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I think that there is more pressure by society. In reality, a guy is wiling to have sex with a fat girl and the sex can be amazing.
if we are talking about a relationship. Thats a different stories. I dated an obese woman for 2 years and I wouldn't want that again. She stopped smoking and let herself go.
Letting yourself go and just piling on weight because you feel secure in a relationship is bullshit and absolutely unacceptable! If you are a guy or a gal you need to be healthy and exercise and increase your life expectancy with the person you love.
I know what I am saying may offend people but I dont give a shit. All that should happen is you should care and try to be healthy. Sitting there and thinking you can each chocolate cake, soda, nachos, steaks, and sugar all day.. then gaining 50 pounds of weight.. then refusing to exericise because "a man should accept me as I am.." Hell no!
part of a relationship is wanting to please your partner and be attractive to them. Beauty is a part of that. It means yes, you try to live up to the same standards you did when you first started dating. yes, it means eating healthy and living healthy. That is the role of a partner.
If you don't respect yourself then you can't respect your partner.
My last ex was overweight. Then she was obese. Then I didn't say anything and she felt insecure because I was fit and slim. Then the difference between our health made her jealous of women looking at me. Then the more she got bigger the more insecure she got. She decided to work out and I gave her positive encouragement but told her she was beautiful and I loved her. But then she saw that other women at the gym would check me out. Then she got insecure about slow progress.
If you are a beautiful curvy woman. My recommendation is to get a personal trainer. If you can't do that work out alone. Do not work out with your partner! Stay focused in the gym. Dont be distracted by your partner. And view health as a year long project not something that changes over night! Obesity doesn't change the beauty of who you are. But how you address your health determines how much respect you have for yourself and your partner.
@Jameswbj1 I think that is accurate. But I also think it is what turns people on sexually. I would say that white men generally like a really skinny girl. But black men really like curves and breasts. Black men like large breasts with a nice round butt. I am a black man and I wold prefer to have sex with a check who has nice breasts and is overweight slightly than with some skinny chic who has no breasts. Its a cultural thing I think. I just think that curves are sexy as hell.
It is actually kind of funny. What you see in society is white guys rejecting the curvy white chic. Her heart gets broken. Then she gets with a black guy with a large penis and they end up being together instead. All because black men view white women as exotic and they like a larger curvy build.
@Jameswbj1 lol. Stop. You are being sexist!
am i supposed to like what they want me to like? No. Here is where the discussion should end. But here are some extra thoughts:
I want to have fun while I'm on this planet and I want to enjoy what I find beautiful. Also if I'm about to have children I want them to be healthy good looking smart motherfuckers :D
If girls have nothing against me not liking them, then they can let themselves go as they please and look as they please. I don't waste time on finger pointing, so there will be no pressure from me.
downvote for expressing your preferences and your freedom to choose. Imagine if these people would actually have power. What would they do with it?
force guys to marry girls they don't like and kill all the girls that have certain traits?
PS: can admins seriously force the down voters to actually reply, at least we can all laugh at their comments and way of thinking.
The focus shouldn't be on perfect body but healthily weight and healthy fat ratio. Excercise because it makes you healthy not for appearance. And it's fun!!
Every dimple in skin or ounce of fat in a bikini is a problem. I used to be skinny fat meaning I didn't have enough tone and still had some undesirable fat and a flat bumpy ass. Even though I was really skinny and 26.
Once I learned to activate my glutes during exercise my ass was no longer flat or bumpy and looked good in a bathing suit.
BUT the important thing is that I learned to be okay with my imperfect ass and tiny amount of healthy fat just below my naval.
My quads were over powering my glutes and messing up my running so I worked hard to fix it so I could run more efficiently. Not to look good swimming.
Your body is your body. You should treat it well and be health a trim but the pressure to have a perfect body leads to addiction and disease. Workout addiction, eating disorders and negavitely affects your ability to perform any other life function. It can become the center of your existence.
Yes. And of course there are similar pressures when it comes to men. However, it seems like the pressure is a lot more narrow and widespread when it comes to women.
"Women are significantly more likely than men to report body checking and avoidance, binge eating, fasting, and vomiting"
Study: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2696560/
And although eating disorders have a wide variety of reasons behind them, not just insecurities regarding bodies, in my experience most girls who suffer from eating disorders do so because they feel pressured to look a certain way and end up taking it to the extreme. Women are also more likely to get plastic surgery/go under the knife for cosmetic reasons. Women account for 92% of all cosmetic procedures.
What the individual person views as "pressure" is different, as seen by the answers on here. But statistics don't lie. Women, as a whole, experience more pressure to look a certain way just by taking a look at the eating disorder pandemic, as well as plastic surgery rates.
Men aren't usually trying to appear thin so they wouldn't starve themselves. Young guys tend to strive to be a combination of large or muscular to have the sexually dimorphic difference that women do in the opposite way. Well that's why I felt I was supposed to be like. I felt like women wanted body builders even though most girls weren't even attracted to that. And I bet girls perceptions are off as well. The media is pretty much fake news.
@cavmanier there are several different kinds of eating disorders, not just anorexia (what you described, starving). There's also bulimia which is about binge-eating and purging (vomiting, over-exercising etc). Then we have BED, binge eating disorder, which is also about binging but later on the person just feels a lack of control and guilt. Men can experience any of these eating disorders, it's just less common. It's more common for men to experience muscle dysmorphia, orthorexia and excessive exercise. And even then, the amount of men suffering from such severe body image issues to the point where it's affecting their daily lives, are significantly less common than women suffering from similar or the same issues.
I know there are more than one eating disorders lol. I was mainly trying to say men really aren't really trying to appear thin which takes away incentive to not purposely not eat so of course there's less eating disorders for men. I would broaden body image issues to self desirability issues or self worth issues, and I don't think you have a way of knowing of how common that is for guys. Guys seem to have a lot more difficulty getting dates which can shatter their perception of worth or desirability. Western culture and maybe an entire world culture of putting the burden of initiating dates on men is a huge issue for most men apparently. I haven't tried online dating, but if you do a simple youtube search of online dating, you'll see many even attractive guys describing how terrible getting a girl to talk to them is.
Yes, that pressure nearly killed me, for two years I was eating >600 calories a day, wouldn't eat anything until 9pm and it was usually a bowl of cereal or a smoothie (on particularly extravagant days I had exactly 6 dinosaur chicken nuggets) I was already a perfectly healthy weight, full middle of the road weight, but I was always told I needed to be thinner and that shit sent me to the hospital man.
I'm back to a healthy weight (as opposed to my dramatically underweight past self) but I get all kinds of shit from my parents saying "it's a shame you got fat again after all that work" the work mind you, was starving myself to near death. And my "fat" self is again... a healthy weight for a 5'7 person, and on the low end of that and I still have a pretty weird relationship with food. This is why I don't go home anymore. Raising your kids on diet culture is only going to end poorly.
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It seems that way but a lot of guys really arenāt as picky as they say. They say they want a 10 but they routinely date 5s.
Oh no... we still want the 8 or 9 or 10. The ones who date the 5s do so because of low self-esteem and thinking they cannot get the hotter girl, which a lot of time is true-- they can't.
But how many are actually 8 - 10? The whole point of a 5 is that she is average and that means there are more 4 - 7s than actual 8 - 10s. Also what one man may think of a 5, another may see as a 7.
I also think many guys overestimate their own worth, same with women. And looks, while they matter to attraction, isn't the end all be all. For me, I will take a woman who can't keep her hands off me and is a 5, over an 8 or a 9 who is aloof and who is stiffer than a board in bed. Attitude matters so much more.
If she is completely unattractive that is one thing, not much you can do about that. However, if she isn't a perfect ideal woman in the looks department, but she rocks your world otherwise, then what is there to complain about? That she has stretch marks, some extra pounds, and she has imperfections?
That is a sure fire way to never getting laid or finding love if an average guy is expecting to bag an exceptional woman. Even if a guy upgrades himself, need to be realistic.
@freakyzeaky If you say so.
@freakyzeaky I agree 100%. I wouldn't date a Calvin Klein model who has nothing to offer besides his six pack.
@babylips14 I am not even talking about 10s either. People assume high expectations are a CK or a VS model, but for a 5 who is overweight and with some unconventional features and quirks, he or she might still need to aim lower than the super cute barista who obviously goes to the gym regularly and is has a larger than life personality.
I am not saying there are leagues, but people who have lots of options tend to have higher expectations. Attractive 8s will usually pass on a 5 or lower in the looks department because they will think they deserve more. The problem is the 5 also thinks he or she deserves more than other 5 or 6s.
I think there is pressure for both sexes. Just in different ways.
I dont feel the pressure honestly, but when I see my 7 year old sister obsessing over her makeup and trying to get skinny (she hasn't discovered the relationship between weight and food yet thank god, just exercise) i start to wonder if maybe im just the odd one out. Maybe there is this metric butt tonne of pressure tellng women to have the perfect bodies and im just somehow immune to it all.
Either way. There are people out there who think women should be perfect, and there are women listening to them.
In a way yes. I think in specific parts of the media, there is very much a type of body that influences women to look like that are entirely unattainable/unhealthy for most people for example:
most of the modelling industry - very tall, boyish figure, BMI < 16.5
victoria's secret - the same as regular models except with a more curvy body and slightly higher BMI ~ 17
instagram - very curvy, less emphasis placed on height but unrealistic bodily proportions
This can be incredibly damaging to some women who seek perfection in these areas, although it's not universal.
Yeaaaah. There's a lot of expectations that we all know we can't all reach yet we still strive to achieve it. There's so much to reach that you wonder if you're good enough because you can't possibly tick each box let alone the ones that people reallly want. And then just incase you've forgotten what you need to look like some picture perfect girl is thrusted into your face and all the boys are all over so you question yourself. It feels like you're always being told what to look like or have in order to be "attractive".
No more then men, in fact probably less with all this campaigning about the "unrealistic" beauty standards women face (yet oddly enough the ones for men, like them having to be over six feet tall are still the norm). In fact according to one study men have more body image issues then women: www.theguardian.com/.../body-image-concerns-men-more-than-women
Of course there is, not only girls, but for boys as well.
Marketing campaigns are very vicious these days, they can convince you pretty good in terms of making insecure about yourself, if everybody was content with themselves more than half of the beauty products in the market would disappear rapidly.
They know when you guys watch TV, they know which sort of AD's do you guys gravitate towards more, they want you to become their consumers and would keep making sure that you keep coming back for more.
It's not easy to come out of this circle, but it's not impossible either, at the end of the day the choice is always in your hands.
There are more obese US adults than those who are just overweight. According to a study in The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), in 2008, the obesity rate among adult Americans was estimated at 32.2% for men and 35.5% for women; these rates were roughly confirmed by the CDC again for 2009ā2010. Then if you include obesity and overweight people, the number of adults who are overweight according to the CDC is 70.7% (2013-2014).
I think that's the real problem here, not women being expected to be slim.
It depends on the individual.
It's cause of the media that has bombarbed us as a women to follow their beauty standard such as having a toned body, abs, and many others.
But for me, i just want to enjoy my life. You only live once and you should live your life with the way you want without following that beauty standards.
About 6 months ago, i went on diet. I reduce eating carbs. I used to eat vegetables, i exercise regularly and i used to do that as a lifestyle. but, those didn't work. Maybe those will work if i change my mindset. My mindset that time was i just wanted to have body like a catwalk model. That's it. And that's totally wrong at all. That's just an obsession.
So, i stop that.
I ate all i want. I ate carbs as usual i eat. And i'm happy with that. Now i just exercise regularly for my health. Not for getting a good shape.
And study has shown that most women try to get a perfect body not to attract men. But to compete with other women.
Not in the way it's usually suggested, no. In advertising and dipiction in the media in general it often looks the opposite: that is, women who are overweight to the point of being clearly hampered by extraneous bulk appear to be deliberately included where all that is necessary is for a female human form to be shown, and it would have been most appropriate to choose one that worked properly. This isn't so for men. Men are not considered attractive if overweight and male clothes models are always slim.
In the UK, publicly rum health and leisure facilities like swimming pools routinely publish graphic info dipiction obese females as though this is something to which girls should aspire. Being overweight is now seen as a condition that cannot be changed as though it's an innate genetic or inherited condition.
well If I'm working hard... ya I want this lol... and to be honest.. fuck that makes me do things I would never do for a girl hahah... call me shallow if you like, maybe I am... but fuck --> just can't help it.. neither can girls though. Its deeper than just its a hot body... having a hot body makes me feel sexy too... it's a confidence boost for myself and things feel like you're on a higher frequency.. I dunno, I think this is a human flaw... our eyes but yet also a gift
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Of course there's pressure, on guys and girls. There are "perfect" examples of men & women on the toob, in magazines, on billboards, and even some genetic freaks walking among us.
Women take it harder than men because of evolution. We're not that far removed from a time when looks were all that women could offer, and therefore that's all that mattered. Since these girls are their mothers' daughters, and they were their mothers' daughters, some of that mentality is inherited, and some still gleaned or even trained. As more women go out and build quality lives of hard work, skill, education & training, experience & luck, each generation will be more confident in their ability to offer much more than just a pretty face & nice figure. Looks will matter less.
The reverse is true for fellas too. It's a large part of the reason for anti-feminism backlash.
Well I mean... guys just wouldn't be as attracted to a girl that's obese vs his ideal body. There's no pressure if you don't care to be attractive to the opposite sex. It's same for guys but to a lesser extent because girls are more emotional beings than physical. Are we going to apologize for what we're biologically programmed to be attracted to? No. Also, if anything it gives a good standard for a physically fit body. Rather than complain about fat shaming and "pressure," they should just have a healthy diet and workout frequently.
I think there is pressure on girls and guys. No one has the perfect unless they are born with one or put in the work to maintain that perfect body by dieting and working out daily. If a women is overweight then of course she will feel the pressure when looking at other women who have the perfect body and feel a bit bad. I just think that the world that we live in places too much looking good. Sure it's good as far not having problems with your health later on but overdoing it to have the perfect body would be going over the limit.
Not much.
There's a difference between things you can change about your body, and things you cannot. Weight *is something that anyone can change.* Period. "Ohhh but it's harrrrdddd... " Yeah, losing weight is hard, but it's possible. If someone is just tall or short or has a lot of body hair or has a disability or something literally unchangeable, that's different. The problem these days (and it's been this way for years now) is that girls seem to lump all that stuff *into the same category.* They say stuff like "some guys like thick (fat) girls" or whatever else they tell themselves. Guys don't tell themselves that, because their guy friends call them out for being out of shape. "Hey man let's go to the gym, you're gaining a few too many," or whatever. Do girls do that? Seems like they don't. So where's the pressure?
There is, if they allow it. I've literally never been bothered by this shit, but i know a few girls who are too worried about others and very insecure people who place way too much value on looks who gets really down over this stuff and feel like shit that they can't match up to a man made image in a magazine that doesn't reflect reality.
There is way too much pressure on them, especially on younger women. Not only does it create unnecessary stress for women, but it's nowhere near as important as her personality (and not just for romantic relationships). If she has a great body, super, but she still needs a good personality.
Trans women are held to a very high standard, as many people expect them all to fully transition perfectly. But I think that in the mainstream media thereās less pressure on women than there is on men. Iām told Iām beautiful if I donāt wear makeup or donāt have abs or perfect curves but I see so many of these same people telling guys theyāre unhealthy or ugly for not being fit/tall. Critiquing their hair, skin, everything
Well maybe they wouldn't be under pressure (that's a good song) if they understood biology
Maybe you wouldnāt be responding if you understood psychology and neuroscience because youād know how complicated gender and identity can be.
Letās say thereās more pressure on girls to have the perfect body than guys. I think by the general societyās standards. Hollywood has painted the picture of the perfect female body and itās like girls are held to those standards. Apparently anything over a size 6 is plus size to Hollywood. Thatās insanely ridiculous.
You are wrong.
Yes there is everyday we go on social media there is some women with the " Perfect body " which it's obvious that she's not natural, then the rest of society and other women. We get made fun of if we don't have the perfect hourglass body. Which is why plastics surgery us higher in women than men.
In my experience, Iāve been body shamed by bigger girls who are jealous of me and tell me that I have āskinny privilegeā. I run every day, play sports, and have an insanely healthy diet. Meanwhile, these are some of the laziest girls Iāve ever met and theyāre telling me that being skinny is a privilege.
There's a lot of pressure, but I don't feel it's excessive. We honestly shouldn't have to be pushing the idea of being healthy so much, it should be something these women want to be already, but nope, you got obese women who are 200-400+ lbs crying about how they don't get men even though they're so hot and "curvy".
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Because it was a must for a girl to at least make the body not bulky, or fatty. Just ideal
Men are supposed to be tall, muscular, broad-shouldered. Women are just supposed to be not fat. How is there lots of pressure on girls?
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there's pressure for both females and males and its thrown around everywhere these days, it's more of seeing pictures everywhere of the ideal body but these days you starts to see various body types so I guess it's starting too loosen, depends on how each person sees it themselves tho :)
Yes, I remember always finding something to obsess about my face or body, no matter what I fix, I always find something else that's not deemed "desirable"
It's a lose lose battle, you can't win
You just have to figure out that it's not worth it, there is nothing more liberating than being you
I thinks times are changing and body positivity is getting better however when I see someone complain about a girls tummy, I get mad. We (no matter how skinny) have a bit of extra fat on our stomachs to protect our ovaries and so it creates a bubble effect when a woman is skinny and not necessarily very toned. Itās natural and when Iāve heard a guy call out rude things about us having big guts, it irritates me slightly. But times are getting better for both genders and thatās great!
Nope, it's all in their heads. Many women I know who say that say it all while shoving a whole pizza down her mouth, she has a man and a child friends who don't hate her and a job. She is just saying that because she wishes more women would join her in not giving a shit.
Unfortunately, there's too much pressure on everyone to look a certain way. Recently I've been feeling especially down about my weight, so I've looked up bmi charts and things like that, but found that nearly all of them were suggesting seriously low weights for both genders. Weights that a medical professional would tell you was far below average. Men are expected to have muscles and strength. Women are expected to have nice figures and big boobs/butts.
It's not the media lol men like healthy woman, and a healthy women doesn't have rolls of fat around her. I am 6'2 and 150 pounds so if a girl is shorter than me and weighs more than that, it's gunna be pretty hard to feel like the big one, which is what all men want to feel like around their woman. Fat acceptance is disease acceptance, being fat is unhealthy, being too skinny is bad too but it's easier for a skinny person to put on weight than a fat person to lose it. There's honestly a really simple way to avoid getting fat and I'll share it with you all!!!
DON'T EAT SUGAR!!! DO NOT CONSUME SUGAR OR ASPARTAME!!! Drink lots of water and get lot's of VIGOROUS exercise if you don't feel like puking and shitting all at once sometimes during your workout routine YOU ARE TRASH!!! Everyone needs an inner drill sergeant... or a pt BUT WHO CAN AFFORD THAT AHHA
When I see a guy that looks better then me, even if itās unrealistic, I find it as inspiration to become a better version of myself. All these models are both genetically gifted, they diet and work out. If some women donāt want to do that, thatās fine, but I think itās stupid to normalize obesity, which is really unhealthy. Also these models are picked for theyāre beauty. Theyāre job is to be beautiful, so no I donāt think itās fair to take the job away from these models, just because some woman wants to eat pizza and ice cream all day, then expect to marry a rich beautiful man. Sry for the rant. Cheers
Yes, almost every woman I know is either talking about the latest fad diet, on a diet, or telling others what to eat or not to eat. Some are even more extreme and will tell you if they think you look good and whether you've lost or gained weight since they've last seen you (which is sometimes last week).
It's exhausting being around them.
There was a long time ago, but now I say they're trying to level it out these days by presenting all different body types. But it's still obvious which body type America/media pushes to be the hottest body:
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But at the same time the flip is becoming a problem. The large woman "pride". I'm sorry it's not a matter of looks, it's a matter of health. Do not be "proud" of being obese and unhealthy. If your overweight but not unhealthily so, then by all means do your thing. Because the pressure to be thin goes too far as well and is often unhealthy in itself. It would be great if there was social pressure to take care of oneself. Not look a certain way.
There used to be. Now they've gone the equally destructive route and put too little pressure to even be healthy, let alone perfect. I live in a country where 3 out of 4 people are overweight and 1 out of 3 people are obese. There evidently isn't too much pressure over here on women to stay healthy - the same goes for the men.
Its beauty standarts.. even from middle age. If a woman is beautiful she is sucessful. Nowadays is the same... if you look good you can get a better job, a richer guy and so on. Although I do not think it should be paid so much attention on how many kg you have but just how neat and clean you are. Yes I still think there is some unconscious pressure to every girl.
1 males and females have a "market value" to each other
2 this value is set by biology, environmental pressure, and competition
3 much of this pressure is applied by women to women, or by a company who is making money which in turn boils down to women buying because they allowed the pressure to force their actions
Keeping in reasonably good shape is important, not just for looks, but for health. By reasonably good shape, I mean keeping muscle tone good, not getting too much over weight, etc. Being healthy, and being active to feel good is much more important than for looks.
I'm not here to judge but I think standards have changed for good for women now days most of us don't like all skiny but a bit thicc and bit bigger ass is great, but sometimes there is that if she is just too fat. I really can't say more about pressure because I'm not girl. I read some forum's and girls were like "I saw his dick and it was under 5 inches not seeing him again hahah" guess what bitch you can workout stop laying on bed and eating chips but what can guy do about it.. nothig. Not really a problem for me but just by reading some forum's I feel bad..
there's pressure on everyone to be spineless drones, takes different form but its all about having little to no personality or dignity. some people are slaves to this others fight to be human. its not about gender. perfection is the absence of life. living things evolve. perfection is static.
Being gat is unhealthy and can lead to serious issues. This can also lead to waste of recources to help those people. I get that some people have disorders and can't exactly help it, but lazy people need to get off their arses and go for a walk a day at the very least.
Hahaha you can clearly see the difference in opinions.
Guys think it's not while gals think it's too much.
Here is my opinion, none of the women actually have to have a perfect body. They can do whatever they wanted but they wanted the perfect body because that's what they think the men desire.
I put the pressure on myself. Nobody else did. I'm glad I did though. If I didn't, I would have failed trying to slim down from the fat "lard ball" I once was. That pressure is now off and I'm very pleased at myself.
Asking the men who says there isn't enough pressure on women to have the perfect body, how do you explain that 90% of people with eating disorders are young females? And that nowadays even 6 years old girls feel like they are too fat and need to diet?
Case closed. -_-
... Because lots of 6 year old girls (and boys) actually *are* too fat? I don't know where you live, but here in the States, obesity is rampant and a serious national health problem. It's just one that no one wants to acknowledge.
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agreed obesity needs to be addressed
Most children I see around aren't obese (but I'm also not from the States).
But seriously, eating disorders are not a joke. And constant shaming is the reason more and more people get eating disorders.
But okay, let's live in a bubble and have every woman to be 100lbs and 5'9" because that's pretty and dismiss any health issues...
Healthy ratio is important. 5'9" and 100 isn't realistic. 5'9" and 125 or 130 is realistic. And who says it's a joke? Are you seriously suggesting that someone bringing up the *fact* that obesity is rampant and a national health problem in the States is the same as making light of eating disorders? What are you talking about?
I'm talking about the pressure people (especially women) face to look perfect. Even eating in public (no matter what you look like) gets you men commenting that you shouldn't eat that because you will get/are fat or whatever. Obesity is obviously not good, but why can't children be taught (along with their parents) what's healthy and what's not, instead of shaming everyone who doesn't live up to the airbrushed standard?
Where's the shame?
While growing up, I have been bullied for not being a size 00, on the streets I got yelled at to put down the junk food numerous times and I have been told that I'm too ugly to date by everyone, male, woman, old, young, etc. Mind you, at that time I was about 5'6" and 130lbs.
I'm sorry that you personally have been the brunt of a lot of shitty behavior. "Shame" is not supposed to be a driving factor in peoples' treatments of each other. No one should be *mean* to one another; that's pretty crummy. Yet at the same time there is *nothing wrong* with guys wanting fit/slim girls. Nothing. Just like there's nothing wrong with girls being attracted to this:
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Humans are animals. It is what it is.
I get what you mean and I agree, but my personal experience just makes me mad when people say there isn't enough shaming.
A lot of women are attracted to that example of a fit male, but still, date, get into a relationship with and marry average and heavyset men. There are many factors that lead to attraction.
A woman can be attracted to a guy like Ryan Reynolds, but she knows that chances are she will never get with him and mature women know that looks fade and will go with a guy who is more compatible over a guy who is eye candy but isn't a good match. Many guys will think with their little head, even when it comes to relationships. That 5 might be perfect for him in every way and is still reasonably attractive, but because she isn't a 7 or above, he will discount her.
No wonder so many guys fail with women. Everyone thinks they deserve the best. It doesn't work that way.
"You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes
You just might find you get what you need!"
Hmmm, I'm not crazy educated on this being a small white boi... However, I do feel like a double standard is there. Men face as much as women do and it has been declining based on "plus sized" modeling and other campaigns. I obviously have a different opinion on this topic but it would offend all the liberal snowflakes.
The women put the pressure on themselves. It's up to us to decide if we think all we're worth is a "perfect body". I know I have had my doubts. But really... it's all in or heads. Everyone can blame it on society, but it's our own crazy mind sets.
Healthy and reasonably firm, not hard bodied and you're doing well. Height and weight proportionate counts a lot but how you carry what weight you have makes a huge difference as well.
That's just supposing the body, the face is more important but that's another opinion.
There's a lot of pressure on guys too. I've seen plenty of fatty girls criticize the looks or lack of abs on a dude, where they do nothing to get in better shape themselves. So I think if there is pressure on women, it likely comes from themselves, other women or the media. MOST dudes aren't as picky.
I'd say the complete opposite. There is NOT ENOUGH pressure on women to have the perfect body, since many women nowadays are letting themselves be told that they can be fat and unattractive and still be healthy and beautiful at any size, which is an obvious lie. Same applies to men.
Yes, now girls are expected to have slim waists, big breasts, wide hips, and a round bum. Celebs like Kim K, Coco Austin, Nicki Minaj, etc. now have teen girls chasing this figure and feeling bad if they arenāt able to achieve it (A majority simply canāt without surgery).
Men are supposed to be tall, muscular, broad-shouldered. Women are just supposed to be not fat. How is there lots of pressure on girls?
Those celebs you just mentioned look like shit; they're unattractive and fake and their asses are too big.
Ironically all of them have had surgery somewhere lol
Wtf do you mean if your a guy don't comment? Guys have it as fucking had as girls. Ugh so narcissistic.
When hasn't there been too much pressure, I wish everyone would just calm down about it, if you want to be thin then just be thinking if you want to be the meaning of thicc then by thicc it's whatever for me I like women with any body type. I have a loving girlfriend of 2 years and I'm happy with what I have.
I think so. I think that media (tv, movies, magazines, etc.) put an emphasis on how someone "should look". I understand being fat is unhealthy and a person should make changes to make themselves healthier, but they should do if for their health; not for what someone else thinks they should look like.
Girls seems to think that anything over stick thin is somehow horrific. Most guys don't mind chubbiness. When guys say they find fat girls unattractive they mean FAT. Obese women are unattractive (and so are obese men).
Where's the line, my dude
Ther's only for those that are insecure since they try to live there life's after what other's say and think instead of being themselves & stop caring what other's think & say.
The funny thing is that females put the pressure on each other & themselves.
Honestly no. Women are just pressured not to be extremely overweight. Most men would date a girl who is 80 pounds or 170 pounds. There are even men who find extremely big women attractive. Furthermore women only are pressured to look a certain way, men are pressured to look a certain way as well as be high achievers
Lady's men's eyes lie to them. what men find visually attractive they don't find attractive to the touch. It has been proven that men like a girl with meat on her bones in bed vs the skinny models you see in magazines and on t. v. Look the way that makes you feel happy.
Not sure if OP is taking the piss or was born yesterday. Even 20 years ago being a fatty McFat Fat was was off limits to ridicule. Are we seriously asking this in 2016?
I'm asking it in 2017 not 2016. And look at the polls
Womens opinions are irrelevant. They change based on what's beneficial to them. What does reality say? Reality is what's pictured in your post.
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Find me a mainstream media outlet engaging in anything but political correctness in regards to peoples sizes. i. e. "400lbs in still beautiful!"
I can find you a dozen articles of these same fat ass women STILL demanding a ripped dude without the slightest bit of self awareness.
The 'pressure' they're feeling is male biology telling them they're a risky bet as far as reproduction is concerned, *abort abort abort recalculating...* "19 year old with big tits, and a small waist spotted, destroy everything in path!
I feel like there should be more pressure on women, not to have "perfect bodies", but at least healthy bodies.
There's pressure, but I don't think it's any worse than what men experience. If anything I think men have it worse. That fat woman in the middle would have a lot more options for sex than an equally fat guy would.
@The-Three or any eating disorders for that matter, not just anorexia.
@The-Three
Men are considered unnattractive for being fat and for being skinny. The ideal for men is to appear tall and strong so there isn't as much pressure for men to strive to be super skinny.
@lumos
A higher percentage of women being diagnosed with eating disorders only means women seek help /are diagnosed more and not necessarily that women experience more anxiety over their appearance.
I linked to a study on that in my own answer. "Women are significantly more likely than men to report body checking and avoidance, binge eating, fasting, and vomiting"
Iām not trying to say that men donāt experience eating disorders. Just saying that even if you take underreporting into account, Iām pretty sure the vast majority of people who suffer from eating disorders and other mental health issues because of body image are women.
@lumos
Well, the sample of women who responded was more than double the sample size of men and on top of that the authors made a point to the say it was a small sample overall.
Their ending conclusion was: "These limitations notwithstanding, our study suggests that when taking into account effect size calculations, the gender differences in disordered eating -are less pronounced- than previous studies had assumed."
and if you look at the numbers they aren't THAT far off. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../?report=objectonly
What is considered attractive for men and women are different so they aren't going to necessarily exhibit insecurity over it in the same exact way. Being petite is considered attractive for women but unnattractive for men, so yeah women are probably more likely to admit to pinching their fat in the mirror, forcing themselves to vomit or using laxatives to get skinnier but that doesn't prove women are more insecure about their appearance.
Also, whether it be depression or insecurity men seem to be far more likely to keep things bottled up than women are. Being confident and in control of your emotions is often seen as being one of the biggest requirements for being a "real man" so men are going to be less likely to admit to feeling insecure in general, especially about their appearance. Take into consideration that eating disorders and obsessing over ones appearance are generally perceived as women's issues which can make men even more ashamed to own up to.
Yes. But the real pressure is the pressure we put on ourselves.
I know too many 8-12 year old girls who are already planning on getting plastic surgery and feeling like their body is a mistake.
THESE GIRLS ARE AS YOUNG AS 8 WANTING NOSE JOBS AND BREAST ENLARGEMENTS
YES THERE IS TOO MUCH PRESSURE
Yes, but it's pressure a lot of women put on THEMSELVES! And they compare themselves to other women which doesn't help this either. Yes it comes from guys sometimes too, but I think it's more self inflicted most of the time.
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