How come men no longer want to be providers/protectors anymore?

[Anonymous]

They want women to be providers. Is it the economy/feminism? I know I am less attracted to men who don't take on that responsibility and put it on their wife or girlfriends shoulders.

[MisterMataMan]

I have noticed that it has part to do with feminism and part to do with the economy. It is nearly impossible for two or more people to live comfortably off of one income. As for the feminism, it is because feminist often say that men shouldn't force themselves to be so stoic, and that emotions are a good thing. This is not always the case, I believe that while showing emotions is good, men need to be able to put that aside and get things done.

[OlderAndWiser]

Feminism has told men that traditional roles are wrong. This is the result. Good work, ladies!

[maiave]

Feminism has told people that traditional roles are not to be expected and forced upon someone.

[OlderAndWiser]

@maiave I have been observing feminism at work for approximately 50 years.

[maiave]

Thanks for the fact, I guess? Still gonna stick to what I said though.

[Bentofish]

Is it fair to blame "All women" for a movement started by a few? Its no better than saying some men Rape so all are Rapists or Criminals. Neither is True. Women who want to fufill their natural role are out there and often punished and resented or put down because of feminism. We are as confused about our modern roles as you guys are!

[Bentofish]

Men are having sex all over the place abandoning children with no role models, escaping into video games-spending all their money on virtural apparal. Wondering why each generation gets worse. Children need fathers and women are all being punished for the actions of a few provoked by goverment that wanted to end the nuclear family to reduce popultion. It was the leaders of the eugenics soceities that funded, supported, and promoted feminism. And only a few key women they chose to engineer the movement. "Majority of women did like our traditional roles and did appreicate and want providers and protectors. However we did want some rights for women. Like a single woman or widow should be allowed to own land. My grandma was single and couldn't own land and almost ended up homless because of the way things were. [The secrect is balance] MTGOW and Feminism are both way too far.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Bentofish

1. Who said "all women?" Not me. Read what I wrote.

2. I am curious about where your grandmother lived that she was not allowed to own property. In the US, laws which restricted women's property rights were almost entirely abolished b 1920.

[karahiri]

eh, i think more men want women who contribute SOMEWHAT to finances. i've never heard of someone expecting a woman to be the sole provider.

anyways, you have a functional brain. what's wrong with having a job? i get wanting to stay at home when you're a mom... but until then... why NOT make money and save up for a nice life together?

[karahiri]

also, i actually find guys who insist that their wife stay at home and cook and clean to be VASTLY unattractive. fuck that. i'm too smart for that.

[hjjgvj]

U ain’t smart bitch I’ve fuckin tracked you down to your flat. I’ve got pictures of you on my wall.
I saw you walking about. You look stupidly short. How do you expect people to take you seriously 😂😂

[maiave]

It's not men's job to protect their girlfriends. If he wants to do it, okay. If he doesn't want to and she's forcing that on him, that's just real fucking shitty of her.

[Bentofish]

I think Both genders fighting their natural roles has led to depression, Loss of Purpose, Toxicity.

I would idealy love a provider-Not a Personal ATM. A contributor who Values his family, His wife, His children and Loves and helps provide for their needs along with his partner. With Women needing to raise the children they should ideally work less because kids to have proper nurturing need at least one parent around some. I miss when Men felt "Big" and you could cuddle in their Chest and feel like a woman and just not have to be "Strong, Tired, exausted all the time" I did not support, start, or recommend feminism but feel punished by the choices of others. And a Man who won't protect his family and abandons his kids or allows his partner to be injured and does nothing isn't really a good guy. So why is the #Provider/Protector role gone? I don't want a guys $ I want him to Value his family, love, cherish, protect and do what he can in a healthy fair way where He has money/time for himself but also shares and doesn't become narssissitic and abandon his kids/abuse his wife which is what happend to us. Its sad times we live in. There is no shame in thinking for yourself and if you feel happiest in Natural Instincutal roles than screw what the media/soceity tells you. Be yourself and the role that doesn't make you stressed and sick. in my opinion and that creates a happy loving familiy that doesn't resent, use, or tire each other out. in my opinion -Most women still value men. Were "Ungrateful" when they ask for excessive praise and the woman is working more, raising the kids, tired as hell, and has to do it almost all. While a guy chills on video games or other escapism and is angry/resentufl because of media/what soceity tells him rather than thinking for himself and doing the role he feels happiest in. Do men really feel best just screwing girls, leaving them to have to be "men" and leaving their sons/daughters to fend for themselves. That is the way soceity is going and Im not heading there. Id rather be alone than support that kind of behavior. A world of using hookers and tramps. Abusing good women and punishing them because feminists are resented is where its going to. Consider each person as an invidiual women are not all "One" and not all the "Same" no more than men are. I actually hate being forced to have to live as a man, Im also not lazy, needy either. Just tired. My hubby died and its darn near impossible to find anyone who values family or treats kids good these days.

[Mega_illuminati]

Apart from modern wave of feminism, it can be mostly attributed to high living standards and consequently, high living cost.

In old days, it was possible for a man to work and support complete family, not just his wife. But now, even with full time jobs, most of the men/women are barely able to provide for themselves, let alone a family.

Additionally, increased options of leisure pursuits, gives the illusion of reduced free time.

[Levin]

An important point here. Even a good professional salary for a guy might not even be enough to support a family/have a high standard of living/get a good house etc.

[Mega_illuminati]

Exactly.

[Levin]

Well women are just as empowered as men these days.

So what being a provider/protector means to you is impossibility high standards in your man that are totally out of sync with reality, unless the guy half kills himself in the process to attain it. You want a power dynamic where the guy is much more successful and attained than you are. But those guys are rare really, can have their pick, and you don't necessarily deserve him (not being nasty), anyway.

[Soteris]

Well to start with it is not really realistic in many places to expect that only one person can comfortably provide for two or an entire family. It is also quite stupid if I do say so myself. If that is what you want then so be it but from where I stand it just feels like you are trying to leech off your man which is ironic considering republican values of self reliance and being productive.

[tartaarsaus]

I don't agree with the premise that men don't want to be protectors. I usually still see guys protecting women.

I think it's merely down to the fact women are expected to have a job, and often have good jobs. Hence there are now two working partners and therefore one is not the sole provider.

[JSmuve]

Because ain't no independent woman need no man to provide for her independent ass. She got that shit on lockdown. She bring home her own bacon. *cue the bra burning and effigy*

[Matt57]

I honestly still prefer the provider/protector role. I just hope to have a good enough job to be able to support my family just on my income.

[princess5680]

Now, where do you live? Can't ever find men like that here...

[pcaddict]

Inly thing i know is, im a born protector, provider, been single long time. All i find are gold digger, i dont trust their intentions, i can see why they give up on wanting ti provide. I dont know any other way for me. I dont blame them.

[Anonymous]

We are not living in ancient times anymore, men don't expect women to be the sole provider, they want them to contribute to finances, divide housework equally. Most housewives get bored and cheat otherwise. Unlike past men can lose everything in divorce...

[NerdInDenial]

Because there are no benefits for men to stay in their traditional roles in modern society.

[daddysir77]

feminism killed "men". we get hated when we want to provide and be men. women get reviled when they want men to do that and they stay a housewife.

[princess5680]

Personally, this extreme feminism notion is a joke...

[princess5680]

I thought it was meant for women to have a CHOICE when she married... for the ones who were bored staying home and wanted more out of their life. But, now it is the norm.. Maybe it depends on where one lives in the USA...

[Dahlius]

Errr I mean ofc I'd protect and help anyone I care about. But I sure as shit don't work so I can be someone else's ATM.

[grega239]

Women wanted equality (feminism) soooo... have fun being a man

[Humbledman74006]

While I am for equal rights and more in my relationships, I am and always have been the primary bread winner. I will protect my family to my death and am quite capable of doing so... I do prefer a female led relationship though.

[TallBill]

Your question is too objective.

I blame 3rd wave (fake) b. s. feminisme for teaching young women to seek out the beta males that can't be providers.

[bekkesmash]

Why should we finacially support a women? it's like paying to date her.

[Soteris]

Sounds like you are paying upkeep for a trophy.

[este1864]

Because women have become ungrateful asses.

[Blitzkrieger]

Women were always workers. Deal with it. The 50's was a one time golden age. Its not coming back.

[Anonymous]

It has nothing to do with not wanting to provide and protect you anymore. We live in an age where women can simply do that for themselves. We don't need to pamper you around anymore. We can help you but we don't need to baby you.

[jamieleerlk]

we do but women weant to be more in power

[Anonymous]

Just one word. Feminism