My View on Whether or Not Abortion Should Be Banned

[NatashaJ]

Today I felt like expressing my opinion on this matter, but to be honest I don't care what you have to say: I believe abortion should be legal for various reasons. I want to explain why I feel this way. We can debate but keep it civil in the comments below. I am going to bring up America since they have an issue with this topic and other parts of the world as well.

Why I think abortion should be legal:

In America people want abortion AND birth control banned

https://www.xojane.com/issues/anti-choicers-now-trying-to-ban-your-birth-control

This is being reported and quite frankly I find it outrageous. Clearly these extremists want people to be abstinent, though research shows there less teen pregnancies occur when abstinence was not being taught to be use as main birth control. Now if abortion does get banned then birth control should as well. But why would you put people in this position? I see no reason to ban birth control and abortion when it helps millions of people across the globe. I also brought up birth control because if abortion does get ban in America so will birth control.

I personally think that women who do not want abortions or men for that matter should not have an opinion whether abortions should be ban or not

There I said it. Let the hate come; I don't care because this is how I feel. I am totally fine with people not wanting to do abortions or thinks it's not right. But if you never plan to have an abortion then why does it matter if others want to? There need to be CHOICES for people you can't have it your way 100%. I think if you never want an abortion then why is your opinion matter? It shouldn't because let's face it not everyone is having an abortion; just a small group of women.

I don't see why you would care so much whether what a other person does with their child. If you are not the parent of the child you have no say what is happening to the fetus. I also think men shouldn't have the right to make laws banning abortion when its not their issue, it's a women issue so how can a man say its right for all women that abortion is banned? Personally I think lawmakers need to be biased and no ill feelings towards abortions. Not people with strong views of banning abortions.

Banning abortions will kill many women and promotes illegal practices.

Many people didn't know that when abortion was illegal in the past many women died. You know how they died? Getting a illegal abortions. Look, if you ban abortion that won't stop women from getting one. Today they have a way to have a safe abortion where they mostly likely not going to die from having a abortion. When abortion was illegal many died due to the fact it was an illegal practice and doctors gained money from this without the government knowing.

Also, they made shortcuts in these abortions because there was no one to stop them. I'm sorry, I felt saving citizens who pay taxes, work and contribute to society in their own ways should be protected from illegal practices that could cost their live. I also feel the woman who has an abortion is not as bad as the doctor who willing to kill many women from illegal abortions for money.

[Prettygurl12]

I agree 100%

You hit all the major points.

It's not anyone's business what a woman does with her fetus except hers and perhaps the father of said fetus - if he wasn't a ONS.

If you don't want to abort, that's awesome - don't. But don't you dare think that you can control what others do. Pro-Choice people do not go around advocating the killing of all unborn babies. Pro-Life people, however, go around promoting the birth of them all - no matter the circumstances surrounding their birth or the life they will be born into.

And honestly, sometimes the quality of life said child would receive is not better than not being born. Children born to unloving parents, children born to go directly into the foster care system, children born addicted to drugs, children born with intense deformities... it goes on and on. Is being born really worth it?

[NatashaJ]

I so agree and I don't see why it bothers them so much babies every day it happens.

[NatashaJ]

Just get over it and this is coming from women who finds babies one of the best things out there.

[Prettygurl12]

I get it. But I also get that it's none of my business what another woman chooses to do with her vagina.

[NatashaJ]

Exactly and whatever reason it is its not a dumb one I think its brave for a woman to say "I got abortion because I hate kids I don't want to be a mother". Its the truth not every woman wants to be a mother our society needs to accept it and move on.

[Waffles731]

Good take, FYI A lot of Americans are very pro choice

[Anonymous]

Why shouldn't women who don't want abortions have an opinion? They obviously don't want one because they don't like abortions... so just because they don't agree with other women, doesn't mean their opinion is not valid or they shouldn't have an opinion on it. And some women never want an abortion but still agree with you anyway, bet you wouldn't say those ones shouldn't have an opinion.

I personally think people should have the choice, but it shouldn't be as late as it is. In the majority of places, the cut off is 23 weeks, that is a stage of pregnancy where if they baby was born as a preemie, it could live- numerous have been born at 23 weeks and lived. That's not nice at all. Some places even have it later than that.
I also don't agree with it when some girls just don't use birth control properly and have 2 and more abortions... like no, just learn to take your pill properly or get the implant so you don't need to worry about taking it.
If it's done early, and it's not somebody who keeps doing it, I don't care.

Also, one other point. People keep saying this isn't a man's issue at all. That isn't entirely true. The same way an abortion can fuck with a woman mentally after it happens- can happen to guys too. I've known personally a couple who were severely depressed after the ex or girlfriend got an abortion. But realistically, what can we do? Pregnancy can be severe for some women, and some even die... other people can't make those choices for her body- but it isn't entirely not a man's issue still

[NatashaJ]

When I meant women who do not like abortions shouldn't have a opinion I meant in lawmaking you should not have a opinion its not affecting you. Whatever you say or not its not affecting period. Two men shouldn't because most of the time women take on the role of the child carer, a lot of men don't do as much as women do. There a reason why they shouldn't have a word in law about abortions. But if a woman really doesn't want to keep a child and a man does. She going to do it anyway you can't force her to be the mother of your child.

[NatashaJ]

Besides why would a man want a woman who doesn't want his child be the mother of his child?

[Opinion Owner]

I agree you can't force her, and shouldn't. Trust me, i had a very difficult pregnancy and I know how hard it is and would never want any woman who doesn't want it to suffer like that for nothing, just because he wants a kid. Like some women die, it's not a minor thing.. pregnancy changes your body for life, weakens teeth and bones and things like that that nobody talks about. You can't force somebody into that.
As for why he'd want em? Same reason millions of girls decide to have a kid for a man who doesn't want it. Some people just want their kids, regardless of relationship status.
As for only women who want abortions being the only people who get an opinion, again, that just means only one side of the argument gets to talk, and whether we agree with people or not, that's not how we do things here, we let all have a say.

[NatashaJ]

I guess but in America if abortions gets ban again then birth control this time w ill get ban as well. This is why abortion I hope in America won't can't blame. But I feel its a way to keep poor poor if this happens lol or force abstinence on people.

[Opinion Owner]

It won't get banned, trust me. There will always be people who speak about people going backwards, look at Westboro, trump and actual people trying to do KKK meetings... there are always those with strong veiws who think we should all go backwards and change laws to how they were before people had rights or equal opportunities. It won't happen. Let them speak as much as they want, they're in the minority with their veiws. And 100 million zillion gillian percent birth control won't get banned lol, trust me, would never happen. Even if all men hated women it still wouldn't, because men would suddenly never be able to have casual sex or decide not to get a girl pregnant.

[NatashaJ]

Hopefully but states are still trying.

[ginny_weasley]

I agree with this on so many levels. The bottom line is if a woman wants an abortion, she's going to get one. So it should be done by a trained medical doctor not done by herself with a coat hanger in a dark alleyway. Now get ready for the inevitable political shitstorm.

[NatashaJ]

I know I'm waiting for them XD lol

[Rissyanne]

I believe abortion is wrong... for myself. Which would never happen at my age. But I dont have the right to tell anyone else it is wrong. I dont agree with late term abortion only in the case of the mother's life. I do believe people should be more responsible... there are only like a million kinds of birth control. I think it is a personal difficult decision to make. And shouldn't be taken lightly.

[NatashaJ]

At lease with proper birth control education teen pregnancies have been the lowest in decades.

[angelfromsky]

I think it's a personal decision for a woman to keep her baby or not. No one else should have a law about it. About birth control, being human beings both men and women have urge to have sex. There's no precaution in this world that guarantees 100% safety. If you ban any of these two, people would have kids they can't even afford giving education to or giving basic needs = food, clothing, shelter. Moreover, I think birth controls should be over the counter and no fancy prescriptions are required for them.

[Anonymous]

While I can understand why one would be against abortion I wouldn't say it is by choice I'd say it is more about the welfare of the child. If a mom and dad don't want their child then doesn't that mean they would be more likely to neglect, abuse, or abandon them? Maybe it would be better for the child to be sent to heaven and saved from a life of neglect. I am for abstinence and I refuse to have sex until I'm ready to be a dad and the mother is ready to be a mom but others may not be so careful. If I were an unborn fetus I'd rather be put out of my misery than live a life of negelct and/or abuse.

[outmyroom]

This is so right! Best take ever. Guys don't get that they can't impose on our body their opinions. Plus an unwanted child is worse off being alive then not existing. No one can say what we can or can't do to our bodies. I can't believe this is even an issue when there are actual problems in the world.

[NatashaJ]

I agree I wrote this because a question that a under 18 male anonymous says should women be infertile if they get a abortion and he kept calling me sexist when I said your opinion shouldn't matter. I think it was because he had nothing to say because I have a more defense on it.

[outmyroom]

Totally agree. I'm very much for equality but there are some issues that only we should be able to decide on. This is one of them.

[NatashaJ]

I even said I have a more opinion then you because pregnancy can happen to me and it would be my decision then. Not yours since your a male.

[Thisperson98]

I disagree, it takes two to make a baby. So both should make the decision.

[mikemx55]

Ahh, agree, but for totally different reasons that those.
Plus one of your arguments is invalid:
"But if you never plan to have an abortion then why does it matter if others want to?"

I may never want to have a clone, and still believe that cloning people is morally wrong, and is a valid argument: moral and ethics.

[NatashaJ]

But if you trying to prevent others that will not affect your life in any way or form to abortions I don't think you should have a say in law. One this is going to cost a big problem with people.

[mikemx55]

Again, I agree but the way you present it is invalid. With that way of thinking, you could also claim that I have no right to say a word about a murderer sentence, just because the people he killed were not connected to me in any way, and did not affect my life in any way.

It's a dangerous line of thought.

[NatashaJ]

The only want a woman getting a abortion affects you is she aborting your child if not then you have no right to tell her what to do with her child. Just saying babies die every day you just going to have accept it even if they were aborted or not.

[mikemx55]

You totally missed what I said before about ethics and morals. That kind of logic of yours could be used to do the biggest atrocities in life and get away with it.

[NatashaJ]

Well since its true about abortion just mind your damn business if a baby is aborted its not going to destroy your way of life. I don't think you have any right to force to be a parent. I rather have a woman admit she can't or won't be a mother. Then force her to be a mother and hate her kids. Kids are not stupid they know something wrong if their parent treats them in a certain way. There plenty of stories of woman plain realize they hate their children and never wanted a child in the first place.

[NatashaJ]

Just go online you even see women writing how they realize they wanted children and how they wish they can go back and not pregnant.

[NatashaJ]

Those women can just save their children grief by getting a abortion or using birth control or having her tubes tie. Then put up with their children and in the end say I hate them. Its pretty fuck up to say you hate your kids.

[mikemx55]

Yes I agree with that last reply of yours, I said that from the very beginning. For those reasons that you stated now, and not the previous logic.

[Anonymous]

You failed because you do not grasp the central points of why abortion is wrong.

It's not about women or men, or about promotes illegal practices or not, nor can you say men should not have an opinion, because it's about morals, ethics and most importantly the human rights of the unborn child.

You failed because you presume the unborn child is not a child, this is the single issues that divides the two sides. When is the child a child, that is the key and the ONLY issues worth considering.

[NatashaJ]

You just assume I don't think a unborn child is a child it is, but I rather have the child be aborted if its better for the woman life or the child life. Plus I still think abortion should be legal because lets fact its none of my business or yours what a woman does with her baby. Mind your own business and take of your kids.

[Opinion Owner]

"I rather have the child be aborted if its better for the woman life or the child life "- you can't judge that, more so it's not your decision to make on somebodies else's behalf.

"Plus I still think abortion should be legal because lets fact its none of my business or yours what a woman does with her baby" - It is the states business, hence why born baby killings are punishable by death in certain states and countries.

"Mind your own business and take of your kids" - sorry we can't, that is why we have criminal laws in the first place. It's not a personal matter when you have a victim.

[NatashaJ]

Abortion is not crime right now so just because you think its a crime does not mean it is. Its a crime if a woman aborted her baby too late. Since most women follow the law of abortion they can do what they please. Seriously you should really mind your own business and life if abortion bothers you so much.

[NatashaJ]

I think a woman would know if having a pregnancy would affect her life or the child life would be affect so yeah I can say what i want.

[NatashaJ]

This mytake is also talking about places where abortion is legal. But please go do research about ban abortion countries I bet any money there big issues in those countries with abortions being ban.

[Opinion Owner]

It was also not a crime to hold salves once, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right or just.

No women don't know how a pregnancy would affect her life or the child life, years on. If you are ignorant to NOT get pregnant, you are too ignorant to know.

[NatashaJ]

There plenty of women who goes to the doctor and would know whether she die or not besides 35 and up having getting risks of have problems in her pregnancy. Same with teens 13-18. But what do you know? I haven't gotten you have a penis. Maybe you should keep your opinion to yourself because abortion does saves lives. Why should alk to you sound like a nut job you bringing salves into this? really? abortion is not murder since it can easily be argued that a baby has to be born to be a human. So sit down. Just your opinion but your opinion shouldn't be involve since your a man. Plus if you against why even add in your opinion. Also its slaves not salves.

[Opinion Owner]

"But what do you know?" - quite a bit actually, since I am actually a medical doctor.
"I haven't gotten you have a penis" - sexist statement, to claim a penis disqualifies an opinion.
"Maybe you should keep your opinion to yourself because abortion does saves lives" - no more than you should you your opinion to yourself. Abortions have a murder victim 100% of the times.
"abortion is not murder since it can easily be argued that a baby has to be born to be a human" - this is what divides those who are pro or against, the view on the unborn child's humanity.

There can be argues for or against everything, but that doesn't make your argument right medically or morally.

[NatashaJ]

Sorry I don't want to believe a doctor who telling me abortion is not right even though abortion can save a woman life if she needed to aborted to not die. Clearly your personal opinions is affecting your work and you should have a review on your medical license I don't see how your opinion is not affecting your job.

[Opinion Owner]

"Sorry I don't want to believe a doctor who telling me abortion is not right even though abortion can save a woman life if she needed to aborted to not die."

Free abortion is not about the life of the mother, I have never argued against abortion in order to safe the mothers life, but do you know what percentage of abortions where that is the case?

"Clearly your personal opinions is affecting your work" - no it does not, and I do not have to agree with the political decision made when making the current law.

"you should have a review on your medical license" - you know nothing - Job Snow - about how medical licenses works apparently. It's not based on personal political opinions or morals, but rather if I do my job as I should professionally.

[NatashaJ]

SO if a woman wanted a abortion from you you telling you still do it or you wouldn't?

[Opinion Owner]

I obviously can't do that, in my country doctors personal opinions are exactly that, our opinions, it doesn't effect our work. Just like soldiers doesn't have to agree with a war, in order to fight it, they do as they are told and so do we.

Besides we do not do abortion in my department, I work mainly with with infections and other medicinal required ailments.

[NatashaJ]

OK fair enough that's a better response but I still believe abortions are fine,

[PurpleTeardrops2]

YES to everything. It is a woman's body, ergo it's her ultimate decision at the end of the day. Abortion should remain legal nationwide.

Laws honestly don't do shit. If a woman wants an abortion, she'll get one whether or not it's legal.

[John_Doesnt]

Good take. I understand that making abortion illegal wouldn't stop abortion, just make it more dangerous.

[RedVulcan]

All the important points were hit. All I gotta say is which major groups want to ban abortion anyway? The article didn't mention anybody important, I checked.

[NatashaJ]

well it extremists you know those nut jobs that bomb planned parenthood, do strikes etc

[NatashaJ]

But if you look in the comments on the article some of them mention what group is doing it thou.

[RedVulcan]

... tbh I don't really care now. You can't stop lone wolf or zealous idiot group attacks through GaG anyway. They in return can't make abortion illegal by bombing clinics, so what's the point?

[NatashaJ]

That's fine but still a issue that these people are trying so hard to ban abortion when women work so hard for it to be legal.

[RedVulcan]

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity" -Einstein
Also, antivaxxers exist, and are pretty much in the same boat.
Yeah it's an issue, but it takes a lot of effort to fix this one.

[NatashaJ]

Yup XD

[Jackblue]

Here is a thought artificial wombs as an alternative to abortion. Research into such things is currently banned I say it should be legal.

[Thisperson98]

I stop reading at "if you don't agree with me you are wrong" section. That right their tells me you don't understand the other side.

[Donniej]

Would you be pro choice if it comes down to murder

[NatashaJ]

I still will not all murder their children with coat hangers, a lot of them follow the rules that the law placed.

[NatashaJ]

all mothers*

[Donniej]

Okay how about a father's right to opt out of child support do you support that?

[NatashaJ]

Yeah? what does that have to do with abortion?

[Donniej]

No I just want see if your consistent in opinions. So is the answer to my question a yes or a no?

[Donniej]

*want to see

[NatashaJ]

I answer it in my last response look again.

[Donniej]

Oh sorry ! But if you can support that then I can support your right to choose , it's probably not what's good for society in the long run but we can argue about that later. And I respect the fact that you support men's reproductive rights which I can't say is true for A lot people who claim to be "Pro-Choice".

[NatashaJ]

well its true kids are way better off with their father in the picture but if someone wants their kid we can't say shit. But I'm the type of woman who would abort a baby if I think the guy is going to be a piece of shit to my baby. I don't see a point of letting a douche like that be a father. But that's me. But abortion is good for society less women are dying by illegal abortions beside more and more people are using birth control so people are not being stupid about getting pregnant if they get pregnant and they realize they don't want the baby abortion is an option. Nothing wrong with that. There too many kids who are not adopted, abused, raped etc that don't have loving homes so I rather have someone abort the baby then make the child's life difficult in the future.

[Donniej]

Well like I said you can have your own opinion and I know , no matter how many facts I throw your way you are not going to change your mind ( I 've realized this about a lot of open minded liberals).
The fact of the matter remain that whether you kill a "fetus" or a "person" you are taking the fate of a human life in your hands and science can back me up on that.
I particularly don't have a problem with women aborting their babies or a man killing another , because I know that they will have to suffer the consequences of their actions whether by law, society , God or karma to me it doesn't matter who deals out those consequences.
And as for you saying that " There too many kids who are not adopted, abused, raped etc that don't have loving homes" yes they do happen this world is not all rainbows and kittens , but just because people suffer or will suffer we cannot decided there fate that right is reserved to the individuals own self
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[Donniej]

How many homeless people , disabled people , rape victims , mentally ill or people in comas do you think is out there , countless and just cause there suffering that doesn't give us the right to end there lives. suffering has existed since the dawn of mankind and it will continue to exist as long as mankind exists.
THERE IS NO PLEASURE WITHOUT PAIN
THERE IS NO GOOD WITHOUT THE BAD
The only thing we can do is live in a way that minimizes PAIN and help others to live in the same way that is why laws and society exist.
The reason why I'm pro life is not simple because I want to save a "fetus" but rather to ensure that your form of thinking doesn't spread, why? because when you say it's ok to end human life based on it's stage of development or other similar issues rather than their actions or the absolute need your opening the Pandoras box.
You are essentially devaluing human life.
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[Donniej]

How do expect someone else or society to value and protect your life when you yourself say that human life has no value.
It is some what selfish don't you think
And again I have no problem with a women having an abortion because her life is at risk or she was raped in extreme situations we me exceptions but exceptions shouldn't be the rule.
I also know that you are Pro-choice not Pro-abortion
And I also know that a lot women won't have abortions , the same way I know if murder was legal not all of the people would be killing each other but enough would , that it would have a lot of negative consequences to humanity.
So at the end of the it's not about life of the fetus , it's not about women's issues it's about the message that we as people send about what humanity is and what we do.

[NatashaJ]

Nope, not true I know a lot of women wouldn't just get an abortion they put a lot of thought into it by the end of the day it doesn't matter how you die your dead. If you don't like abortion fine then have your babies but other people rather not be parents. Also murder is not the same as abortion since the baby is not even human yet at that point, the fetus is just a bunch of cells.

[NatashaJ]

Dude, if you believe in what your saying so much about pro life then you people would be going out there adopting babies, providing better birth control to those in need and etc but instead you rather argue with pro choice and jump on "I'm right your wrong what is wrong with you" train quite frankly I don't care about you pro choicers at all since you people think you have the right to voice your opinion when no one asked. Plus its not your life its the mother life, I rather have a women abort then be a crappy parent. So thanks.

[Donniej]

"Nope, not true I know a lot of women wouldn't just get an abortion"
Yes I do believe you , I myself said
"I also know that a lot women won't have abortions , the same way I know if murder was legal not all of the people would be killing each other "

"Also murder is not the same as abortion since the baby is not even human yet "
It is human it's just that it's at a different stage of development.

"the fetus is just a bunch of cells."
And you are not!

"Dude, if you believe in what your saying so much about pro life then you people would be going out there adopting babies, providing better birth control to those in need "
I agree! there are a lot people who require help , and we should help them.

I'm not saying "I'm right your wrong what is wrong with you" but I'm saying that while you have some good ideas about the problems that people's in society face your approach to solving those problems are misguide

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[Donniej]

Remember "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

And yes I do have the right to raise my opinion , but I'm not "raising my opinion"
I'm stating facts you are the one with the opinion.

"Plus its not your life its the mother life, I rather have a women abort then be a crappy parent."
Again someone else can use this same logic to kill another disadvantaged in life.

Look I don't have a problem with a women having an abortion if it's for medical reasons or she was raped. Just don't try to justify having an abortion by saying "it's not wrong because it's not human" cause you are inconvenienced

And if some doesn't want to get pregnant or doesn't want to get someone pregnant don't have sex or get they should get their tubes tied.

[NatashaJ]

It never lived life so it doesn't really matter if it stays alive or dies. Seriously we all die anyway if a baby dies by abortion then it's not bad especially SINCE a lot of people don't want those babies. Also you can't force people not to have sex or get their tubes tied. Using birth control can prevent pregnancies so why would they do that?

[NatashaJ]

You trying to act reasonable but your not since you think people should get their tubes tie and not have sex even thou birth control was designed to prevent pregnancies.

[Donniej]

I'm not even Christian but JESUS CHRIST !
Look I can't keep repeating myself , if you can't see the big picture then that's you not me, for the last time I will say this is not just about a babies life (see above comments).
"It never lived life so it doesn't really matter if it stays alive or dies. Seriously we all die anyway if a baby dies by abortion then it's not bad especially SINCE a lot of people don't want those babies"
Yes we do die but how would you feel if someone killed you or someone you love would you let it go?
If you are not then not only have you failed at your argument with me but you have also shown your hypocrisy.
And yes I think women who have abortion or men who abandon their children should should get their tubes tied because if you can't be responsible about sex how can you be responsible for another human.

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[Donniej]

Oh and according to your argument about how kids suffer and what not , if people get their tubes tied it won't be a problem. And they also won't ever have an abortion again, so I think it's a win win situation , wouldn't you agree.

[NatashaJ]

if I was killed from a abortion I wouldn't have any opinion on it I'M DEAD. Fetus doesn't know anything so it wouldn't matter to it if it died. I never said you were Christian I said you were pro life. Not Christian. Also you can't forced people to do what you want just like if I don't want a baby I abort it and Id give a flying shit about you pro lifers if you pay me children support then your opinion matters til then stay out of my vagina and any other women vagina.

[Donniej]

*wouldn't you agree?

"stay out of my vagina and any other women vagina"
Oh! Don't worry sweetheart I intend to , cause I don't stick it in crazy!
I just hope people see the hypocrisy of people like you.
You are a textbook example of a person who wants to have your cake and eat it too.
By the way you went from abortion should be legal to I'm going to kill my baby , uhh! Triggered much?

[NatashaJ]

I love how I'm crazy but you are so concern what I do with my baby? guess what if I don't want to be a mother I DON'T WANT TO. You people who are trying to take away birth control and abortions are the worst and yes that is happening in America a group is trying to do that. That's fuck up and somehow having logic now an days is frown upon. Also I never cared for your opinion about me I do what I want to do. and you shouldn't make laws K?

[Donniej]

What logic do you have?
You don't have "logic" you are someone who claims to have it , which is something anybody can do!
Plus I never said people shouldn't be able to get birth control, in fact I want birth control to be cheaper and easier to get.
And if you "don't want to be a mother" don't have sex it's that simply !! , it's not like you'll die if you don't have it.
I think it's safe to say you are one open minded person ( sarcasm)

[NatashaJ]

Here the thing I'm not going to listen to some dude on the internet if I want to fuck I will. Deal with it. I am actually open minded not when it when morons who are stepping into over people lives for no reason are talking. There too many of you out there when you people need to seriously shut up.

[Donniej]

Sorry sweetheart we are not going to "shut up "
Freedom of speech remember !
And i don't care if you Fuck or not , I don't care if you jump off a bridge.
What I do care about is entitled brats who think they know everything and can do what ever they want without consequences to their actions, and tell all of society to turn a blind eye to it.

I knew and said from the very beginning that you weren't going to change your mind (see the 10th comment).
So my intentions were not to change your mind but rather to show everyone else the error of your ways.
So that way you society can understand what is best.
Nazis were able cause many atrocities because no one challenged their views.(I'm not calling you a nazis )
Have you ever heard of the phrase" Evil prevails when good men fail to act"

Also anyone who reads this thread knows who's open minded and who's not.

Peace!✌️

[NatashaJ]

Oh so now I'm a brat but your not? If I remember correct you went on this mytake on purpose to disrespect me and piss me off then I'm brat? because what I don't agree with your stupid ass? but somehow I have to listen to you and agree while you can't do that same? this is why I don't like pro lifers and I never will. You people have your heads up your asses too much to be realistic. Again why don't you mind your own lives and stay out of others. No what you were doing was to be a dick on purpose just like the other twats that are "pro life" on here. There a reason why so many pro choicers won't take you people seriously. IF anything you pro lifers are the nazis. If I remember correctly abortion was illegal and many women died from that but you people didn't care. You care more about a dead fetus even thou the fetus was aborted illegally and also the woman died as well. But you pick and choose whose life matters. Why the fuck should I be open minded to you morons?

[Donniej]

OMG!
I didn't disrespect you and you are the one who's acting all pissy
And to be honest I do respect you to some degree because you did agree with me on the child support issue , but don't say that I didn't agree with you , in fact I agreed with you on birth control and abortion due to medical reasons, rape and or incest or did you forget?
I did not call you a nazi I specifically said "I'm not calling you a maxi"
No we don't pick and choose we value all human life
Based on their actions, rather than their biological state.
And I am not telling you to be open minded towards me or anyone else for that matter , I want you to be open minded to facts.
And I highly doubt I'll be able to respond to you if I had my head my ass😂 😂

[Donniej]

Ps I really like your persistence
Kudos!

[NatashaJ]

Telling me I don't have logic is not rude? hm K then thank god I will never will have a child with you just saying.

[Donniej]

Wtf!
I don't want to have kIds with you or with anyone else for that matter , cause I think there's too many people on this planet. Plus I'm thinking about getting my tubes tied and you know what as long as you are with me on the child support issue I'm with you on the abortion issue.
Also I've really enjoyed arguing with you. And again love your persistence.

[Anonymous]

I don't think abortions should be banned