+1 yReading everything you have here, you seem to be focused on negative situations, but when I hear "social cues" I tend to think more about more positive ones... like, someone is interested in a person socially or romantically and that person doesn't get it.
In a lot of the more "positive" social situations, I will understand the social cues and ignore them if I'm not interested. I'm sure sometimes people think I don't get it, lol.
In more negative situations... I've known people who don't get social cues because they don't care. My father and one of my nieces are this way. They are the kind of people whom if you try to tell them they're being annoying or whatever, it will make no difference. They'll keep being annoying, or maybe even get more annoying. It's all about what they want to do and how they want to behave until you really hurt their feelings or piss them off. I can be like this but in a different way, usually, like I don't enjoy getting on people's nerves like they do... but there are some social things I flatout don't care about and will do what I feel like regardless.
As for dealing with men, like there are a lot of men who don't understand women's social cues when they're approaching them or hitting on them, or just teasing... it's just an awkward situation to be in, and I think in the past I have wondered why men don't understand some of the cues or issues you discussed with Roland instead of my having to either spell it out or keep dealing with a man I don't want to deal with.
For me, I think when you say "do it some more," it's like I don't want things to get confrontational or even turn into a security issue because I have to tell a guy to back off. There are men who will curse you out or who will get violent with you, or if you work with them it will turn into long-term drama (actually had this issue with some older men, one in his 60s, at work, so older men aren't exempt)... a guy just needs to be able to understand "okay, let me go away" or "okay, let me stop" or even "okay, I can get away with this type of teasing with Barbara but not with Kelly." But I know it doesn't work like that, guys will keep relying on you to be straightforward with them and not consider legitimate reasons why you don't feel cool with that.
It's not really any of your options, for me--I think it's more 1) some people don't care about social cues, and 2) I just wish some would accept that's the best way to communicate sometimes and get used to/learn some.14 Reply- +1 y
I'm glad you pointed it out that some people simply don't care because for whatever reason they have grown or are wired to be apathetic regarding the feelings of others. I think it's easy to misinterpret things as well when words aren't communicated in a straightforward manner. It's unfair to make people guess what you may mean but common human behaviors which are overlooked are what I consider social cues. I'm taking the defensive tack because we have more than enough questions in here about flirting and not enough about avoiding something that could get us in actual trouble.
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Remember we are in the age of self importance, everyone want to be a celebrity. What used to be bad behavior is now considered "style". Bravado and self promotion are the norm (notice who's in the whitehouse?)
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I've come to believe America likes loud obnoxious people
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@pinkesweet You make an excellent point with that! I don't like loud, obnoxious people myself and I've been an American my whole life. I don't understand the appeal. And I hope our President doesn't anger the wrong people.
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4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I feel like as humans, we are so social, it's so important to be able to navigate social interactions-and so, it seems like people would just know... like they would know when to be goofy or serious and when the 'pack' is turning on them.
And so when they don't, I feel sad for them.
I'm socially awkward at times, but I pick up on things quickly and know when to avoid people who won't gel with me (leave tense situations) or adapt to make things easier (ex. when this super reserved type A girl was one of the only people I could talk to in the summer program, I was less goofy)-but that's only for a while, don't be fake!10 Reply
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+1 yAll depends on the social cue you are referring to. There are many that don't bother me and then there are some that drive me nuts and I don't know how that person has made it this far in life without something bad happening to them.
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That same thing crosses my mind a lot like how can this person have made it without getting punched in the face a bunch of times? There must have been witnesses every single time or the legalization or canbabis in my state may have either calmed everyone down, decreasing the possible violence OR caused the dumb. I can't decide.
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*of cannabis
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Typos typos typos...
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The *DUMB* is not limited to your state. There seems to be a pandemic of dumb across America.
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@pinkesweet I think you're correct:/
That's a very subjective thing. Happens often enough I generally get annoyed and that's about it. I often start to wonder then if they have some socialization issues or if they are pursuing an agenda.
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+1 yAspergers here. I have no idea what you people are trying to hint at or even that you are trying to hint at something.
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And unless you're trying to hint that you want to talk about establishing space colonies and asteroid mining, honestly, fuck off.43 Reply- +1 y
Glad you're embracing it:)
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You start off life with a huge advantage and a huge disadvantage right off the bat. Very one-sided. So the older you get, the more you tend to improve upon your areas of weakness, the more you can close the gap and eventually even surpass normies when it comes to social skills and communication, etc.
The fact that your superpower is in the areas most foundational to learning and integrating and categorizing information and understanding connections between systems of information, thinking experimentally and across disciplines, so after like 20 years of obsessing about space and History and philosophy and all your other areas of autistic interest, (Dragon Ball Z, etc.) when you finally get around to applying that brain to socialization, you do it very scientifically and methodically and slowly start to improve in leaps and bounds. It's good to be good at learning, it's just hard to learn everything at once, and asteroid mining is way more important than. . . parties, or whatever. - +1 y
Sheldon rules♡
My son has severe autism.
But there's no clear line where autism ends, they just sort of blur into the normal human population. So a lot of people read social cues 'poorly'.
I think it's a shame we don't formally teach it a little more, so many people would benefit.51 Reply- +1 y
With your son it's understandable but I think everyone could benefit from some sort of direction as well.
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+1 ySome context would help here.
I tend to be very blunt with people, partially because I don't really have much for social skills. When other kids were learning how to socialize, I was working on not getting the Fuck beaten out of me by a few older kids, or trying to be unnoticed so that I wouldn't get harassed or blamed for something that the popular kids did. So I'm a little more forgiving of people that don't have much for social skills. I actually prefer people that are blunt, it saves time and eliminates any possible confusion.311 Reply- +1 y
Bluntness cuts through the crap. What's a cue or a clue to one is confusing to another in a more hostile situation.
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Say like someone (a woman) was giving you cues that you were annoying her: frowning, signing, leaving the room to get away ftom you, etc and you just kept bugging her. Those are social cues women give when you're getting on their nerves and then when they start screaming at you or don't want to around, it comes as a surprise.
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Women don't come out and say: "Back off, you're getting on my nerves" because that seems like an invitation to the guy to do it some more.
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You and I are about the same age. I don't understand your point about telling a man to leave you alone. I don't think folks our age find that an invitation.
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@RolandCuthbert You're right but some people find it a challenge to combat.
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I don't get it. Not in my neck of the woods. A man in his 40s is not some socially awkward teenager.
But if you are meeting those types of guys, maybe it is time for a change. Why a man would insist on trying to talk to a woman who outright dislikes him is beyond me?
I have met women who are really insistent. A female security guard frequently asks me out. She doesn't take a hint very well. But I am certain sooner or later, she will get it.
But I don't get annoyed by it. I guess it is different when you are a guy.
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@RolandCuthbert I guess I'm referring to childish guys who don't take social cues lol:)
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You and I are normal mature our age but some people our age aren't. They aren't taking the social cues. They think people are joking when they are serious because their minds aren't as socially developed as they should be at their stage of life.
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Some people truly baffle me. There was an 18 year old in here giving a lady our age advice, sound, sage advice that blowing my mind how to deal with her out of control grown children. So you never know what mental age someone has!
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OK, thanks for the context.
Those examples are easy to recognize, so if someone doesn't get it I'd probably, first, wonder if they were even more socially inept than I sometimes think I am, and second, keep an eye on the situation to see if I needed to be somewhere else, far away, when some faggotass white knight decided to prove something. - +1 y
Well, maybe it isn't so bad.
+1 yI am autistic and don't pick up on social cues too well. I've worked on it a lot-- studying body language, watching Youtube videos, practicing with friends-- and I've made progress, but I still occasionally don't get when someone's joking or being sarcastic. My friends are good at pointing this stuff out to me. I definitely cannot tell when someone is flirting with me. I have learned, though, that if I think someone might be, she probably is, because it must be pretty obvious for me to pick up on it.
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At least you're working on it:)
None of these, as the variables for the situation and the person being exposed to the situation are innumerable.
If I perceived them to be a good person, then I'd take the social pressure off of them some so they can orient themselves and improve for the future.
If I perceived them to be a bad person, then let the public humiliation teach a lesson in humility or self-reflection.
As for social cues in general, I'm split on this matter. Sometimes tradition creates social circumstances and I'm not at all a traditional thinker. What is Right matters more to me than social cues alone.12 Reply- +1 y
Free-thinking, very nice. Thank you:)
+1 ySpeaking of the autism spectrum, it's just that, a spectrum, and plenty of people lie on it without appearing to be blatantly autistic, all the way to just being normal people. These people (of whom I am probably one) do not naturally figure out social cues, and still get ridiculed for it. Not everyone takes social cues! Social cues suck. They do not get to the point, and they are a sort of test of something that should not be used to determine how good someone is as a person.
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It doesn't make you a bad person. It just makes it more of a challenge to communicate.
+1 yI have trouble with this myself. My best friend has Asperger's and his lack of ability to understand inflection and sarcasm really creates some difficult situations. He'll apologise as though you scolded him one second and then fail to apologise when you really are scolding him, seriously hindering his ability to learn. If I don't believe someone to be autistic and they're simply being annoying or needy then I will not tolerate it
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He lacks Theory of Mind, which is an Autistic thing. He gets a free pass to have this problem, in my book♡
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+1 yI mean sometimes it's hard. I don't always take social cues. I don't hate others for it, however if it is pointed out to them, I do believe they should learn how to take social cues instead of continuing on the same path.
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I feel the very same way. If they want to argue about it, then people are going to just keep getting offended by them.
I'll lightly tease the person if I'm friends with them
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That's normal:)
+1 yit's rather unsmart, stupid, unintelligent, boring and obtuse.
but it's more annoying for the person who is giving the cues !13 Reply- +1 y
I hate giving the cues with increasing bluntness and suddenly that person becomes offended that I was so mean I was forced to be blatant. With autism or children of a certain age, it's one thing, but I'm mainly intolerant.
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well, from a funny angle, just think he/she is a dumbo !
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True and they feel compelled not to listen to others. Perhaps someone hurt their feelings once so they shut that down. It's against logic to ignore signs you are annoying or scaring somebody though.
what you mean by social cues? people who dont socialize?
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This is when someone is acting a certain way and making it obvious something is bothering them or that you are doing something which is making them uncomfortable.
3.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I don't mind telling these people they are dorks! It is easy to get caught up in one's head and overlook a social cue.
20 ReplyI would point it out to them in a way that's not rude but where I can get the point across
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You're nice:)
+1 ythey have a choice to take or not take them. im guessing the general interpretation of these individuals is dissappointing but its a choice you can't fault that. it may be annoying but its a justifiable choice. either way
00 ReplyI don't have autism, I'm just seriously oblivious
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same here... it's... screwef me over
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Some people just are! Lol.
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Yeah.. lost out on an ideal relationship too
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@LaughingStick What did you do? Or not do?
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I wish I knew. but fucking women like to not communicate.
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@LaughingStick We do but when we are direct we are out of our comfort zones and usually pretty angry at that point. It's natural for us to put out social cues but guys don't always pick up on them because guys understand directness better.
+1 ycan u give an example of what u mean?
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Say like someone is doing something annoying like making a loud noise and you're not encouraging it. You're frowning or walking away and they are still doing it. The social cue is you showing
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That you don't like it by not smiling or laughing. You're also walking away. And they keep doing it anyway. That's them ignoring the social cue.
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Got it. Kinda like the gum snappers, the knuckle crackers, the nail biters, the nose pickers and my all time favorite; the compulsive talkers (people who never shut up).
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Exactly! Yes, those people!
I'm never experienced stable social ques so
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Your environment was not conducive to them?
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I'm sorry to learn that:/ Why do some resort to such treatment of others?
I see them, but I someone's ignore them.
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You just leave them be?
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Social modification lol.
they annoy the hell out of me
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+1 yThat I beleave is do what you want back to you
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Like "Do Unto Others?"
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Yah like that
Unless they are Autistic, there is no excuse...
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+1 yDepends on the cue. mostly fine with it.
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+1 yD, and probably A too.
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Like trying to tease someone about something they don't think is funny, or bugging someone after they tell you to leave them alone, or laughing when someone is upset or something like that.
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You know, not showing decorum, being a jerk. Making that person uncomfortable because you don't know how to behave.
+1 yI try to ignore it
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People who don't act appropriately in social situations like they don't realize that they are annoying somebody and they should stop.
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