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I think perfect is a bit too drastic. I think we should be more focused on having a healthy body first. This is a huge problem especially in America. There's a movement called "Body Positivity", or something along those lines, where they claim that it's okay to be obese or extremely underweight. It's not healthy at all to be that way and it doesn't help that this movement harasses people that want to and are trying be healthy.
I think it depends on who you associate with. Depending on interactions I'd say if you lived in a conservative village then not really but if you were the beach typo person then yeah the pressure light be there.
Yes. There's nothing wrong with encouraging women to take care of themselves and be healthy, but how culture continually encourages women to keep aiming for the smallest dress size possible is rather unhealthy.
I think that lately is more about having a body that you feel comfortable in. And lots more body types are "acceptable" compared to the past. I think the pressure for a certain body type is not as big as it was in the past, which is good. :)
I believe we should be advocating for a healthy body. The whole saying about loving yourself is bullshit once your weight passes a certain threshold. But by all means please take care if yourself, becoming a walking stick isn't healthy either.
the pressure is there, but it's up to you whether or not you let it get to you
though a lot of people hold high standards for "beauty", many others support body positivity
not everyone is perfect, so just rock whatever shape you have :D
Yes even if you have a healthy body if you arenβt shaped like kik k you can feel like a trash bag
Men are judged by only their gender . Women are judged by everyone. I mean everyone has something to say about women body. Then there is so much pressure on women.
I respectfully disagree. If men were judged "only by their gender" as you put it, why is there an option to swipe left?
When Vin Diesel was spotted with his "dad bod" that kicked up something of a media sensation. Quite frequently do I also see articles about men taking steroids to build their muscles to get attention from women because they feel under pressure look good for a prospective partner.
I don't agree that men aren't under pressure with their bodies too, certainly in western culture.
@SebShaw82 everyone is pressured. In social media in real life.. We certainly get obsessed with how we look. But i feel women is more exposured to this pressure. why do you think cosmetcis , surgeries evolved this much?
You are aware that men having cosmetic surgery is on the increase as well?
How are men going do speak for women on this subject if they aren't feeling what specifically women feel 😂😂😂😂
That being said, men are also pressured for specific bodies as well.
I don't think there is any more pressure on women than there is on guys
They didn't ask about men vs women. They asked if there was a pressure on women
@bang678 but it was implied versus men... I'm not looking for a convo with a feminist so peace out.
Where was that implied?
that's right, no where
Why do you only say "Women"? I've had it with you liberals/feminists. Yes if a woman wants to be good looking she has to a work on her body. As men do. This whole body thing is just fat whale girls that are too lazy to get in shape and want the best looking men and then they use the good old sexism argument to make themselves feel better
depends on the social circle you're in. also depends on how ambitious the woman is.
Uh huh
Goes for good looks here lol
i think no matter what body positivity messages are out there... women still tend to hate themselves.
Be slim and maintained well = might get a husband.
Be a land whale = die childless and alone, face down in a puddle of cat urine.
There is no pressure. Just choices that have predictable outcomes.
hahaha... very logical... and cold LOL...
but I like it
There was lots of pressure with my first boyfriend. Also lots of pressure in the highschool and under years. In college, people care less. So now i care a little less
How tf u get so many poll answers in 1 day lol. I never get more than like 50-90 poll votes in several days lol
I think the media perpetuates an unrealistic standard of beauty for girls. But in real life, as long as someone is in a healthy weight range, she will do just fine. No one needs to be super lean and fit.
Where did that standard arise from
There is nothing unrealistic about this standard.
@raspberry0416
Also... "no one needs to be super lean and fit." Did you really just type that?
@Anon-ymous1 Lol, she thinks being healthy and fit is an unrealistic standard. I bet she is only attracted to athletic muscular men herself. What a hypocrite!
Neither one of you seem to understand what I'm saying.
I understood you clearly. In real life if you are a girl you will do just fine if you are not obese, but if you are a guy and you are not tall and muscular girls think they are settling for you. Unless you are tall and muscular, getting a date is really hard for you.
So it's clearly hypocritical of girls to speak about pressure when the pressure on guys is 100 times bigger.
@raspberry0416
No, I understand what you said very well. And it's scary and sad that you feel that way.
@Anon-ymous1
There's nothing scary or sad about what I wrote.
@raspberry0416
Maybe you just aren't filling out the whole picture for us, but based solely on what you said anyway, do you not realize that you're actually arguing *against* healthy physical fitness? Like... what? What sense does that make? What if people who wanted to be Olympians someday listened to advice like yours? Or just athletes in general? You're arguing against human athleticism (athleticism is a good thing, by the way) when you say something like that. I just... I cannot understand the rationale behind that. It's completely insane.
@Anon-ymous1
I'm not arguing against healthy physical fitness. I'm saying it's not necessary to achieve a high level of physical fitness for anyone, in order to be considered attractive. This is true and it has nothing to do with people who want to be professional athletes.
Sigh. Keep telling yourself that.
Then wonder why the vast majority of people reject what you're saying, and routinely pick in "WHO IS MORE ATTRACTIVE BETWEEN THESE PEOPLE" polls generally whoever is the slimmest and/or fittest, for both sexes, time and time and time again.
@Anon-ymous1
Actually it's funny you say that. For polls where men pick which body type in a woman they find most attractive, most pick a woman who is curvy but still in a healthy weight range. Yes there are those in the minority who prefer super fit athletic women (meaning women with very low body fat), but that's the minority.
Also I'm not getting any downvotes so it seems like you're the only person who doesn't agree.
Downvotes... sigh. Okay.
And... no. They don't. At least on this site (which you think is important since you mentioned downvotes), in the "How do I look" section, literally every time there is a poll between "Which one of us/my friends is prettier?", you know who both guys AND girls are picking, 9 out of 10 times?
The slimmer one. Go ahead, check for yourself. I'm not lying.
Yeah women tend to overly conscious about their bodies. I would prefer her intellect over her body coz u can't always have fun with the "sunny leone" version of someone.
No, I think that there's too much acceptance for being out of shape and overweight.
Agreed. We canβt change our face but we can all improve our bodies and our well being. Thatβs a choice we all make and if youβre too lazy to workout and eat right then thatβs on you (not including illnesses or medication that make it difficult/impossible to do so).
@zoealexis97 exactly π
Depends what you mean by pressure. The advertising industry has always been wildly irresponsible about this, and it has been shown to impact on mental health. That being said, if any guy or girl wants to genuinely attract someone, it's reasonable to make some effort to be appealing. Sexual/ romantic success is always a bonus and never a right.
What annoys me is that no-one recognises that there are similar pressures on men.
Actually several people on here have already acknowledged that
There is pressure, but I don't really feel pressured, I just like to look how I want to look, and I believe that I am pretty attractive already.
sorry i don't care. men have pressure too. women want handsome men and we want beautiful women just apart of life.
Yes my mother and my brother used to tease me about the size of my boob's because they are small.
It made me feel worthless and unattractive.
When I was younger yes there was pressure in highschool amongst the girls and it still exists. However as I'm older now got fed up with being overweight and went from
Sent the message through too soon. Went from 167 to 100 at 5'3".
there is only to much pressure if you let it get to you. witch is shitty, because almost all girls love fashion, make up, shoes. basically just shit that is completely nonfunctional in almost every way except making the girl feel "pretty."
ehh its not as bad as they make it out to be and the same sentiment also applies to men but to a lesser extent
There's too much pressure on guys to have big muscles and a 6-pack
I like how women downvoted you haha
They could comment why instead of down voting
I didn't downvote you, but they probably did because most women don't actually like big muscles that much. Most of them would pick a slim guy who's nicely toned over a body builder guy with rock hard abs any day of the week, myself included.
Big muscles or toned, I think the sentiment is the same? Women want men to have perfect bodies too.
No, there's a difference. Toned is less extreme than big muscles, at least from my perspective. Slightly toned is good, but when guys go overboard it just doesn't look as great.
I wasn't disagreeing with the difference between muscled or toned. I was saying that either way, women still prefer men to look like they care about their bodies.
Well of course we do. Men prefer women to look like they care about their bodies. There's nothing wrong with either.
You're 100% right. I was just trying to clarify what Surgence said. Also sorry Surgence for having an entire conversation under your post haha
There is? How dude? Girls love that stuff but I don't see them exclusively chasing the guys with that stuff. Source: Me. I'm pretty well-muscled, tall, and have abs, and I barely get chased at all. Same as the other guys I know who look the same.
Then I guess your face or personality is really off-putting?
@dom123098 Lol nah man, I mean I get told I'm attractive by my female friends, most of them I guess, but there's a big difference between that and getting chased. It's not a personality thing either.
Well then I guess you're America's biggest mystery.
@dom123098 Shrug. Guess so.
I don't know about how much pressure, but women can have their ideal body much more easily than men can because it takes way more work and dedication to build muscle than it does to just be thin.
People that haven't ever been in actual good shape won't understand how much work it really takes.
Yes, women who would be considered beautiful without photoshop are now called ugly because of standards that no human can achieve
Any pressure that is put on you is ultimately put on you by yourself. While society may assist, at the end of the day, how much pressure that is put on you to look a certain way is done so by yourself.
there's pressure on both sexes but with females a bit more since everyone is just prancing around in a thong on the beach xD
Perfect body is not necessary. Don't force yourself to be healthy if you are genetically obese. But other guys can try eating and staying healthy
If the girls were planning to go for becoming America's Next Top Model or something like that then yes. If not, no.
No. You don't have to have a perfect body, but at least go to the gym a couple of times a week to get your body the best it can be. To be fair men have just as much pressure.
Judging by the amount of unkempt fat women, if there is any pressure it is clearly nowhere near enough.
Sure there is pressure. But I honestly think that there's as much pressure as you allow yourself to be pressured
Thought big boobs are a blessing :p
@jbskhan back pain is a blessing yes sure
Oh come on.. it's the part of your body.. u r not carrying some extra weight lol
@jbskhan actually big boobs does give you back pain. They literally are like an extra weight
Well I have never heard any big boob girl complaining about back pain :o
Nah, the pressure is perfeftly acceptable. Women don't make great efforts to make men feel secure about having an average penis so I don't care if there's something of their own to experience anxiety over.
Heck yes and technology reminds of us this everyday even from just doing something simple like watching tv
No. I mean, it's out there but no one is specifically telling us how we have to look.
It's not too much. Too much though is saying that woman in the middle of that photo is fine the way she is.
There is pressure on woman and men to look a certain way. Guys don't care as much as women do though. Except for their precious penis because so many guys are sensitive and insecure about it which is ridiculous.
I'd say no because we all should be pressured to reach what potential our bodies have and with rising obesity rates, "perfect bodies" serve as motivation to obtain healthy bodies
Far to much pressure for them to have perfect bodies. Unfortunately there is also far to little pressure for anyone (guys and girls) to have healthy bodies.
There's pressure on everyone to have a perfect body. Ideals are unobtainable by design. That's what keeps you striving to improve.
I think most the pressure on woman, comes from other woman
Yes, but this pressure is not solely placed upon women. Men are just as likely to suffer from a bodily dysmorphic disorder, but due to their goals and ideas of an 'ideal' body they are less likely to be seen as person who needs help.
There is pressure on women, but there is also plenty of pressure on guys. Women are just more subtle about how they apply it.
Definitely, it's pretty bad. I wanna kms everyday over it
We are far too forgiving of Fatties.. Move.. move .. move
Yes fortunately I have been blessed with good genes.
jeez
you are 40 years old. if you still look good i will be amazed
@Seanfahey Be amazed then LOL hahaha
ha. lol.
What about pressure on guys to have a perfect body?
What's the definition of the perfect body?
Each to their own.
This is the definition for a girl:
https://data.whicdn.com/images/183189313/large.jpg
This is the definition for a boy:
i.pinimg.com/.../...42468b--sexy-guys-sexy-men.jpg
Yeah, pretty much and the pressure is from other girls.
Most guys I know are just happy to be there. lol
Based on the increasing obesity rate in the US, there isn't enough pressure or education about healthy lifestyles.
Yeah there is. And that's why my Belly dance teacher started her studio, to help women gain self confidence.
Unfortunately there is. But i dont mind a slim, medium or thick women if i am attracted to them its kl
2nd, 3rd and 6th from the left have good healthy bodies the rest are fat or obese. No there is not enough pressure. The fat acceptance movement needs to be stamped out.
Yes, but guess what? Most of the pressure is applied by women.
Yes , girls are pressured to look good and have a perfect body.
There is plenty of pressure on men too; women aren't alone in this.
Yes but I fit cause I want to plus i like women I been big girl before so not for me.