Why do white people hate black people?

[The_Empty]

What is with their hatred of us? Hatred may be a strong word, but, if say about 90-99% of them have a prejudice or preconceived notion about us. It's as if we are the monsters of society, they hate and fear us, and I don't see what we've done to deserve it, they antagonized our people, how dare they treat us like we're in the wrong? I find it rather amusing, that all comedies, "Vines" as they're called are at the expense of blacks, how a black person is judged harsher than anyone else. I wouldn't care until today, when I was walking down the street so warped in self-hatred that I was on the verge of years for the fact that I couldn't hide my own face. This society in which being a black male is a bad thing, and ugly thing, created a near suicidal self-hatred in me, in fact, I was considering walking into traffic so people would stop judging me. This comes in other forms too, my self-hatred over my looks came from being unable to get a date, mostly because I don't fit what is conventionally considered to be attractive (white) and, unluckily for me, every female I know happened to be white. I'm generally known as a funny, nice, optimistic person, but, I always have to live with the knowledge that with just one awful word, I can be reduced and totally dehumanized, reminded that no matter what I do, I will always be seen as the other, the outsider. I'm expected to be ignorant and dangerous, while I'm neither, and am looked down upon for that. I don't even understand why, in fact, I make it a point to everyday to give money to the homeless (I can say that here where I'm still anonymous), in fact, I've given homeless people my lunch if I had none. But, that doesn't matter, does it, no matter how good I try to be, I'm still the black man, the other, the outsider even in his country of birth, always feared, and always hated, having to prove himself more than anyone else. So, I wanted to ask, why are whites (and other races) so prejudiced against us?

[wölfin-fräulein]

"Why Do White People Hate Black People?"

actually white people or Semitics never hated black people. even when they took them as slaves. the feeling was not hate but looking down upon and dehumanization. that is fairly different than hatred.

and again by this definition Semitics took black people as slaves long before Nordics encountered them, so what is this emphasise on white people?

it seems to me that you are generalising your personal failures to the society. I have seen one of your other posts about white girls in your school not being attracted to you and generalising preference into discrimination, which is meaningless in the most private matter of dating and relationships. you can only care about those who prefer you not the ones who do not. whether there wants to be a white woman around you who prefers you or not, whether the girl is Asian, black, Semitic or white, you can only care about her if she prefers you. as she can only care about you if you prefer her. a fairly personal choice which does not belong to society to interrupt in it.

so make it clear in and wipe it from your mind that the society is discriminating you because of your personal failures in forming a relationship with a woman, whites mostly. that is the main cause for your generalisations about white people.

about your self esteem and self-hatred issue it has the same root in your failure not dehumanization from the society.

what you have to learn is to take responsibility of your failures and successes. it seems that you only want to have a victim so you can cease to take responsibility.

in the whole your note was a victimization of yourself, exaggeration and falsifying the cause of a situation and generalization.

every bit of the thoughts is induced to you by yourself. not the society. fix yourself. do not want the society to bow to you to fulfil every bit of your wishes.

[Iron_Lions]

It seems to me that you're saying pure bullshit. I'd recommend studying a little more on history. I'd suggest for you to read slave narratives.

[wölfin-fräulein]

@Iron_Lions because I said Semitics have taken black people to slavery and you are a full blooded Arab. forgot about the poor Bilal so soon?

[wölfin-fräulein]

and I have no time for BS. if you have nonsenses express them somewhere else.

[wölfin-fräulein]

about hate.

Hate is always a defensive point of stance and feeling.

whites also were told white demons in some black cultures and by some native Americans. and that actually was triggered with more hate than whites calling blacks demons. as the blacks called white people demons and Devils because of their power and their oppressing hands that made 'them' to hate white people.

whites or Semitics didn't have a reason to actually hate blacks as in the definition, as they always had the upper hand. they used them. but the discrimination and calling them demons was more because of a feeling of superiority than a defensive feeling against a powerful enemy.

It was a dislike and dehumanization seeing the differences in the ways of living and comparing as they had the habit. whether towards blacks, American natives etc. not hate.

[wölfin-fräulein]

and also, the dehumanization is a far worse feeling to have for one than hatred.

[wölfin-fräulein]

and note: I do not say there is no discrimination in America yet. there may be in some points in stereotypes and standards of living. but the answer was to the individual not the black people as a whole. this is an answer solely to the individual.

relating this question to a social issue is only ignorant. a social issue is discussed through accurate statistics, not a generalization.

and note again, I didn't say the feeling was not hatred to justify the act. but I said it is looking down upon and a cultural and racial dehumanization following a prejudice which is a worse feeling.

[The_Empty]

Don't you see? Me liking white girls, the girl I love right now, all society induced self-hatred.

[wölfin-fräulein]

you liking a white girl and she does not prefer you while you are her friend. and what does it have to do with discrimination in the society?

there are poorer families of minority group along with black people in America who are under the effect of indirect discrimination because of their social class and the place they are pushed to be in through time. that is another topic.

some times ago you posted I hate every white girl because they consider me 'just their friends'. and related that to discrimination. how are you being treated in the school? do they call you names? do they discriminate you and stop you from reaching the places you want in education? do they look down on you, as an individual? you said white girls will not get along with a black boy unless he is a 'piece of shit athletes that will amount to nothing in life'. there are black men who get along with white girls. and you are even judging and insulting a group within your own race.

[wölfin-fräulein]

relationships is not about race. you can have relationship with anyone and anyone can reject you, whether white or black or Asian. I assume if a black girl you liked rejected you, you would even insult black women, as you did with black men.

you’re expanding your simplest failure which is a private matter and is bound to many different personal factors to the discrimination of a minority which is a serious issue than you liking white women and they consider you a friend.

and I said, talking about social issues is through accurate statistics. not generalisations.

[Samantha8101]

Bitch, you really sound ignorant!!!

[Amythyst1]

So, In other words, you're suggesting that the reason ALL black people are treated unfairly is because of the black people themselves? YOU need to get a real clue.

[CommieDearest]

I'll get some hate for this but whatever: You know other than the 90-99% thing (I think that's a bit exaggerated) I don't think people realize how true this is until they look at sociology. The thing that people don't realize is that the higher crime stats and what not associated with being black having nothing to do with being black at all, instead it has to do with being poor. Why do black people have a higher chance of living in poverty?

Cyclical oppression. We have an education system in this country that ensures the lower class gets a shitty education while the upper class gets the best. This respectively is associated with preparedness for college, which in this time, is important to having a lucrative career. This system makes no sense, because the kids who have parents who can't afford anything don't get shit at school (art programs, tutoring, new books, qualified teachers, etc.) While the parents who could actually afford to supplement a bit of their child's education if they wanted to could. Legislatively politicians do a lot of things to keep minorities in poverty (projects anyone?)

These preconceived notions have to do with stereotyping black men as being dangerous/criminals/thugs or whatever. We associate poverty with minority races AND associate it with crime.

That is why many white people fear black people, to actually answer your question.

I want to state for the record that I do a pretty good job of breaking away from believing these stereotypes, but you wanted to know WHY it seems that white people hate black people and that is literally why.

[VulcanHades]

When you start a sentence with "I'll get some hate for this" usually you have to follow it up with a hateful and ignorant comment. Not something smart, thoughtful and logical. But I forgive you. :)

[CommieDearest]

@VulcanHades thanks. *waiting for white guilt police*

[zorro8888]

Well that covered a lot of what I learned in my sociology class
You did it again Professor Commie!

[CommieDearest]

@Zorro888 Thank you. My internship at head start has been good for one thing so far and that was answering this question.

Get a STEM major people (jk)

[p0rtis26]

oh my Commie

[FakeName123]

"The thing that people don't realize is that the higher crime stats and what not associated with being black having nothing to do with being black at all, instead it has to do with being poor."

What I still fail to realise is how poverty justifies violent crimes though. I can understand that poor people are more likely to rob, mug, steal - but to me this doesn't explain why American blacks have a way higher rate of violent crimes.

[The_Empty]

@FakeName123 Because they have some of the highest rates of poverty. God, are you even capable of reading comprehension? The point wasn't that poverty justifies crime, it explains it, and, many blacks are in poverty, middle class - upper class blacks tend to commit crime on the same rate as everyone else, the point being that crime has nothing to do with being black, but being poor. And, it's funny, considering whites are responsible for most crimes.

[Anonymous]

I don't know ANY white people personally who hate black people. I see that shit on tv but that is all.
In most cases (minus the hillbilly bumpkin parts of the US) black hate is more a perception and not an actual thing. If you don't get a job, or someone doesn't like you... it may just be because you are not good enough for the job, or you are an asshole with a chip on his shoulder.
NO ONE in this day and age "Antagonized" "Your people", Since you are 18-24, you weren't even alive when "your people" were "antagonized". The shit that happened in the past can never be overcome if people like yourself constantly rehash it as if it were still reality.

You choose to turn everything into a race idea because you feel it is the thing that defines you.
The media is always saying "Don't see color" but then the only people I see constantly bringing it up are black people. If you don't want people seeing color, then stop using it as a card for everything bad that happens to you, and stop pointing it out whenever you can. "As a black male, I am blah blah blah"

If you walk down the street and someone spits on you and calls you a N* - that would be black hate.
Anything else you assume is black hate... is often just a mindset you have learned or been taught to believe.

The real question should be why do black people in this day and age assume white people from this same age are responsible for the shit their ancestors did?

[The_Empty]

Another white person blind to reality.

[Opinion Owner]

Give an example of one time when you had a raciest thing happen to YOU, personally.
Note: NOT something YOU believe was raciest or something YOU claimed was raciest, because it was the only reason YOU believed this thing was happening.
Not something you saw on TV or in the anonymity of the internet. Anti-white shit is prevalent on both these mediums as well.

I am curious about any specific instance where you were called the N word to your face as a means of hate or were asked to leave somewhere or were treated differently because you were a lesser person for being "colored".

I can almost guarantee that unless you live in some hillbilly bumpkin part of the US, or are fabricating a situation in your own mind, chances are that you have not DIRECTLY had "racism" used against you.

On the other hand, there are NUMEROUS groups and laws and social constructs that give you ADVANTAGES for being black. Which I don't see you complaining about getting.

You are just as blind.

[The_Empty]

Because, white people conveniently narrow racist down to some guy shouting n*gger at black people on the street! or a lychnis or murder, there's tiny little racist happenings everywhere, however.

[Opinion Owner]

And let me guess, you don't think any of the white raciest shit everywhere is valid racism... Because you "can't oppress the oppressor" right.
You did not answer my question either. The "racism" you feel is "all around you" is fabricated by you and those who think like you, the same way feminist assume they are oppressed by men even when then opposite is true.

[Mickey41]

I’m a black woman I've been one my entire life! I understand that some white people are racist.. that’s why the kkk exist!! I also know we have black racist as well! I know white cops that kill majority black people but I know black cops that kill black people and White people the same as there are white cops that kill white people and other race as well. I myself am tired of black people throwing the race card in this day of age. Whenever a white person do some to a black person we always want to say someone racist. Why a black person can't get hurt because he was an ass hole and he pissed someone off? I’m black. All the people that ever hurt me were black!! Not white. I’ve had unfair stuff happen to me twice by 2 white men out of my entire life but black people. My own people haves wronged me forever. We don’t have much because a lot of us are lazy and looking for hand outs. I work 5 jobs. All are independent. I don’t take anything from anyone. But I see a lot of my other black people who always begging and trying to find easy and quicker ways to make money without actually working hard. Black people would rather rob their own brother and when someone of another race kill them then we want to protest riot and steal more shit and call it looting🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I’m not taking up for my ignorant black people!! That’s what’s wrong with us now. Stop making excuses for ignorance. Back in the day racism , slavery that stuff was out for real but today. A lot of my black sisters and brothers really are ignorant and so are my white sisters and brothers. All nationalities today have ignorant people. A Nigga can be any color and race these days.

[BlackAthlete]

Didn't read your whole rant, but SOME people who just HAPPEN to be "white" hate "black" people. And who cares? Why do you care? Anybody who doesn't like another person who they have never met solely based on their skin color is an idiot. Their idiots. Why do you care about idiots? I can care less about the thinking process of an imbecile. I can care less about their feeble primitive brains that have not evolved to the modern human brain. And Most "white" people I've met in my life have been cool and abundantly polite and caring towards me, But I do live in LA, so we tend to be smarter than say a town in the backwoods of Georgia that has a bunch of inbreeds. But where I live, i've probably on encountered a racist white person once? in 21 years? So yea. And NO being white doesn't = automatically attractive. Dude workout, get healthy, have a good vibe about you, a good demeanor, be funny around people and chicks will come, thats is it. You just want a pity party. I know plenty of black dudes who got good looking women who aren't black. Their white, Japanese, somaon, Cambodian, hispanic, asian, indian, you name it, and some of them aren't that good looking. So dude, grab your balls and get out there foo. Quit bashing yourself in your head. Tell that voice in your head to shut the fuck up. And quit being reeled in by 'evil self-talk'. Get yo ass out there foo. Plenty of pussy out there for a nigga.

[The_Empty]

I live in New ayes, personally. Anyway, I never said being white makes you attractive, I said it makes society THINK you're attractive.

[BlackAthlete]

Have no clue what/where new ayes is, and i googled it. " I said it makes society THINK you're attractive." Really? how so?

[spoonman2014]

As a criminal justice major I can shine some light on this. The imagine of the scary blackman came after slavery was abolished. Sadly in America the government and both political parties have found ways to keep minorities oppressed. The right by pushing this "if you don't act, think, dress a certain way it is bad" just like how the Europeans pushed for colonialism through out the world tried to convert different cultures to their life style and make them christians.

The left by treating minorities like they are primitive and can't think for themselves. Also you can blame the news, the news knows what will get them views, they know no one probably care about a white terrorist blowing themselves up but they know people will tune into middle eastern one. They know that a black school shooter sounds made up but a mentally ill white one will keep people watching them. They know an Asian robbing a 7/11 won't make waves but a black man doing it will.
If it were up to me I think all high schools should teach like an intro to criminal justice course so people can see the truth about crime in america, theft is the most common crime and about 70% of crimes are done by white people

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGt_JGHYEO4

This maybe why, also
www.worldstarhiphop.com/.../video.php

You see some black people are so ignorant, arrogant, loud and obnoxious that all the normal black people, like you get generalized with them. Also black people use derogatory terms to refer to themselves. ie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSrTnWDTdwI

I have nothing against black people myself, i have something against ignorance, and the way media uses black people as a way to spread ignorance. Also our president is black but that really has fueled more racial tensions in my opinion, because for every mistake Obama makes, there is some IGNORANT white person who calls him by a derogatory name! Stop ignorance and then there will be no more prejudice, that goes for whites and blacks.

[The_Empty]

You use rap videos to justify racial bias, that is fallacy, in my eyes.

[Opinion Owner]

It is fallacy, i know most black people aren't like these rappers, its when this culture is promoted and reflected in certain black people that these prejudices are reinforced and placed on all black people, most of the time unjustly.

[Opinion Owner]

I grew up near the projects in a prominently black neighborhood, I am Mexican i got jumped several times by black people growing up because of my accent, and the fact that i was Mexican. Black people stole my things and robbed me several times. for my money after work and my bike. So you think all white people hate black people well to me it felt as though all black people hated Mexicans and my other Hispanic friends. I moved but kept a lot of those prejudices with me, i am still letting them go, but it's hard when you get tormented by a specific group of people everyday. I hope that one day that race and ethnicity isn't an issue but the harsh reality is that it is.

[The_Empty]

Funny thing is, I am tormented by a specific group of people almost every day, NEWSFLASH, they're all white.

[Opinion Owner]

NEWSFLASH racial discrimination is perpetrated by white people, Mexican, people and black people. It's not an issue of race its an issue of ignorance! That's been past down for generations,

[T-shirtsandkneehighs]

Wow some of you are really fucking ignorant. I mean seriously, you're sick of hearing about this shit? Think of how sick we must be of experiencing it. You may not realise your own predjudice because you were conditioned to think that way since birth, but why would black people still complain about this unless it was true? More crimes are committed by black people because more crimes are committed by those in poverty. Society works by promoting the white image.

Oh and when you say "I don't see colour" that's just a fucking insult. That either means you're blind or there's something wrong with our colour so you pretend to not notice it

[The_Empty]

Exactly, as sick as they are of hearing they're not perfect, maybe we're sick of living in a society that works against and has always worked against us. Honestly, black people were fucked from the start, and by the start, I mean humans leaving Africa.

[T-shirtsandkneehighs]

It's crazy how blind people are to it

[p0rtis26]

Hmm, I will respectfully disagree and to your point about color of course I see color.

[T-shirtsandkneehighs]

@p0rtis26 what do you disagree on?

[p0rtis26]

I disagree with a victim mentality.

[The_Empty]

Except we are victims, fuck, I'm sick of white people, they refuse to ever see things from our point of view and then blame things on us for being upset. We really wish we could just pretend there's nothing wrong in the world, with some societal privilege to allow such a stupid, naive view to thrive, but we cannot.

[T-shirtsandkneehighs]

@p0rtis26 what do you mean?

[p0rtis26]

A victim mentality will not benefit blacks, whites, or any race for that matter.

[T-shirtsandkneehighs]

@p0rtis26 but racism will?

[p0rtis26]

I understand racism will not be beneficial either. Here is my issue, we can go back and forth with talking points about what factors influence our lives or culture. Commie brought up a valid point about cyclical oppression. In my opinion there are valid points on both sides of the argument. But to me the heart of the issue is the victim mentality. Every person in all walks of life deals with oppression, some more than others. Life isn't fair and never will be. So my question is does being a victim and having a poor me attitude solve anything? Does complaining ever solve solutions? So instead why not make a difference, why not take self responsibility make the decision to improve yours and others lives? Instead of blaming others for your troubles why not take that approach? That is my stance on this matter.

[T-shirtsandkneehighs]

@p0rtis26 black people can't solve racism themselves

[Truthtelleropen]

Listen to me and hear I speak not to your flesh but your soul. We have been dealing with racism in United States for over 400 + years. Yet we have no resolve. Why? First we must tell the truth of history! Why do I say this? I here racist say go back to Africa... But if they knew that Columbus sailed with a black navigator they would see things different. If you new a anthropologist in 1893 said to ignore the evidence black peoples populated the americas long before europeans sailed here. What they taught you in a history lesson that the Dutch said the streets of California were filled with irrigation systems, markets and the people there had deodorant breath freshener and they looked like Africans. If told that mansa musa was the richest man in the world even by today standards he would still be richer than the Amazon guy. If I told you his brother sailed here in 1329 to see what his relatives were doing in the land across the sea. If I asked you to tell me why slaves sang in Hebrew? If you think I am Afrocentric and your in doubt I want you to ask yourself why? As you dismiss me look up Vivian Thomas, Daniel hale Williams , Garrett Morgan, Benjamin Banneker. Then ask yourself why don’t I know who they are. Daniel was the pioneer of heart surgery. I’ll tell you why you don’t know them!! If they told you the so called “ black peoples “ were smart it would contradict the myth that has been perpetrated for over 500 years for the purpose of power

[Amernoc]

Well first things first you have to remember that racism is an irrational feeling against someone based on their skin/place of birth. Everyone is prejudice in some way or another, in the most basic terms you dislike a group of people for a very specific aspect of them, in this instance skin colour.
A big reason racism is still so prolific is because it is discussed so much. I've moved around a lot and have experience racism myself, for either being from a foreign country, to going to a predominantly Black/Asian school. Everyone to some extent has experience racism.
You may not even realize that this post is in fact racist in itself. I don't know where you live, I am very surprised that you feel so strongly about discrimination to the point where you think "90-99%" of white people are "prejudiced" against you. If that really is the case then I feel embarrassed for their ignorance. Going back to my original point though, racism is an irrational feeling often based on stereotyping, a person can hear or experience something negative once or just learn the behavior from watching others and build an irrational presence of mind towards it.

[DodgersGM]

I can't speak for other white people, or for any other person for that matter. All I can tell you is that I don't hate black people at all, and there are plenty of other people that judge people based on actions rather than meaningless traits such as skin complexion. Those other people, they're just not worth our time, man.

I do think you hit the nail on the head, though. You said that some people will fear you because you are different than them, and that is at the heart of racism and discriminatory hatred. All anger and hate is born from sadness and fear.

Some people (such as the lovely wolfin girl below) will try and claim that you can enslave another human without hating them, and of course that line of thinking is just pure idiocy. As @Iron_Lions pointed out, all it takes is a brief view into the lives of slaves to understand the hatred that they were treated with.

[The_Empty]

Finally, someone gets it.

[kelly173815]

90-99% of white people are prejudiced against blacks? dude where do you live, cause that is totally not what people believe where I am. The only pre-conceived notion I'm aware about for black people, is that they are hilarious... and this has been pretty much true from all the ones I've met

[Pink2000]

Try living in the south :(

[cipher42]

Well, everyone is prejudiced against some outside group or another at least a little bit. It's just that with the majority of people, those prejudices aren't terribly large, and so don't manifest in significant ways.

[Thegoodgirl88]

That's not really true not all white people hate us, I've dated a lot of white guys and have
a lot of white friends and family members, and all the white people I know don't really care
about your race

I've never gotten dirty looks from people just by walking down the street
I've never been called unattractive because I'm black
and I live in a place with there isn't a lot of black people

[shahab00x]

Well, you're a hot chick. That's different.

[Pink2000]

Well that's just it white men love them some black women that's goes far back to the slavery days. @Thegoodgirl88

[Tylerjohn010]

I'm mixed with both black and white (my Dad is black and my Mom is White), so yeah, not all white people are the same. I do agree that a majority of whites may think they are better then black people because of the history that took place. Where I live now, a LOT of black people fall into their stereotypes cause they think they have too or they don't belong anywhere else, which I think is stupid. You wouldn't believe the stares I get when I call my mom "Mom" in a public place. I wish I could say racism isn't around anymore, but it definitely still is.

[shahab00x]

I don't know if you consider me white. But I don't think that's true. I mean, it's partly true, when I'm walking down the street at night and there are a bunch of young black dudes, I try to keep my distance. I would do the same if I saw some shady looking white people, or chinese people, or hispanics.
I've seen black guys with white girls around where I live. I have black neighbors, I invited them over for a party once, they were nice people. I like the black people I've met in real life. I don't think they're any different. I don't think anybody's racist, at least where I live.
Even if you think people are racist, why do you care, you have all the same rights as everyone else. You can hold your grounds easily against racist people.
Don't blame all of your problems to being black. Everyone has problems, instead of focusing on the negative, focus your energy on ways to improve your life. I'm sure you know black guys who have no problem with dating.

[Anonymous]

100% of people have preconceived notions of how others are. This is from media, parents, school and living. I have been in all regions of North America and I would say that 30 to 40% of Asians are racist against blacks for some good reasons and not so good and 25 to 30% of white people are racist against blacks and even some of them have good reason. My mother lived in the Bronx and was abused daily for being white but she was too angry to realize the sociological reasons. Most educated people of all color do realize that even with our prejudices (we ALL have them) it is silly to judge anyone from their ethnicity and color of skin. You personally seem to have some awful self esteem issues. You can learn to live life without all this self hate but you need to find out who you really are instead of feeling sorry for yourself. Good luck.

[The_Empty]

I go to a mostly white school and am a laughing stock and barely have any friends, even though I try to treat everyone with kindness and respect, this, coupled with the history of our people should then justify a deep hatred for all of you, right? I bet you'd disagree with me there.

[Opinion Owner]

It doesn't matter what I agree with the issue is mostly a personal issue about your self worth.

[CuriousCatbug]

People like you are why racism actually exists.
you make bullshit generalized comments that have 0 factual input and claim to know what other races think about ya.

here is the answer...

you ready?

see my pic? im white

well...

WE THINK YA HUMAN JUST LIKE THE REST OF US!

[The_Empty]

My experiences with them, as well as 17 whole years to learn how they think and act, has me begging to differ.

[CuriousCatbug]

How they think and act?
we ain't animals to be studied and interpreted...

perhaps its your own racism ya need to get in line buddy

[The_Empty]

Thats where you're wrong. Humans are animals, and, like animals have a set pattern of behaviors. It's not too hard to see the pattern of human behaviors. The uniqueness in humans is that, they have different patterns, though, knowing whatever group they align themselves with makes it easier to figure out their upbringing, thus they're behavior. See, in our society, we are all taught from birth subconsciously to believe that white is right, white and white people are good, and black and black people are bad. The effect is stronger depending on household, often white households preach the former, while black households do a poor job of trying to fight what society has taught them to believe as well.

[CuriousCatbug]

All makes sense now

[CuriousCatbug]

You're just a racist... looking for an excuse to be racist and play victim... gotcha ;)

[The_Empty]

How am I racist, exactly? Because I've chosen to criticize a biased unequal society, a society that runs a facade of equality by ignoring its negative aspects?

[CuriousCatbug]

Racist by claiming you have even the faintest idea of what another race does or thinks.
you sit and claim white people hate black people.
victimizing yourself for no reason at all.

society is as equal as you make it.

[The_Empty]

No it isn't, but, sigh, couldn't expect a Caucasian to understand my view, now could I? Don't you get it, whites hold majority of the power in the world, in my world, western society, that much is a fact. I was born with a disadvantage, my friend, that is also a fact. And, have you forgotten what the internet is? It's my favorite version of what you are in the dark, and, based on what I've see online, what white people truly are in the dark often conforms with everything I've said.

[CuriousCatbug]

Couldn't expect a Caucasian to see ya point? Lol!!!
try seeing mine then
you ain't born with a disadvantage at all, the president of the US is black, and us evil whiteys are holding you back? Hahahaha
stop trying to pin your failings on an ignorant racial belief that you are disadvantaged in the slightest

[The_Empty]

Don't give me the spiel about the president, studies indicate that racial tensions in he US have intensified with Obama in office. Ever wonder how a rather average president gets branded the worst and is compared to Hitler?

[CuriousCatbug]

Then dont give me the spiel that you are at a disadvantage lol
you mean like bush was? and he was white ^_^
so your horseshit reasoning is null and void

also, reading ya main question again
those "vines"
have another look :3
just as many are "white people be like.."

you need to grow up and stop this self pity bullshit, gets you nowhere... but hey... that's probs white peoples fault too right?

[The_Empty]

Ready for the difference? The hatred for Bush didn't come until his second term, Obama's hatred was there since day one. And, part of my self-hate is caused by the way society is, forcing insecurities upon me.

[CuriousCatbug]

Society forces 0 self hate on you. You search out to find it because in your mind, validates ya shit claims.
example; 80% of professional basketball players are black ;_; that means society hates white people and is cutting my chances of getting in!!!

know why people dont do that?
because we adults and know we are human... not white or black or Asian... human.
we all have the same chance in this life
you need to wake up and see it
rather than waste time and alienate yourself with this crap

[Mgoods]

Come on dude, I'm not reading all of that- but you're a smart little cookie and you definitely are aware of the reasonings behind this. I don't know what purpose this question served... Mind you, it exposed a fair bit of ignorance. But, that's nothing new.

[Phoenix98]

Well were I am from white people eat, play and work together with black people of course there is the occasional fight but that's life. Some places the black community is good and other places the black community is well not that great that is just life get over it people hate other people, races and ethnicity its nothing new under the sun. Its been going on for thousands of years and it will be going on for thousands more.

[The_Empty]

I refuse to just ignore the issues of society, I am not like you, white people can pretend everything is perfect, because they never have to deal with being a minority...

[Phoenix98]

I'm not ignoring anything black people are about 40/50 population wise around here with whites yet both races are perfectly happy. I must watch about twenty or more blacks and whites interact together every single day and you know what they laugh and have fun every single day I train with two of em every day. Sure the occasional fight breaks out but everyone gets over it the only one with the problem is with you.

[HonestWhiteGuy]

Pure b. s. look at the Black on White crime rates and you tell me why Blacks hate Whites. Tired of this logic where you think Blacks somehow are immune from being racist, and also quit making up statistics, just makes your argument look even more clueless.

[The_Empty]

So, you think saying blacks hate whites back justifies it? I find it amusing, however, blacks hate whites for what ah whites did to them, and whites hate blacks for what they did to black people.

[QueenofSilentFoxes]

Why Can't I Stop Generalising Shit? This Question Has Been Asked A Million Times. Why Can't I Learn To Understand That?

Not sure. I would recommend getting a therapist though.

[Anonymous]

What the hell are you ranting about? This is 2014. We have a black president. Some of the biggest superstars are black. We have an entire black legion of soldiers. The Vine comment was pure falsehood. Quit bitching about something that is hardly an issue anymore. The fact is, blacks have a solid root in American society now. Quit wallowing in self-pity.

[Pink2000]

Are you serious you must be white cause you have the nerve to say that. You must not know what it's like to get dirty looks or even get talked about right in front of you just because you're black.

[cipher42]

Have you been paying attention to current events at all? Ferguson ring a bell?

[The_Empty]

I see someone is very ignorant, is it willfully so?

[JoeE21]

GTFO with that bs of yours. Grow up and stop blaming white people for your problems. You don't hate someone for the color of their skin. You dislike them because the way they act etc.

[The_Empty]

Except I've never done anything to anybody, now have I? Haha, you people are quite hysterical, so quick to criticize others, yet unable to handle criticism yourselves, eh? The second you're not perfect, not your god's gift to mankind, there's a problem.

[JoeE21]

Saying shit like that is why I don't like you. It's not because you're black. I serve with guys and women of all color. I do not care what color they are. I care about how they act and present themselves. If you're an asshole, I won't like you

[JoeE21]

Quit being a dick

[The_Empty]

How in my original question was I a dick? Was it wrong for me to ask y my people are looked down on, why society treats us as strangers in our own countries to the point that some people (people like me) get so warped they make an effort to hide their own face, purely out of shame and self-disgust? As I said, I do many things that would make most consider me to be, at the very least, a kind person, but, because I am black, it doesn't make much of a difference. Wanna know how it feels to be black? A cop stops you as you're driving down a road under the speed limit and writes you up a ticket. If you're white you'd likely be surprised, no? If you're black you were practically waiting for shit like that to happen, you're not surprised at all.

[JoeE21]

Don't say things like that because it's a double edged sword. Sure there's a bad apple and he's white. However, when you see a black person approaching you at midnight on a street and you think you'll get robbed... and he robs you blah blah blah it's the same thing. Stop trying to point out the few exceptions. You must treat people how you wish to be treated and judge not by the skin, but by ones heart

[The_Empty]

I wish such a thing were true, however, I know in this world, that's not the way it works. Believe me, in reality, I don't really care about white people, I only care that they have majority of the power in the world. Given that they have all the power, I wanted to know what my people did to make it acceptable and encouraged in this world to look down on my people.

[JoeE21]

Works both ways. I wanna know why people, in general, can be so cruel to one another and do horrible acts. Although I serve, I don't ever wish death upon another unless it is only truly necessary

[The_Empty]

Neither do I, even as a child I couldn't stand killing bugs, and even today I hate guns (I hate killing in general). People are cruel to each other because hatred brings people together easier than compassion does, that's sadly how humans are.

[Only_Pinto_Beans]

Because black people are more feeble minded and less intelligent. A black name named Tiger288 just blocked me here because I told him to learn how to spell 'Women'. He spelled it 'Womin'. He said F*** u. Didn't even spell out the word 'you'. A white person almost would never do that. He showed his ignorance. When I private message people, I almost always can tell their race.

[anonomousthoughts]

People are people. Reguardless of skin color. If you give me a reason to dislike you then I won't like you.. it doesn't matter your skin color. I'm white btw. I've actually never had a black friend i've hated.. in fact i've never hated anyone because they are black that's a very closed minded way of thinking. Skin color doesn't determine my acceptance of you what so ever.

[Anonymous]

Maybe because you're bitching about your problems rather than solving them?

[The_Empty]

How do you intend to have me solve them? Wouldn't expect someone with no problems like you to understand, however. The answer would be to reform society, but alas, I cannot.

[Opinion Owner]

Fuck you, anyone can solve their problems--like the one where I was unemployed. You want other people to solve your problems, and THAT is your problem. You have no personal accountability. Stop blaming others and be a man, you weak little shit.

[Anonymous]

When are blacks going to stop giving a FUCK about who hates them? There's plenty of dickfaces out here in this world that will hate us blacks for whatever we do. Fuck them and live your life. Pick yourself up and hold your head.

[shahab00x]

This ^. Doesn't matter what race you are. There will always be people that hate you, you just have to not give a shit and hang around with people who like you for who you are.

[Anonymous]

I am not going to read this. But I don't hate anyone and no one hates me (atleast not for my color :P ).

Though I am not sure if I am balck or white. I am indian and fair but not as fair as americans.

well I guess nobody cares. :)

[Anonymous]

Why do liberals hate non-liberal blacks more than they hate white racists?

[Mr_ZoomZoom]

I'm white, I don't hate black people, in fact I don't hate any ethic group.

[lumos]

I'm so sorry you feel that way. That's all I can say, really.

[Jakesusername]

To be honest... I couldn't care less about your race or gender. I judge based of personality. If your a jerk I don't like you if your an out going person then I respect you highly.

[cuteguy22]

why do black people always have to try to be better then white people? like want they nicer close, cars and jobs. so then they can say" I, m better white trash".

[The_Empty]

Or maybe they just don't want to be fucking poor?

[cuteguy22]

its not a completion!

[cuteguy22]

don't be fool having ice clothes and cars don't make you not be poor it only means your creating expenses you don't need or your in deep debt. don't live beyond you means

[The_Empty]

English isn't your first language, is it?

[Sreemukh]

I don't hate black people, hell I don't hate anyone o_O

[abundantlyrich]

You make it like everyone hates you here... Its best you're more specific about the location?

[p0rtis26]

I did not read your long book, but I do not hate black people.

[LoveLikeNovocaine]

i dunno... why did the chicken cross the road?

[The_Empty]

... Considering that particular anti-joke is likely about death, with the road being the border between life and death, I'm guessing the chicken crossed the road to escape its pain and die?

[LoveLikeNovocaine]

dang bruh.. u are either a super genius or u definitely need counselling. either way... the root of your problem is your mom, you have oedipus complex.

[The_Empty]

Actually, I simply know the history of the joke, and, what did anything I have to say have to do with an Oedipus complex?

[LoveLikeNovocaine]

well fella, only Sigmund Freud knows...

[dev765]

Another one has been lost.

[Metalizer]

Black people are cool.

[Anonymous]

Because they dance better.

[kep79]

what percentage of black people is in jail?

[QueenNikki]

God -thats why :/

[Longblackveil]

What?

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil White people who are racists are racists because of religion, look up the history of the KKK

[Longblackveil]

But I'm not aware of any religious teachings that preach racism of any kind. Can you point to an example? one?

[QueenNikki]

... yeah the preachings of the KKK hahaha Christianity has split into so many branches, they all practice slightly different ideas based around the same book and around the same God, its what it says that matters, its what people make it into.

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil ^

[QueenNikki]

*its not what it says that matter* -damn typos!

[Longblackveil]

I'm sorry that doesn't make sense.

The Kkk is not a religion. There is nowhere in the bible itself does not even mention anyone being black. So how could it teach racism? There are no black people in the bible.

The kkk extrapolated something that wasn't there. So how is that religions fault?

[AnimeDreama]

Not all whites are racist because of religion. Some are just evil.

[QueenNikki]

... this isn't a guess, its a fact, educate yourself.

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil you just said something very interesting: "there are no black people in the Bible". MAYBE THATS WHY THEY DECIDED BLACK PEOPLE aren't PEOPLE.

[AnimeDreama]

@Longblackveil Incorrect. Much of the Old Testament, especially the first few books, took place in Africa and the Sinai peninsula. There were definitely blacks in the Bible, even if they were not mentioned by color or race. Remember, just because something isn't directly mentioned, does not mean that they or it was not there.

[Longblackveil]

But if religions don't teach racism, then how can you blame the religions? Shouldn't you just blame the people?

It makes no sense to say that religion causes racism

[Longblackveil]

@AnimeDreama

Ok I agree with you, that certainly people in the bible were black. But doesn't that just prove my point more? The bible never mentions them as being black, maybe because it didn't matter to the writers of the bible what color their skin was?

I don't know of any religion that teaches racism, maybe I'm missing something. But just because some religious people are racist doesn't mean the religion causes racism. Because religion doesn't even address racism, they must've learned it from somewhere else

[Longblackveil]

"you just said something very interesting: "there are no black people in the Bible". MAYBE THATS WHY THEY DECIDED BLACK PEOPLE aren't PEOPLE."

Well that would surely not make sense, because the bible doesn't mention white people either. Your making stuff up

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil LOL I QUOTED YOU!!! thats not what i said, thats what you said!!! The KKK was founded based around Christianity, ITS A FACT, not debatable! Religion is all about interpretation, its what makes religion dangerous, they're interpretation gave birth to racism,
@AnimeDreama racism is taught, so a racist might not do it for religious reasons but they had an ancestor that did and trickled down the generations with religion getting lost. While others have psychological reasons like a damaging experience involving a black person or the longing to belong to an exclusive group they can treat like a family.

[AnimeDreama]

@Longblackveil Bingo! Somebody gets it. You just proved my point about some people just being evil. Slavery in the Bible was not based upon race as slavery in the west was. Slaves were A: taken as captives in war, B: born into it, C: taken as debt for money or punishment for crime.

Racism was unheard of in the Bible. People hated each other because of invasion, religious views, and land. They did not discriminate based on skin color or ethnicity. Some would argue the opposite with Egypt enslaving the Hebrew people, but again, that was not based on race. The Hebrews had begun to outnumber the Egyptians, and they enslaved them to control their numbers.

In conclusion: Racism was brought in by an outside source, possibly the Persians, who hated anybody that was not a Persian, but it was not because of religion.

[Longblackveil]

"MAYBE THATS WHY THEY DECIDED BLACK PEOPLE aren't PEOPLE."

I did not say that, that was definitely you that said that.

Communism and fascism was founded around atheism. Does that mean that atheism causes those things? Of course not. Those were just the beliefs of the people that did cause those things

Again, you can't interpret the bible in a racist manner, there's no way to do that because, again again, it makes no mention of blacks or whites.

[QueenNikki]

@AnimeDreama ITS A FACT. I DIDN'T MAKE IT UP, YOU'RE THE ONE MAKING IT UP, PICK UP A BOOK AND EDUCATE YOURSELF.

[Longblackveil]

It is a fact that the founders of the kkk were religious.

It is NOT a fact that their religion caused the racism. Your trying to connect dots that aren't there

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil i will tell you you are right if you can show me historic proof from an educated source that the KKK was not founded on the basis of Christianity.

[AnimeDreama]

@QueenNikki Typing in caps isn't going to make you right. Please, elaborate on what I could possibly be making up? Again and again, it is shown throughout history that racism had next to nothing to with religion. Racism was based around an idealist culture made of only the one superior race to all others. For Christ's sake, even Hitler didn't base his racism on religion. He hated the Jews because he blamed them for Germany's downfall. YOU pick up a book.

[QueenNikki]

@AnimeDreama oh my god. You are so stupid. What part of fact do u not understand? Show me from an educated source where it says the KKK was not based on Christianity.

[Longblackveil]

Show me where in the bible, the kkk's beliefs were justified!

[Longblackveil]

The kkk is based entirely on white supremacy.

The bible does not even mention any people being white, much less whites being superior. What other facts do you need?

[AnimeDreama]

@QueenNikki Yes, call the history major an idiot. Listen up girly: Just because the Klan CLAIMED to be based around Christian ideals, DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE. The Klan lynched, hanged, shot, burned, raped, pillaged, tortured and butchered African Americans in the name of hate. Nowhere in Christianity is that deemed acceptable. That is in no way close to what Christianity preaches. The cold hard truth is that the Klan is a hate-based group, NOT Christian-based. Get your facts straight or shut up about things you don't understand.

[AnimeDreama]

I am done with this conversation.

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil it doesn't matter whether its justified, this argument is about whether the KKK used Christianity to justify racism or not, and the answer is they did use it justify it, unless you can find credible historic information that says otherwise.

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil i never said christianity justified racism- you picked and fought a one sided battle.

[Longblackveil]

But how can you use Christianity to justify racism against blacks, if the Christian bible doesn't even mention people being black or white?

That's my final word on this, you obviously have a heavily biased point of view.

You haven't shown me your credible sources either have you?

[QueenNikki]

@AnimeDreama you didn't even know what this conversation was about, with that low ability to underdtand good luck graduating!

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil this is what you don't understand: we aren't debating whether christianity justifies racism, we are debating whether KKK used christianity to justify it- obviously they didn't have a good leg to stand on- but they did make an excuse using christianity, i'm not saying its a good excuse and they were right, i'm just saying thats where there excuse came from-again im not saying christianity is about racism, im saying the KKK decided that it is. Looking up a good source for you right now if u still wanna stick around for it

[Longblackveil]

I'll check it out in the morning if you post it. In about to go to sleep.

I think @animedreama makes a good point. Just because the kkk claims to be founded around christian values, doesn't mean they are.

I believe the kkk wouldve existed without religion.

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil I believe that too, but it i THINK it wouldn't have happend at the pace and scale that it did if they didn't already have a good amount of christians to convince and churches to gather and brain wash kids into becoming racists.

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil i chose CNN as a credible source since its the only source i can recognize amongst a sea of pages! You know how the internet is :/
inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/.../
there you can see how much "christian identity" played a part in the founding and growth of the KKK. It seems that the KKK pulled a Catholic Church and is now very accepting and against violence, THUMBS UP FOR PROGRESS. If you look at of the "offical" KKK website, being Christian is a must, being Christian is part of the KKK pride.

[QueenNikki]

*"official" KKK websitessssssss

[Longblackveil]

I'm very aware of all of that. It still doesn't make your answer right.

God is not the reason for racism in any form or fashion

[QueenNikki]

@Longblackveil okay for the THIRD TIME, its not about whether religion justifies racism, its not about whether christianity justifies racism, that is not what this is about
this is about the KKK, a very religious group, using a religious reason as a way to exonerate themselves from violence they imposed on non-whites in the eyes of God and Jesus Christ, whom they love and wanr to please because because they are very religious. They used christianity as a way to gain follers and brainwash mind.
AGAIN not about whether christianity blantly/obviously/right in your face says racism is good, it NOT about that, its about the KKK using it as a platfrom to build off of, them creating a shitty barely not really supported claim that racism is okay in the eyes of God, which we established people do all the time becuase 'God doesn't control people or has ever claimed to", remember?
DO YOU STILL NOT GET IT?

[QueenNikki]

If racists didn't have an honorable reason like religion to just attack an innocent person over skin colour, the idea wouldn't have spread as easily and as wide as it did.

[QueenNikki]

Okay agree to disagree hahaha

[mexborough]

Read a book dude..