stripper, or model and a call-girl
Aside from job reschedule, there is zero. They're human beings making a living.
there is plenty-for instance-they aren't willing to spread their legs for absolute strangers for a little green
It'd be for a lot of green. And don't assume you know what they are willing to spread for what. Everyone has a price, and it's not always money they do it for. Men and women. And, there's nothing wrong with what they do. They need to get paid to.
The definition of prostitution is having sex for money. Then they should aim for actual job
And yeah-there is-it's a trashy job that shows a lack of morals, a lack of self-respect, and a lack of concern for their own safety
If they're utilizing protection and contraceptives, then they clearly respect themselves.
Morality is subjective.
"IF" even if they are-they kinda have to keep whoring themselves out. No, it's not
no their peaces of fuck flesh for those who pay for it, their scum disgusting id spit on them i hate them so much they make me sick. okay if morality is subjective then explain how moral it is to sell your pussy, anus or any other orifice for any dick that has cash money to pay for it, exlain please do because if any other reasonable person or father looked at it they might say, huh well having sex with any man or woman shows they have a lack of value of their body by letting any and every cock slide in them and then getting paid to do so shows they have a price tag on their body making them nothing less then a product of paid pussy, so no its not a morally acceptable job. utilizing condoms and pills only tells me a few things 1 that they want to have a decently long career being a cock whore dont want an std (which the average person doesn't want), and they dont want to raise a kid born by a whore.
no you are in fact wrong there are plenty of men and women out in the world that wouldn't get fucked or fuck for money, assuming everyone has a price is just as foolish as assuming everyone doesn't
what is wrong with you, why are you trying to make whoring yourself like a worthless ohh excuse me not worthless cause according to your logic everyone has a price so everyone's worth something, piece of trash seem like something okay today in a 21st century nation, this isn't rome were being a whore is something of a social class this is 2018 America were it is not. deal with it your idea is flawed and shows a lack of human morality and how you value women, disgusting you are.
@Stalin69 do you even know what prostitution even is? It's exactly that-people spreading their legs for money
@Stalin69 those types of women don't value themselves
exactly my point was that those who engage in prostitution and the soliciting prostitutes are by definition amoral
i agree that was my point.
i know what it is do you understand the context of my comments. its disgusting and amoral by definition, do you understand that.
@Stalin69 oh, I thought you where talking to me-I'm sorry. that's another change that needs to be made to this site-can't respond directly to the asker when commenting on another's conversation-makes it confusing
@Stalin69 Plus-8 years of rough nights don't help
Morality IS subjective. We all have a different belief on what is right and wrong, and even where we agree, there are grey areas. Murder is wrong in just about every civilization in the world, including the United States. However, when our leaders want to, they can simply bomb an isolated village, killing civilians and soldiers for whatever reasons they justify it with.
If a person murders a person, some believe it's okay to give them the death penalty, even though it is still murder.
Suicide is wrong to some people, to others, that's a personal
Stealing is wrong unless you're starving and poor with no options, depending who you talk to.
If a person is deathly sick, goes to a hospital and gets turned away, or undertreated because he or she does not have health insurance, that is acceptable in some circles, appaling in others. To you, someone selling themselves is immoral, but to someone else, clearly there is a different opinion.
Is suicide immoral? Assisted suicide of term-ill?
it's only subjective within the mind-in my mind-i'm baman.
ohh apologies sabertooth
@Stalin69 no problem-it was my mistake
@manwithblueballs, you son of a bitch i spent all night researching PAS ( physician assisted suicide) how dare you bring that up Jesus Christ, ok so yes i do believe one has the right to end their suffering within accordance to the law that is why 7 states have a die with dignity clause which allows those who are terminally ill to take a lethal dose of medication a muscle relaxant and something else to stop the heart i believe, why do i believe this you may ask because any family would never wish to watch their loved one deteriorate in their last days why not go out on your terms while you can still make that choice with content and logic. i do think that mercy killing at the request of the recipient of the killing is moral. NO just because your poor and hungry doesn't make it objectively ok to steal however it is whats necessary for your survival in some cases in such a harsh and un forgiving world but again that doesn't make it okay, you still are usually punished.
but some may have pity or sympathize with you because you were hungry. you could make that same straw man argument but instead say that condemning a man to life in confinement is just as bad because in the end he dies as a result of his crime therefore he is still killed just took longer to get killed, horrible i know right. do you even know the definition of murder in case you dont here it is,
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. so the government boys (soldiers), the death penalty, solitary confinement, self defense all the straw mans you can pull out your ass i can use as fertilizer for my argument the definition of murder contradicts what you see as murder, killing one who has taken another life that wasn't within the confines of the law ie self defense is therefore by definition not murder. suicide in and of itself is not immoral that is a more case by case basis, for example do you believe it was immoral for Adolf Hitler to kill himself and why.
speaking on the leaders who do these things you claim. no just because they do it and do it at their whim doesn't make it ok thats why every time they did do it they didn't broadcast it on live tv with the slogan '' hey were killing terrorist ", i do have a problem with the hundred thousand or so Iraqi and afghan civilians that were killed during the bombings in the early 2000s (operation Iraqi freedom anyone) agree the government is shady and retarded but that doesn't make what they do moral or ok just because they can and do it. and in those political situations there much much more we jut dont know in order to make a just and logic decisive judgement. morals keep us in bounds of sanity without morals what separates us from the lion male killing a rivals cubs and then mating with said cubs mothers or the crocodile mother whos basically starving from guarding her eggs finally when they hatch eating her children? some neurons and a more complex brain.
im glad someone else on this has some sense of moral dignity.
@Stalin69 thanks-though i do think suicide is immoral. i think hitler killing himself was immoral-but i doubt people were too broken up about it-though saying hitler killing himself was immoral is pretty ironic
i would like to know why you believe that. what makes it immoral. as i said in cases of suicide its a case by case basis for example there's that a huge difference between a man dying of tuberculosis that requests a PAS and a man in an air port that blows himself up, surely both are suicide but under different pretenses and there fore each has a spectral degree for which we call moral or immoral.
@Stalin69. Life is a sacred thing. suicide in many cases-is a selfish act-think about how it could affect one's family. It's also a cowardly act-an easy way out-which can be used to avoid the consequences of one's actions.
@Sabertooth So, you're saying that someone who is dying of a terminal disease, slowly and painfully, like cancer, is a coward for not wanting to suffer any longer? What about terminal degenerative diseases that force you to be at the mercy of a nurse or family member. If a person who has lost all dignity (a word that has been used in this thread already) is immoral not wanting to live like that anymore? That's "cowardly"?
everyone one suffer's from somethin. i suffer from a rotten childhood, a poor rep, loss of everyone i ever loved, was robbed a chance to be with the girl i loved, never having any privacy, guild for hurting the girl i love, i suffer from people constantly trying to cause drama, numerous set backs to fix things with her. no one wants to suffer-but yes, i do feel suicide is the cowards way out-a way of saying ''i give up''.
i agree to an extent but wouldn't you agree that the quality of ones life outweighs being alive, there's a big difference in being alive and living you see what im saying and im only speaking in cases of terminally ill patients that seek a just ad dignified death on their terms wouldn't you agree that one cannot have truly lived until he or she has died. again only speaking in cases of terminally ill people. you are correct but those like i said are case by case situations we cannot brand the same sticker on one thing when its not equivocal to the other. and in cases were family is involved again what are we talking about here a depressed and bullied teenager that shoots up a school then shoots himself, a self medicated husband whos depressed that blows his brains out, a terrorist that blows himself up or a dying man thats suffering.
yes but the family isn't the one whos dead you see. the only true victim is the one whos a rotting corpse.
@Stalin69 it is to those who loved them-like a mother, a father, a wife or a husband, or a child.
you are correct it can be used as an escape from ones consequences such as in Hitlers case, but no one is or was going shed a tear for such a grotesque human beings the only moral thing Hitler ever did in his life was pull that damn trigger , Hitlers life was not sacred it was tainted by malice and evil. in cases were someone is terminally ill i dont see suicide or mercy killing as cowardly it would take a a lot of courage to decide right then and now at that moment that its my time and im ready to go and go out on my terms with a fucking smile on my face and sad and strangely beautiful thing a person can do. do not mistake me im not glorifying death or taking your own life but i also understand what it means to suffer.
@Stalin69 hence the whole irony revolving hitler. it's courage to kill yourself-it takes courage to live.
@Stalin69 i'm reminded of a quote from a long time ago...
sabretooth you sound like the average American dude in his twenties we've all been there we've all done that most of what you said anyway, but most dudes dont know what its like to suffer from a degenerative dieseise for which there is no cure unless they have aids or hiv, Cancer: Most cancers can either become terminal or be diagnosed as such including breast cancer and lung cancer.
Lukemia.
AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome)
Lesch-Nyhan Syndrome.
Heart Disease such as Severe Coronary Artery Disease.
Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever. these kind of things in these situations whom are you to call a coward a man who wishes to die with content on his own terms instead of die from an irreversible condition for which he has no cure of.
you are no longer moving forward in those situations you are simply running in place slowly sinking until you suffocate from your effortless struggle, you are not giving up you are excepting fate which we all have to do.
@Stalin69 let's not bring age into this-i'm 7 years older than you-going on 8. there's always hope-i have a friend who has had throat cancer-last i saw him-he was happy. killing yourself instead of fighting to get better is cowardly. i'm sure more have these illnesses than we know
@Stalin69 ''fate'''' bah!
they aren't dead though they aren't choosing ones death, the individual the only one who is truly suffering is the only one who gets to choose what when and how they die if that is a route they choose, i said Hitler killing himself was moral i never said it was courageous there's a difference between the 2 you see. it also takes courage, maturity and a sense of dignity to realize when your at your end and when to call it a day and rest forever those kinda situations happen are afforded to lucky people who can still function. and also would you consider a DNR (do not resuscitate) is the same as suicide and to specify these are specifically issued when an individual cannot breath on his or her own and has little chance of doing so or what about removing a feeding tube from a loved one or they already have it in their living will they wish to die then be a vegetable pvs ( persistent vegetated state) do you believe then that these are also suicides and therefore they are immoral.
@Stalin69 do you know anyone who has lost someone because of suicide?
what does my age have to do with anything, im quite competent for 20 year old no? anyway anyone can get cancer at almost any age, so how old you are has nothing to do with anything and is irrelevant in this discussion yes im sure you've experienced things i have not but thats unique to every person so whether its seven years or 3 minutes were different what we experience is different and how we do is as well. you hurt a girl you loved well tough i lost my right hand to my stupidity you lost loved ones all of em well i had only my mother and i didn't get to tell my mother i loved her before she died after ignoring her for 3 years tough, you have no privacy, welcome to the 21st century, you had a rough childhood which, i watched my father rape my mother in front of me for years until his death oh well. nothing you or i experienced the pain i mean can compare to that of some other folk who suffer everyday
yes why
@Stalin69 you're the one who brought age into this. i'm not gonna play the game of who had it worse
@Stalin69 then you know it hurts loved ones
sorry that wasn't my point.
@Stalin69 alright
when did i mention age
@Stalin69 ''sabretooth you sound like the average American dude in his twenties''
yes it can hurt families but they aren't the one whos dead nor the one who suffered in order to take their life
@Stalin69 i wouldn't they didn't suffer-depending on the situation.
my point of saying all that was i understand suffering and i can respect one whos got it worse then i and chooses to end thier suffering who are we to say there cowards, mhmh
@Stalin69 i respect those who are strong to fight through whatever the issue is-it can always get better.
explain who else suffered besides the person thats now a corpse. and i wasn't trying to play who had it worse
@Stalin69 children and parents as well as close friends.
@Stalin69 worst case-a single parent-hell, some suffer for what led to another commiting suicide
i can respect those people as well no doubt, but do you not agree that deciding to die takes strength. that it can always get better verse is old as time itself its like when your in a burning house and your mother tells you everything's gonna be alright even though she knows that her and her child are going to die. yes in MANY cases it CAN but that doesn't mean it DOES and sometimes it gets worse. will power and the strength to fight doesn't cure illness contrary to popular belief.
@Stalin69 deciding to takes your life is because you've given up-that takes no strength-that's when you've given up.
wow that was vague
still they aren't the one who suffered in order to commit said suicide nor are the dead.
@Stalin69 my father got my mother hooked on drugs and alcohol -it as hell affected me.
ok i admit that fucked up but are either of them dead or did they take their own life
i wouldn't doubt it did
@Stalin69 my ''father''-i doubt it-my mother, however- came close to doing so many times-though-her pain began way before that-though-her past uses and her cigarette smoke did give her a bad heart-plus the a few extra stessers eventually took its tole on her-she died before 40-she did keep her promise, though.
what was that
@Stalin69 to not commit suicide ever again. once, i even had to threaten to commit suicide myself to stop her
her promise i mean
@Stalin69 to never attempt suicide again
damn
@Stalin69 she was strong-the girl I loved reminds me of her-including in the temper department.
mhmh i see
Legal prostitution already exists. It's called marriage and alimony (AKA "spousal support")
Free market for female bodies...
Or males. Let's not discriminate here. They aren't as prevalent, but male prostitutes do exist.
They exist but you don't find them in brothels or red light districts, as far as I know.
Actually, they generally only exist in brothels, if imagine. A street male-hooker, of adult age, would not do well, I'd imagine. I read somewhere that the Nevada Bunny Ranch had one male prostitute. Former military who can't get work because of his PTSD. That's the only I know of off hand.
well, try to find a male escort who isn't gay.
The one I mentioned. He's not gay. He mentioned how he is dependent on Viagra because he services women need not usually attracted too, and men, and he's not are all attracted to then. Could be bi, but I don't have a reason not to believe him.
its called dating, hell even hookups