I'm probably a libertarian since I do not agree with leftist ideals but neither do I agree with the far right.
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Communism was never achieved, only Socialism and Stalinism. Communism is not slavery, it's equality, but as I said, unlike Fascism, we never had actual Communism, so claiming that it's like "slavery" is totally ignorant. Communism is stateless, moneyless and classless society. In Communist society everyone works according to their abilities and receives according to their needs. As you can see, it's an Utopian society. USSR was not a "communist country" because it's impossible to have a communist country - Communism is a stateless society. USSR means Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (not Communist republics). USSR had rubles as a currency - But Communism is moneyless society. In USSR, members of the so called "communist party" were privileged, but communism is a classless society - therefore, only extremely dumb people can say that USSR was a "communist country"... cause even their leaders never followed the ideals of Communism, they were acting more like Feudalists. Basically, Communism is like the future society from Star Trek - the world is united (there are no countries), everything is free (there is no money), people are working to improve themselves, not for the profit, and there are no classes.
"the world is united (there are no countries), everything is free (there is no money), people are working to improve themselves, not for the profit, and there are no classes"
I think the problem with communism is that basically it’s a dream that can never be achieved, because in order to start the process leading to communism you need to put all power in the hands of a central government which just leads to a dictatorship. I may be right wing, but I do hope that one day people work together not purely for profit, but I just don’t see that happening for a very long time because people seem to have a natural urge to get ahead of others and be the most successful and looked up to.
@BillyB4 Actually, the dictatorship part was idea made up by Marx, but his way is not the only way. Ancient Greek Pythagoreans and Persian Mazdak movement were among the first societies which started the ideas similar to communism. Modern communism started as an ideal by French philosopher Victor d'Hupay (18th century). He named the communism after the ancient Christian Communes. Basically, he was a Christian Communist, unlike Marx who was an Atheist. Even before him, English writer Thomas More (16th century) described some ideas slightly similar to communism, in his book Utopia (welfare state, no private property, no money). Rosa Luxemburg also had great ideas to achieve communism, unlike Marx, she wasn't rigid. Don't forget about the Soviet Mensheviks, they could have made things differently, but Bolsheviks stopped them (unfortunately). Finally, there was Trotsky, he could have prevented forming of Stalinism, but the historical circumstances were against him, after Lenin's death
Ah I remember reading about these other people in political science and you’re right, they do make communism seem more appealing and advocate a better implementation of it, but I think that realistically, communism is still doomed to fail. Let’s say society did become communist and everyone cooperated and put their money in a communal pot for the good of the people, and they were sincere and had good intentions. I think that someone would be bound to abuse that system and a dictatorship would emerge. I think George Orwell hit the nail on the head when explaining this in Animal Farm. I think that realistically, the furthest society could get is a capitalist society with a very generous welfare net.
@ThisDudeHere They break rules related to interfering in other (alien) societies, which is not related to economy... it's more related to diplomacy, but they never break them for no reason, only to save someone.
In my eyes whomever is the one to assume that others have I'll intent when literally nothing would have alluded to it are the ones with the bad intentions themselves.
There is a difference between being evasive because of guilt and being evasive because of general mistreatment and prejudice. We conservatives shield o ourselves from your pointless condescension, which you claim we ourselves demomstrate.
@Samual_Jennings well I am not entirely conservative as I do not want a return to old bogus values but neither do I agree with this overt "progressiveness".
I don't care much but I'm bit of both. I'm against immigration, against islam in general, for property rights, for a mandatory integration of anyone coming. I'm also against history shaming and changing, to fit the views of crybabies who can't get over it, and againt all those movements such as BLM and modern feminism. I'm for a meritocracy, where we reward those who work to get what they want, instead of trying to put everyone on the same level no matter how much effort they make, which in the end only lower the level as a whole. But also for giving to those in need but only to help them getting back on their feet, not just give them money without any counterpart. I also understand that you have to maintain a balance between workers and companies, you can favor one without harming the other.
That picture is actually incorrect, Conservatives are far more libertarian than liberals. You don’t see republicans wanting to limit our freedom of speech because it’s ‘’offensive’’ or trying to force people into financial dependency, or paying companies like facebook to shadowban users with an opinion they don’t like.
Right leaning, but in a traditionalist, paternalist sense. I believe that the better off members of society have an obligation to look after the less well off.
Libertarian socialist, but I do lean left. I just think the public sector should give people options in areas of life or death. The government shouldn't be making cars because innovation in the technologies is best fought over in the competitive market, where the profit motive makes sense, but you shouldn't totally apply the profit motive to something like healthcare. That's when poor people die, or middle class people become bankrupted. We shouldn't allow corporate welfare & I think a lot of regulations aren't for the publics safety but instead are designed to quash competition for big corporations. I think net neutrality is good as well, honestly I think the internet should be regulated as a public utility by this point. I wouldn't tolerate paying extra for individual websites by my provider. But the government should respect an individuals right to privacy, freedom of speech, & private property. I'm against communism & hate speech laws & the surveillance apparatus that can listen in on is without a warrant. The wars are just total bullshit, there are people who should be tried & punished that right now are exacting massive amounts of human suffering throughout the world through propaganda & monetary ties to the military industrial complex. I also think we should banish private prisons because there should never be a point where someones freedom becomes a liability to someones profits. That's how we get idiot judges taking bribes to lock up teenagers for years & prisons investing in the stupid fucking drug war.
Based on your little char thingy, I would be libertarian, this is also what my boyfriend who is libertarian, constantly shows me. I'd consider my self more liberal though. More environmental actually. so green party lol But I disagree with a lot of their overly feminist shit. So I don't know. I just want people to respect each other. I dont want guns or abortions or gay marriage banned. I want people to care for the environment and for it to be protected as well as animals. So whatever party that is, I am all for it.
I believe it has an error, though. It shows "tolerance for other's property rights" in blue, and liberals have no such position. In addition to using eminent domain for private gain, liberals are also the ones who try to force other people to use their real and personal property in the way they wish it to be used. Example: They won't let you develop a piece of land the way you want and they believe your money belongs to the government.
Another arguable error for liberals is "privacy". Aren't the people in charge of facebook and google liberals? They are the anti-privacy people.
From all the young people about your age I have talked to, most believe they are liberals or even Socialists. But when I ask those left-leaning people specific questions, they turn out to be libertarian, and far more aligned with the libertarian wing of the Republican party than with Democrats at all.
I am right leaning because I am libertarian at heart but am a pragmatist.
It would be nice to just embrace being a libertarian. Except for one fundamentalist difference I have with libertarians, I could totally be one. And I would quite enjoy it. :)
I can't be a libertarian because I believe that it can be moral a thing to preemptively strike against ones enemies.
So for that fundamental difference, I can't be libertarian.
But I also can't be libertarian because I am a pragmatist. I am a fixer. I solve problems by nature.
I wish I could be a libertarian but a libertarian is just theory... and that is not the real world.
I know, in theory, how the world should be. It would be nice to sit above the fray and dictate what should happen.
Since I am a realist with libertarian values, that makes me conservative. Most conservatives value fiscal responsibility and smaller government interference.
Hey man, I am sure you are a libertarian. But I see you’re a little confused on exactly what it is. I was a liberal, and am now a libertarian. The person who explained things to me that finally opened my eyes to the libertarian perspective was the man Peter Schiff on the Joe Rogan podcast. Dude, he will change your life lol. Awesome guy. Super cool, super smart. There’s also Tom woods and he has a radio show somewhere but it’s also uploaded on YouTube. You can watch one of his videos about libertarianism as he explains it just as well as Peter Schiff. Have fun!
I believe that at least in my country issues connected with infrastructure and bad financial situation are worse and more important than issues connected with social stuff. We were communist country and still have some more sociak focus on things but still have some fucked up financial problems from it and corrupted politics from that era. Also in general I see on the Internet what liberals do in the West like they were bored, the force overly political correct content, they want to sue people if they say wrong pronouns to them, they force people of colour or homosexual to all movies even when it is out of place and there is a censorship developing on the Internet. I believe that when you create overly social state it only creates a system for "Leaches" and ward working people will be the ones who would suffer from it
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That political spectrum image would be sacrilege in a social science faculty. Setting conservatism and liberalism (struggle between authority and freedom) along the same axis as left and right (which are defined in terms of whether inequalities are acceptable or not) is like watching a circle from a side and thinking it's a line.
In Britain, all parties have the same ultimate goal, to make money for politicians. I refuse to vote on the basis that there is nothing to benefit the country until the rulers are just paid basic expenses, and the parties actually fight for real issues. Democracy is not the perfect system that people think, because if the majority of the voting population are trying to protect their property, the poorer classes don't get a say.
Libertarian but left leaning, mostly because of the gun argument (I believe hunting rifles and other sports firearms can remain legal, although regulated, and everything else should be banned). On the other hand though I disagree with most liberal economic ideas so yeah, I guess I'm on the middle
I'm left leaning and pro gun and disagree with what you said. Growing up we had a.223 ruger ranch rifle which like the name implies was a archers go to rifle. However, this rifle holds a clip, is semi automatic and fires the same round an ar-15 does. Realistically they are very similar weapons. Both can be fired at the same rate, both can use over sized clips, the only difference is one was designed for combat modifications and the other is a standard "hunting" rifle. The point is if you ban ar-15s you have to ban all rifles.
Probably center right. I'm not sure why monarchy is considered a "right" leaning government. Monarchy is a type of government, it doesn't denote it's policies or political orientations. There are monarchies that are more left wing than republican governments.
I'm left wing. I believe in equal opportunity for everyone. Government is important to safeguard things like healthcare and education. You can't leave that to companies. The countries that are known for highest quality of life all are left leaning (compared to the USA). Scandinavia, northwest Europe, Canada, Australia and Japan.
I don't agree with the list you provided stating the differences between left and right.
Most countries rely on other nations for defence. There is nothing wrong with that, since all these countries are in the UN where they will get support. When you mention massive debt, you should realise the US has a massive debt as well. Sweden, Denmark and Iceland have big debts, but you can't say the same about western countries like Norway, Netherlands and Germany to name a few. You use debt as a flaw on one side, but you can't do that without acknowledging you have the sameflaw on yours. With the difference that life standards are much better in these leftist nations compared to the US.
Its more complicated then that. There are different type of migrants and they influence the economy in different ways. When it concerns migrants coming here for the right reasons I feel we as a wealthy nation have a responsibility to offer them a safe place. Sure you can't help everyone and sone migrants are pure economical, but I feel this place isn't suited for a an in depth analysis of that. The bottom line is that migration is complex and stating they just collect wellfare is a simplification that ignores many contradictive facts and nuances.
I’m a bit of both. My philosophy is, no one party has it right.. both parties working together can make for a fair and balanced government. But sadly in this day and age, starting with the Baby boomer and the Gen Xers generation. They don’t know how to work with each other anymore... soooo, we need to find a way to bring that back.
Not into politics, but I think being balanced is critical to every approach to life especially politically since one size doesn't fit all when it comes to politics and how it can affect millions.
So, I believe a decent fair share of conservative values mix in with liberal values politically can work great for a society.
I'm mostly left though to be honest it's only because so far the left side has been covering my issues. I can actually agree on both sides of the fence just it seems like politics is so polerized anymore.
I do have an interest in politics as an observer, but I don't necessarily care which side is more correct. In fact, I prefer to witness what the effects of an overwhelming majority on either side will have on society in general.
Lol... I like how under the rights umbrella there is "giving generously to help those in need" that's hilarious. Anyways, I definitely lean left and if I had to pick a label I'd say I'm something like a conservative Democrat.
I'm nothing. Humans are shit and therefore all governments will be shit. In an ideal world, any system would work. If I had to choose though, I would say that the way I view life in general aligns with libertarianism mostly. But again, I don't identify as belonging to any political group.
I'm libertarian. Ben Shapiro is awesome. Personally I view politics as two groups (Democrats and Republicans) that both see a problem and try to find a solution for it, the problem is that one sides solution the other views as an additive to the problem not a solution.
Right leaning; I don't want a government controlling me too much but enough to be functional, I want my compensation for what I work for, I don't want to work so others can sit on their butts.
Sorry, but it's inaccurate. Nazis actually learned how to be Nazis from Democrats and their KKK brethren. They just replaced African Americans with Jews.
I object! Nazism is NOT a rightist stance! If you look up the acronym in German, one of the letters stands for "socialist" in English. It's actually a far-leftist ideology. It is purposefully demeaning to rightists to be compared to the Nazi Regime.
Right wing. I don’t believe in big government because it interferes with individual liberty and I support some traditional values (like being pro-life), and I think the problem with the left is they’re naive.
@Ozzieguy Well I the reason I’m against abortion is because I think it’s morally wrong to kill an unborn child except in exceptional cases. I get it, it sounds contradictory, but people can’t have complete liberty unless there’d be tons of murder and stealing.
@BillyB4 I can see the logic behind your view point and i can't argue that it has validity to it. I personally believe it is wrong to bring a child into the world if the women doesn't want to be a parent or isn't ready.
@Ozzieguy it's not restricting a liberty - it's just common sense that it you don't want a certain consequence, don't engage in the activity that may result in it. Have some personal responsibility.
I think we can all agree that people are free to do what they want, but they should just be mindful that actions have consequences. I think that with all the hookups happening today young people aren’t being as careful as they should. Of course people should be free to have sex with others, but I just don’t think that they should then be allowed to kill an unborn child just because it’s inconvenient. They should get help with the pregnancy and birth and be treated with respect, but they shouldn’t be allowed to terminate a young life. That’s all I was trying to say when I first gave my opinion here.
Economically, I mostly align with left-libertarianism. Politically, I'm actually in favor of a stateless society, but I gravitate towards right-wing sentiments and I'm against most of government oversight involved in left-wing politics.
I'm not American, my views aren't easy to categorize since i agree with certain things from each side and disagree with others. I don't agree with much on the far right or left though besides gun control.
im not into usa politics but i would choose liberal by the way this map isn't accurate cuz separation of church and state is held by liberals i thijk libertarianism is the radical version of left and right
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I don't know why in the world fascism is lumped with being on the right. Antifa is on the left and they're the closest thing to fascism in the United States.
I love the alt-right and the reason for that is all the immigrants... they must all goooo! Illegal or legal, direct immigrant or descendant of an immigrant.
Well shit, I guess all current Americans need to move out. Then apologize to the Native Americans for stealing their homeland and massacring their people.
I hope you realize that the United States of America would not exist if it was not for immigration. When the Europeans came to colonize the Americas, they drove out the already existing people of the land and continued to use the resources for their own selfish desires.
🤔 Hmm if Europeans who were foreigners to the Natives, pushed their way in without asking the Natives permission on whether or not they could live in North America.. I’m not a history teacher or anything, but wouldn’t that make YOU an illegal descendant of an immigrant?
Telling legal immigrants that they have to go makes no sense. All our ancestors were immigrants when they came here. We all came from people immigrating unless you are native indian.
@jimyee Socialists being left wing have never changed. Anarchism has never been left/right wing. Fascism has been almost exclusively left wing but right wing fascists could theoretically exist and take hold of a country.
Look up Peter Schiff or Tom woods if you wanna know what a libertarian is. They explain it so well. Especially if you are left leaning I think you will finally feel at home. I’m new to it, and I’m so happy I discovered it.
There are millions of liberals out there. At most you have observed about a couple of thousand of them through the media and real life. The only reason why you see them more is because they are showcased.
I work with them, live around them, encounter them a lot. They are the majority of what a liberal is and so far I can't get along with one because of their insanity.
Not entirely. You see when you've encountered a certain group of people so many times and they're all the same, that tells you about that group. It's just how they are. The majority of liberals are just crazy. There could be a tiny bit that aren't but I doubt it. They seem to lack common sense.
I just lack the energy for the whole left vs right thing. Its pointless and dumb. I see both sides make reasonable and unreasonable choices. You are over simplyfiying a complex problem. Its not about right or left anymore its about doing whats best.
Yea i know i would be toasted under the 1940 Nazis. I just picked that one because there wasn't a Nacionalizm where Nazi was and since they were big on that i just typed that.
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