If you consented to sex then you have consented to reproduction as well. We know that at least in the United States that the amount of abortions due to rape/incest is extremely small. I would like to see the number of supposed illegal abortions vs the number of women who choose to abort their children where it's legal.
So your reasoning for supporting abortion is because throughout history, women have died trying to escape pregnancy? In the Civil War, a great number of people died trying to keep slavery... Yet you probably don't support bringing back slavery. Who cares what other people have died trying to do? People die for stupid and wrong stuff every day. Also, the only time children are forced upon someone, is when that someone is raped. And rape is only the reason for abortions in 1% of cases.
In pre-Christian Europe abortion was accepted, but not for all reasons. Its Christianity that took away these practices.
Also Cicero talks in one of his books about a court case where a woman in Rome was put to death because she had conspired with her in laws to abort all her pregnancies and would receive a portion of the husband's wealth if he could not produce an heir. His family would receive it upon his death. Abortion was definitely not accepted in all cases.
in my opinion ideally, there wouldn’t be abortions, but people are going to have abortions anyway so I’d rather them be safe and the abortion be successful instead of having a bunch of quasimotos hanging around.
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i don't care when it's started. murder is murder and yes murder has occurred throughout the history. and i'm sure you know that in the case of Roe vs Wade, the woman renounced abortion later in her life and regretted letting 2 blood thirsty lawyers use her for getting publicity. she was an anti-abortion christian when she died
Yeah, she also said that was raped by a gang of black men and retracted that, said she was lesbian and retracted that... it seems like she had a lot of 'oh wait jk' moments going on in her life with important decisions. She changed her mind so she could make books and play the victim
exactly! she said women should have the right to abortion and she retracted that. the only notoriety she got was during her legal case so if she ever played the victim it was then not when she regretted everything.
Yes and what I'm saying is she didn't seem to be of sound mental state if she could so easily withdraw something and changed her mind in just an instant. After failing to get an abortion by lying about a gang rape, she was entered into the legal system and would report that she had been raped and then that she hadn't been raped. She constantly changed her mind and played the victim later, as you said when she was 'taken advantage' of by her lawyers.
so all the legal precedent of abortion in west is based on the testimony of an unhinged woman? i'm not surprised because only an insane person would say it's okay to kill a 9 month old infant. and this is not the only time feminists and leftists in general have used deranged people as pawns. Greta Thunburg?
Outlawing it does lead to unsafe practices, agreed.
But we should still do everything possible to avoid performing them, they should not be normalized in any way and should be regarded as what they are, murder of one too weak to defend themselves at the hands of their own mother, a truly vile act.
I agree that they should be made rare. You would think the "pro-life" crowd would be all for easier access to quality birth control. Yet that usually isn't the case; quite the opposite in fact.
Abortion is totally wrong in present times if you see it as a way of birth control. It is only acceptable in cases of rape, when pregnancy is danger for a mother's life or in cases of some great malfomations on fetus.
Okay sweetie, it isn't killing a baby. It's at most a clump of cells and I don't support them past a certain point. But go ahead, say some snarky little thing 🙄🤡
Nobody is forcing a child upon you, we're preventing you from murdering an innocent human life for your convenience because you chose not to use condoms and/or contraception and can't bear the consequences for it.
Great MyTake, but unfortunately I have to disagree with you cause even if by normal standards abortion is a solution to a problem morally it's not correct. Just because it exists and still does, it doesn't mean that it should be normalized.
Aside from the moral part, when you decide to have sex willingly knowing you might get pregnant then want to undo your pregnancy it shows you're an irresponsible person
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Every pro lifer should be forced to donated organs to people in need. I dont have to give an embryo my uterus to use. As soon as it is in my uterus and it uses it, i have every right to remove it from my body
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If you consented to sex then you have consented to reproduction as well. We know that at least in the United States that the amount of abortions due to rape/incest is extremely small. I would like to see the number of supposed illegal abortions vs the number of women who choose to abort their children where it's legal.
So your reasoning for supporting abortion is because throughout history, women have died trying to escape pregnancy? In the Civil War, a great number of people died trying to keep slavery... Yet you probably don't support bringing back slavery. Who cares what other people have died trying to do? People die for stupid and wrong stuff every day. Also, the only time children are forced upon someone, is when that someone is raped. And rape is only the reason for abortions in 1% of cases.
Slavery involved people, not zygotes.
@zagor So when in pregnancy does it become unacceptable to abort?
In pre-Christian Europe abortion was accepted, but not for all reasons. Its Christianity that took away these practices.
Also Cicero talks in one of his books about a court case where a woman in Rome was put to death because she had conspired with her in laws to abort all her pregnancies and would receive a portion of the husband's wealth if he could not produce an heir. His family would receive it upon his death. Abortion was definitely not accepted in all cases.
in my opinion ideally, there wouldn’t be abortions, but people are going to have abortions anyway so I’d rather them be safe and the abortion be successful instead of having a bunch of quasimotos hanging around.
i don't care when it's started. murder is murder and yes murder has occurred throughout the history. and i'm sure you know that in the case of Roe vs Wade, the woman renounced abortion later in her life and regretted letting 2 blood thirsty lawyers use her for getting publicity. she was an anti-abortion christian when she died
Yeah, she also said that was raped by a gang of black men and retracted that, said she was lesbian and retracted that... it seems like she had a lot of 'oh wait jk' moments going on in her life with important decisions. She changed her mind so she could make books and play the victim
exactly! she said women should have the right to abortion and she retracted that. the only notoriety she got was during her legal case so if she ever played the victim it was then not when she regretted everything.
Yes and what I'm saying is she didn't seem to be of sound mental state if she could so easily withdraw something and changed her mind in just an instant. After failing to get an abortion by lying about a gang rape, she was entered into the legal system and would report that she had been raped and then that she hadn't been raped. She constantly changed her mind and played the victim later, as you said when she was 'taken advantage' of by her lawyers.
so all the legal precedent of abortion in west is based on the testimony of an unhinged woman? i'm not surprised because only an insane person would say it's okay to kill a 9 month old infant. and this is not the only time feminists and leftists in general have used deranged people as pawns. Greta Thunburg?
No, its based on the situation that a woman went through, they just used her case specifically
There's just one problem - it's killing an unborn child.
Abortion is not the solution for irresponsible sex. That's why got invented birth control. ;)
Outlawing it does lead to unsafe practices, agreed.
But we should still do everything possible to avoid performing them, they should not be normalized in any way and should be regarded as what they are, murder of one too weak to defend themselves at the hands of their own mother, a truly vile act.
I agree that they should be made rare. You would think the "pro-life" crowd would be all for easier access to quality birth control. Yet that usually isn't the case; quite the opposite in fact.
Easier to access? It’s called going down to the store and buying birth control smh
That's fine, but not everyone has a corner drugstore, or a car. Or much money.
Nope thats dumb shut up lol. If you can afford a mcdouble you can afford a fking condom
Unless her domineering boyfriend doesn't like using them...
Then she can breakup
Abortion is totally wrong in present times if you see it as a way of birth control. It is only acceptable in cases of rape, when pregnancy is danger for a mother's life or in cases of some great malfomations on fetus.
If I could write like you in history, I wouldve gotten an A**(highest GCSE grade)
Imagine if a woman got raped, but wasn't ready to have a baby. I think then abortion should definatelyyyyy be allowed.
I learnt that in RE
How nice that it's acceptable to kill a baby. I couldn't think of a nicer thing to put me in a good mood today.
Okay sweetie, it isn't killing a baby. It's at most a clump of cells and I don't support them past a certain point. But go ahead, say some snarky little thing 🙄🤡
"It's at most a clump of cells."
Okay. So then what exactly are YOU made of? Cement? Metal? By that logic, you and I are only larger clumps of cells.
I mean, we’re so overpopulated that we should be killing off already alive people, lmfao, sooooo...
We can start by killing women after they get an abortion
Wtf nadim
I'm kidding, I'd never approve of this
Outlawing abortion is merely a way to ensure plenty of military recruits
Abortion has been around since forever and it's only become a problem recently as a political tool for gaining easy votes.
Its simple.
Women can die by having babies... MOST PEOPLE DONT WANT TO DIE
Women don't want a baby and can't put it up adoption... THATS HER CHOICE
Nobody is forcing a child upon you, we're preventing you from murdering an innocent human life for your convenience because you chose not to use condoms and/or contraception and can't bear the consequences for it.
Great MyTake, but unfortunately I have to disagree with you cause even if by normal standards abortion is a solution to a problem morally it's not correct. Just because it exists and still does, it doesn't mean that it should be normalized.
Great take. Too many ignorant religious people on this site.
Aside from the moral part, when you decide to have sex willingly knowing you might get pregnant then want to undo your pregnancy it shows you're an irresponsible person
Every pro lifer should be forced to donated organs to people in need. I dont have to give an embryo my uterus to use. As soon as it is in my uterus and it uses it, i have every right to remove it from my body
Every pro lifer should be forced to donate organs to people in need. **
You forget to also include Moloch worship and Nazi abortion eugenics to wipe out minority populations.