My first thought was: there will be literally a river of hate flowing from the women. That feel when you are right but have to sigh, twisting your head.
The question was: "what are your honest thoughts on mgtow", not "what you think about people that tell that they are mgtow". It's tragic that people can't read these days. Or worse - they can read but don't understand what they read.
All those women who have no idea about the whole thing, please just watch the "Red Pill" movie. We, men, have to bear all that extremist feminist ideology and we can relate to it, have an idea what it is and comment on it. Most of you, I believe, have absolutely, completely no idea what it is, so you're spitting venom in those comments, patting yourselves on shoulder, because women solidarity.
"I have no idea about the topic of the discussion, and I am too young to have any experience, but I will throw in my 2 cents" should be considered main theme in cases like this one.
It's easy to see men as having all the "privileges" from the female perspective, but to be fair, life has sucked for all of us, for different reasons, forever. Men have real problems that women keep being told about, but instead of seeing their own complicity in those problems, they put the blame back on men.
MGTOW's are jaded, typically due to mistreatment by one or females who had a powerful negative impact on their lives. It's not they are misogynists - rather, they might have something more like gynophobia.
I'm not a MGTOW, but I can understand why they exist. I've never beaten or cheated on any woman I've ever been with. I HAVE been cheated on, hit, spit on and lied about by TONS of women. Let us never forget that as humans, women are every bit as capable of evil as are men.
Immature assholes. Mist young guys are because they are like little kids who whine bitch and moan because they can't get women in the way these guys want to get them which means with little effort. Women don't like that and prefer to be respected and have a guy earn his way into her bed. So, women dump them or don't bother with them. Then, these immature guys blame the women instead of looking in the mirror and realizing I need to grow the fuck up.
So, these guys think they are taking the high road by becoming MGTOWs when, in reality, they are pouty kids in adult male bodies.
Frankly, I love MGTOWs. Why? 1. By taking themselves out of the dating pool, they are leaving the women for the actual mature guys. 2. The MGTOWs are examples of evolution in action. By refusing to put in the effort necessary to reproduce, their defective genes don't continue to pollute our gene pool. Thus, our species improves.
@SirRexington In the bedroom is one thing. Outside the bedroom is something else. Women may like dominant men ir have raoe fantasues, but they still don't want to be treated as worthless and that who they are as persons is not important to a guy. Take a look at all the "Are all guys just into sex only?" questions from womwn at this site. Women don't like guys who seem like that.
I totally understand why men would go MGTOW. Women are so fucking entitled these days, they expect everything to be done for them because they have a pussy and the ones that don't act like mean ass bitches and think its "being independent". Not to mention how selfish women really are, they want everything from men but don't want men to want anything in return... how that work? Women be like "men don't act like gentlemen" "what happened to chilvary" Bitch what do you think happened? Women started acting different, so men did too. You ain't getting what you don't deserve!
Its fucking stupid. I mean how can a man not want a relationship with a woman unless he is gay or asexual?
To your "karma of life" statement i domewhat disagree, because although men did oppress women before in the past, men in the present cannot be blamed for whatever women suffered at the hands of our forefathers. We had nothing to do with it because we didn't exist yet. So by this reasoning i would say that there's no reason for being "unfair or unjust" to men in the present just because of how women were treated in the past.
But srsly these MGTOW people are downright idiotic. They make less sense than a drunk person. At least a drunk person blurts the truth. I don't know about mgtows tho.
like i get that they may have been hirt from previous relatonships but whats to say women dont get hurt either? And a few women being bitches doesn't mean all women are bitches. There are genuinely good women out there waiting to date.
MGTOW is not any of these things at all what you've all desribed.
Basically the movement is about responsible men who have done the right things and relationships would have been screwed that have decided to give all chivalry and paying for dinner and allowing their partner to move into their house and other things like that a hiatus. also another thing is public marriage they don't like any of that because of the legal implications. Basically men are ditching their customary role in society to do what's good for themselves. It's ironic because there are women out there, and plenty of them, who claim their independent, but will mooch off some guy using those old customs as the means. So basically they are users and I know many who have fallen to this.
I don't believe you've actually met any men who practice MGTOW principles. Aside from completely erroneously characterizing the entire philosophy, you'd never be able to to come to that conclusion in person, because MGTOW men don't waste our time with ignorant, mean-spirited women like you. You might be able to get a feel for it by following a few blogs and websites, but I suspect you're not really interested in that. Clearly, facts aren't in your wheelhouse. Like almost all people who share your vitriol for intelligent, open-minded and independent men, you've chosen ignorance and doubled down on it with passion. Don't worry. MGTOW isn't for you, or against you. It has literally nothing to do with you. I suspect that's the true source of your inflammation. We don't need you. We don't want you. We don't care at all that you don't want us, or why. We've got our own things now. You enjoy your things and we'll enjoy ours!
I gave my opinion on it and how I have based my thoughts on what I’ve both read and heard.
I said I could be wrong. I don’t have a problem with MGTOW because it in no way affects me or my life, aside from the occasional jerks I meet in passing.
If you would have read thoroughly with an unbiased perspective, you would have gotten the message.
I think your description of MGTOW is a little unfair. I mean yeah they are bitter but to making it out that they are bitter because they can't subjugate women, they're bitter because they have had everything taken away that matters to them. And instead of having a normal discussion on it they get told to suck it up and that it's their own fault so it's obvious that some are going to go to fringe groups like them.
They also believe that women/feminism are lying when they say they want equality and are actually after supremacy, which you kinda gave ammo for there.
As for men being judges and the like, that doesn't matter. You admit that there's a bias towards women in court, so that's the issue. Just because some men came up with something doesn't mean that it's good for all.
Given this opinion I highly doubt it's always unprovoked.
I know it was in your OP. I'm telling you you're as wrong as those people who claim that all feminists are ugly man hating lesbians with a chip on their shoulder who are just out to get men.
I think MGTOW, from my understanding, is a bunch of weak ass men giving excuses to continue their weakness.
Men have never NOT been on top. We lead the families, we make the major decisions. Every woman I know wants a man to be like that.
These weak cucks want to have someone else run their life so they can stay home and play video games all day, probably in their momma's basement.
Bitch, I play video games too, in my home, next to my girl. I put in work and take care of my responsibilities, as a man should and I get to have the fun I want, like a man should.
These false men complain women run everything. If they do, you allowed them too. They need to act like they got some balls.
"I’ve encountered both online and in real life have been complete jerks towards me, UNPROVOKED." that is due to "Men were kings but now it’s the women’s turn." so welcome to the top. Doesn't the old saying go "it is lonely at the top"? When you are on top "life is a bitch, and then you die." That is another old saying. I guess you just have to learn to eat more shit when you are on top of the heap.
Same girl, same. They just seem like grumpy ass, bitchy old men who are bitter about divorce or not being able to find a girl to date so they've let it fester to the point that they've grown to hate all women. And so they're going to be on their own. Away from women. Only, they ain't gone nowhere! Ay dios mio!!! Drives me loca the shit I see. I once asked what the purpose of the group was and some dude went OFF on me. Told me that I was the purpose. Girls like me who pretend to not know how hard it was for guys in the world like him and yada ya. So yeah, I know exactly what you mean mami. MGTOW more like MGTFC!
Most are men who have been badly hurt by women or are just butthurt young men who have trouble getting women due to their social anxiety problems and maybe lack of hygiene.
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I think a lot of them have been hurt, and think that the woman who hurt them is representative of women as a whole.
I understand the part about not wanting to date. I’ve refrained from dating for personal reasons. What I don’t understand is trying to make a movement out of it.
If they’re really trying to move on, then they can do that on their own. They don’t need to recruit a bunch of other men and broadcast their lifestyle to the world. Doing that makes it seem like they’re trying to send a message. But to who? Because again, they say they’ve moved on women. If that were the case, they wouldn’t feel the need to show us.
It’s already common knowledge that if relationships make you unhappy, it’s a good idea to take a break. There’s no need to put a title on it.
From what I’ve seen on their YouTube channels, they talk less about the benefits of being single than they do about why they think women are only interested in men for their resources.
It’s almost comedic that these men will sit there and listen to another man attempt to psychoanalyze the entire female gender, of which he is not a part. If they wanted real answers about female behavior, they could just ask women. This indicates that again, they don’t want actual answers. They want someone to pat them on the back and tell them that it’s not their fault.
Conclusion, they join the movement because they’re hurt, and angry.
I lived my life, minding my own business, wasn't looking for dates or a s. o until I was 25, but with media pushing the idea of love and being with a s. o. I felt left out. Hearing from MGTOW, that love isn't necessary for a happy life, that pushed me somewhat back on track again, it reminds one that one can be happy on their own.
I'm not MGTOW, I still hope to find someone, and am dating now, but I'm supportive of them and their message to be happy on your own, that a romantic relationship isn't necessary, isn't mandatory for happiness.
I've seen YouTube channels as well, and sadly, the vast majority is just hating, and don't have valid reasoning. It's like washing gold, you have to go through a lot of dirt, until you find a small piece of gold. That's not good, and I need to agree with you on that one. I wouldn't call it "almost comedic", I think it's just sad that it came to this.
About answers, an introspection is worth a lot, and women do write them, but an outrospection is worth just as much, as people can't ever see themselves fully as they really are.
Have you never hated on someone, maligned them with a group of girls just because you got hurt, dumped, rejected or whatever even knowing it's not entirely true what you say? Many guys don't do this in a group, and it's like a tabu (which isn't good as well) to admit that you got hurt as a guy, so guys can't go cry to their group about this. A video telling you these things is kind of a substitute for it.
I’m not saying that they don’t have reasons to be hurt. I’m simply saying that there’s no need to make a movement out of it. And if they’re going to, they should at least reach a consensus among themselves about what they stand for. Thus far that haven’t, so I don’t consider them a legitimate movement.
I only knew one guy who claimed to be part of the MGTOW movement. To hear him talk, he didn't necessarily have anything against women, but he didn't chase them. To him, dating was down near the bottom of his priority list. He wasn't a PUA. He felt that the other pursuits in his life (physical fitness, his career, reading/ self education) were far better uses of his time. He would at times talk about aspects of the system being skewed to favor women, but I never heard him disparage women as a whole, only the system itself or specific individuals he had a problem with. I wonder if he was representative of a silent majority of mgtow or if he was an exception.
This is the majority. Most don’t hate women, they are just highly cautious about getting into a relationship because of statistics and how the rules are a little skewed.
Oh I've met a girl who is like that (wants a rich husband and several hung lovers) my first girlfriend. I've been a MGTOW for a year. But then I read this on Facebook "Women say all men are pigs. Men say all women are whores. If we organise we can all get laid" And that made me realise that each and everyone has his own problems and is nobody's. So just have fun with your life. I think nobody stays MGTOW forever. Sooner or later he understands that a woman is just a person, exactly like him. And that should happen to nazifeminists too. At least I hope it does
I understand and sympathise with them, however the proper way to do this is to play the system and not hide from it, hide your finances in offshore trusts and as stocks that you can liquidate quickly.
As for children? Well I know most mothers are spiteful towards their ex husband's and the court reward that so that's hard to fight.
Personally id suggest home security for peace of both your minds, the wife can know if the guy is cheating and vice versa.
Also if your wife shows sign of promiscuity during your marriage. Which is what causes most men to go MGTOW, don't react immediately, build up evidence, that will help you get custody.
And women have always been in power, half the powerful men in history have had a women whispering in their ear. As is still the case.
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So, men were kings in the past and now it's women's turn to rule? How feminist of you. So that's what you feminists mean when you speak of "equality"... men oppressed women in the past so now women should oppress men? Nice. Any feminist who honestly wonders why everyone says feminism isn't about equality is a fool.
Supporting feminism but not MGTOW is as hypocritical as it gets. MGTOW is just the mirror image of feminism. Both movements are toxic and everyone will be better off when both disappear. But MGTOW is nothing more than a reaction to feminism and will disappear the moment feminism does, and not before. It's a growing movement and as much as you feminists lament it, it's not going away until your own hateful ideology does.
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By the way, in case anyone still has any doubts about what has essentially been a well-known fact to most here at GAG, the post here from our blue canine friend should remove any doubt that he is really a she. She is one of several females I'm aware of with blue GAG accounts.
So I've been seeing this acronym a lot lately, and this question has prompted me to look up the meaning, and... interesting... I dont understand this notion that men are expected to be utilized as "a disposable utility"... seems like angry men creating a circle jerk for their egos to me.
MGTOW came about as a result of men losing most of what they work for in a marriage so unless you go though it you will never understand. When a woman cheats on you, then asks for a divorce and then is awarded the house, the cars and other assets you worked and paid for you have a right to be angry. I know because I went through it. The problem with MGTOW is (like most movements out there) it is full of extremists which gives the other guys a bad name.
Women may get more benefits from divorce but guess who makes up the majority of judges? MEN. Guys do have a right to be angry however they are directing that anger towards the wrong group of people.
Oh I agree. They spend too much time whining about women when they should looking at changing the system that created this unfair mess. No much point in whining about women because they won't change.
@JustWorthlessMe People on here that have never been married, never worked their balls off paying off a house, cars and everything else and then lost it all in a divorce to a woman who stayed at home the entire marriage will never understand.
@goaded Well I pay a $1,000 a month in child support even though the kid lives on nothing but mac and cheese and cereal each month. As much as that is a rip-off I can live with that. Losing my house, everything in the house and 2 cars, all of which I worked and paid for is what really bites.
I am not a MGTOW person though as I think these movements achieve nothing.
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My first thought was: there will be literally a river of hate flowing from the women. That feel when you are right but have to sigh, twisting your head.
The question was: "what are your honest thoughts on mgtow", not "what you think about people that tell that they are mgtow". It's tragic that people can't read these days. Or worse - they can read but don't understand what they read.
All those women who have no idea about the whole thing, please just watch the "Red Pill" movie. We, men, have to bear all that extremist feminist ideology and we can relate to it, have an idea what it is and comment on it. Most of you, I believe, have absolutely, completely no idea what it is, so you're spitting venom in those comments, patting yourselves on shoulder, because women solidarity.
"I have no idea about the topic of the discussion, and I am too young to have any experience, but I will throw in my 2 cents" should be considered main theme in cases like this one.
It's easy to see men as having all the "privileges" from the female perspective, but to be fair, life has sucked for all of us, for different reasons, forever. Men have real problems that women keep being told about, but instead of seeing their own complicity in those problems, they put the blame back on men.
MGTOW's are jaded, typically due to mistreatment by one or females who had a powerful negative impact on their lives. It's not they are misogynists - rather, they might have something more like gynophobia.
I'm not a MGTOW, but I can understand why they exist. I've never beaten or cheated on any woman I've ever been with. I HAVE been cheated on, hit, spit on and lied about by TONS of women. Let us never forget that as humans, women are every bit as capable of evil as are men.
By the way, I'm happily married :)
Immature assholes.
Mist young guys are because they are like little kids who whine bitch and moan because they can't get women in the way these guys want to get them which means with little effort. Women don't like that and prefer to be respected and have a guy earn his way into her bed. So, women dump them or don't bother with them. Then, these immature guys blame the women instead of looking in the mirror and realizing I need to grow the fuck up.
So, these guys think they are taking the high road by becoming MGTOWs when, in reality, they are pouty kids in adult male bodies.
Frankly, I love MGTOWs. Why?
1. By taking themselves out of the dating pool, they are leaving the women for the actual mature guys.
2. The MGTOWs are examples of evolution in action. By refusing to put in the effort necessary to reproduce, their defective genes don't continue to pollute our gene pool. Thus, our species improves.
I can't say I agree with your stance on what women want nowadays, it seems to be quite the opposite.
@SirRexington In the bedroom is one thing. Outside the bedroom is something else. Women may like dominant men ir have raoe fantasues, but they still don't want to be treated as worthless and that who they are as persons is not important to a guy. Take a look at all the "Are all guys just into sex only?" questions from womwn at this site. Women don't like guys who seem like that.
I totally understand why men would go MGTOW. Women are so fucking entitled these days, they expect everything to be done for them because they have a pussy and the ones that don't act like mean ass bitches and think its "being independent". Not to mention how selfish women really are, they want everything from men but don't want men to want anything in return... how that work? Women be like "men don't act like gentlemen" "what happened to chilvary" Bitch what do you think happened? Women started acting different, so men did too. You ain't getting what you don't deserve!
Its fucking stupid. I mean how can a man not want a relationship with a woman unless he is gay or asexual?
To your "karma of life" statement i domewhat disagree, because although men did oppress women before in the past, men in the present cannot be blamed for whatever women suffered at the hands of our forefathers. We had nothing to do with it because we didn't exist yet. So by this reasoning i would say that there's no reason for being "unfair or unjust" to men in the present just because of how women were treated in the past.
But srsly these MGTOW people are downright idiotic. They make less sense than a drunk person. At least a drunk person blurts the truth. I don't know about mgtows tho.
like i get that they may have been hirt from previous relatonships but whats to say women dont get hurt either? And a few women being bitches doesn't mean all women are bitches. There are genuinely good women out there waiting to date.
MGTOW is not any of these things at all what you've all desribed.
Basically the movement is about responsible men who have done the right things and relationships would have been screwed that have decided to give all chivalry and paying for dinner and allowing their partner to move into their house and other things like that a hiatus. also another thing is public marriage they don't like any of that because of the legal implications. Basically men are ditching their customary role in society to do what's good for themselves. It's ironic because there are women out there, and plenty of them, who claim their independent, but will mooch off some guy using those old customs as the means. So basically they are users and I know many who have fallen to this.
I don't believe you've actually met any men who practice MGTOW principles. Aside from completely erroneously characterizing the entire philosophy, you'd never be able to to come to that conclusion in person, because MGTOW men don't waste our time with ignorant, mean-spirited women like you. You might be able to get a feel for it by following a few blogs and websites, but I suspect you're not really interested in that. Clearly, facts aren't in your wheelhouse. Like almost all people who share your vitriol for intelligent, open-minded and independent men, you've chosen ignorance and doubled down on it with passion.
Don't worry. MGTOW isn't for you, or against you. It has literally nothing to do with you. I suspect that's the true source of your inflammation. We don't need you. We don't want you. We don't care at all that you don't want us, or why. We've got our own things now. You enjoy your things and we'll enjoy ours!
I gave my opinion on it and how I have based my thoughts on what I’ve both read and heard.
I said I could be wrong.
I don’t have a problem with MGTOW because it in no way affects me or my life, aside from the occasional jerks I meet in passing.
If you would have read thoroughly with an unbiased perspective, you would have gotten the message.
I think your description of MGTOW is a little unfair. I mean yeah they are bitter but to making it out that they are bitter because they can't subjugate women, they're bitter because they have had everything taken away that matters to them. And instead of having a normal discussion on it they get told to suck it up and that it's their own fault so it's obvious that some are going to go to fringe groups like them.
They also believe that women/feminism are lying when they say they want equality and are actually after supremacy, which you kinda gave ammo for there.
As for men being judges and the like, that doesn't matter. You admit that there's a bias towards women in court, so that's the issue. Just because some men came up with something doesn't mean that it's good for all.
Given this opinion I highly doubt it's always unprovoked.
Dude I said this is my opinion based off experience only and that I could be wrong
I know it was in your OP. I'm telling you you're as wrong as those people who claim that all feminists are ugly man hating lesbians with a chip on their shoulder who are just out to get men.
I mean what did you expect people to answer with?
He didn't attack you personally @asker i think this is a fair critique of the point you made in your description
I think MGTOW, from my understanding, is a bunch of weak ass men giving excuses to continue their weakness.
Men have never NOT been on top. We lead the families, we make the major decisions. Every woman I know wants a man to be like that.
These weak cucks want to have someone else run their life so they can stay home and play video games all day, probably in their momma's basement.
Bitch, I play video games too, in my home, next to my girl. I put in work and take care of my responsibilities, as a man should and I get to have the fun I want, like a man should.
These false men complain women run everything. If they do, you allowed them too.
They need to act like they got some balls.
"I’ve encountered both online and in real life have been complete jerks towards me, UNPROVOKED." that is due to "Men were kings but now it’s the women’s turn." so welcome to the top. Doesn't the old saying go "it is lonely at the top"? When you are on top "life is a bitch, and then you die." That is another old saying. I guess you just have to learn to eat more shit when you are on top of the heap.
Same girl, same. They just seem like grumpy ass, bitchy old men who are bitter about divorce or not being able to find a girl to date so they've let it fester to the point that they've grown to hate all women. And so they're going to be on their own. Away from women. Only, they ain't gone nowhere! Ay dios mio!!! Drives me loca the shit I see. I once asked what the purpose of the group was and some dude went OFF on me. Told me that I was the purpose. Girls like me who pretend to not know how hard it was for guys in the world like him and yada ya. So yeah, I know exactly what you mean mami. MGTOW more like MGTFC!
I'll take mho 🤷🏽♀️
They don't seem to be "going", i wish they would just go and stop telling us about it.
Most are men who have been badly hurt by women or are just butthurt young men who have trouble getting women due to their social anxiety problems and maybe lack of hygiene.
I think a lot of them have been hurt, and think that the woman who hurt them is representative of women as a whole.
I understand the part about not wanting to date. I’ve refrained from dating for personal reasons. What I don’t understand is trying to make a movement out of it.
If they’re really trying to move on, then they can do that on their own. They don’t need to recruit a bunch of other men and broadcast their lifestyle to the world. Doing that makes it seem like they’re trying to send a message. But to who? Because again, they say they’ve moved on women. If that were the case, they wouldn’t feel the need to show us.
Why not telling others about it, if those others can be happier that way too?
It’s already common knowledge that if relationships make you unhappy, it’s a good idea to take a break. There’s no need to put a title on it.
From what I’ve seen on their YouTube channels, they talk less about the benefits of being single than they do about why they think women are only interested in men for their resources.
It’s almost comedic that these men will sit there and listen to another man attempt to psychoanalyze the entire female gender, of which he is not a part. If they wanted real answers about female behavior, they could just ask women. This indicates that again, they don’t want actual answers. They want someone to pat them on the back and tell them that it’s not their fault.
Conclusion, they join the movement because they’re hurt, and angry.
I lived my life, minding my own business, wasn't looking for dates or a s. o until I was 25, but with media pushing the idea of love and being with a s. o. I felt left out. Hearing from MGTOW, that love isn't necessary for a happy life, that pushed me somewhat back on track again, it reminds one that one can be happy on their own.
I'm not MGTOW, I still hope to find someone, and am dating now, but I'm supportive of them and their message to be happy on your own, that a romantic relationship isn't necessary, isn't mandatory for happiness.
I've seen YouTube channels as well, and sadly, the vast majority is just hating, and don't have valid reasoning. It's like washing gold, you have to go through a lot of dirt, until you find a small piece of gold. That's not good, and I need to agree with you on that one. I wouldn't call it "almost comedic", I think it's just sad that it came to this.
About answers, an introspection is worth a lot, and women do write them, but an outrospection is worth just as much, as people can't ever see themselves fully as they really are.
Have you never hated on someone, maligned them with a group of girls just because you got hurt, dumped, rejected or whatever even knowing it's not entirely true what you say?
Many guys don't do this in a group, and it's like a tabu (which isn't good as well) to admit that you got hurt as a guy, so guys can't go cry to their group about this. A video telling you these things is kind of a substitute for it.
I’m not saying that they don’t have reasons to be hurt. I’m simply saying that there’s no need to make a movement out of it. And if they’re going to, they should at least reach a consensus among themselves about what they stand for. Thus far that haven’t, so I don’t consider them a legitimate movement.
While I don't like the people I do agree with some of their ideas.
Women don't run everything. Just everything when it comes to relationships.
And I don't know what you mean about karma of life and it's women's turn. Cause you're making it sound like women now deserve all the power.
I mean this has nothing to do with karma I think it's more of an evolution of society. And now people in the USA all share the same equal rights.
Well back to my point I personally don't like the people that claim to be mgtow. Cause some of them seem to be anti women and contradict themselves.
If you are truly going your own way I don't think you should have to label yourself and talk so much about the thing you're trying to avoid.
I only knew one guy who claimed to be part of the MGTOW movement.
To hear him talk, he didn't necessarily have anything against women, but he didn't chase them. To him, dating was down near the bottom of his priority list. He wasn't a PUA. He felt that the other pursuits in his life (physical fitness, his career, reading/ self education) were far better uses of his time.
He would at times talk about aspects of the system being skewed to favor women, but I never heard him disparage women as a whole, only the system itself or specific individuals he had a problem with.
I wonder if he was representative of a silent majority of mgtow or if he was an exception.
This is the majority. Most don’t hate women, they are just highly cautious about getting into a relationship because of statistics and how the rules are a little skewed.
That's good to know.
oh yes he is definitely the majority
Oh I've met a girl who is like that (wants a rich husband and several hung lovers) my first girlfriend.
I've been a MGTOW for a year. But then I read this on Facebook
"Women say all men are pigs. Men say all women are whores. If we organise we can all get laid"
And that made me realise that each and everyone has his own problems and is nobody's. So just have fun with your life.
I think nobody stays MGTOW forever. Sooner or later he understands that a woman is just a person, exactly like him.
And that should happen to nazifeminists too. At least I hope it does
I understand and sympathise with them, however the proper way to do this is to play the system and not hide from it, hide your finances in offshore trusts and as stocks that you can liquidate quickly.
As for children? Well I know most mothers are spiteful towards their ex husband's and the court reward that so that's hard to fight.
Personally id suggest home security for peace of both your minds, the wife can know if the guy is cheating and vice versa.
Also if your wife shows sign of promiscuity during your marriage. Which is what causes most men to go MGTOW, don't react immediately, build up evidence, that will help you get custody.
And women have always been in power, half the powerful men in history have had a women whispering in their ear. As is still the case.
So, men were kings in the past and now it's women's turn to rule? How feminist of you. So that's what you feminists mean when you speak of "equality"... men oppressed women in the past so now women should oppress men? Nice. Any feminist who honestly wonders why everyone says feminism isn't about equality is a fool.
Supporting feminism but not MGTOW is as hypocritical as it gets. MGTOW is just the mirror image of feminism. Both movements are toxic and everyone will be better off when both disappear. But MGTOW is nothing more than a reaction to feminism and will disappear the moment feminism does, and not before. It's a growing movement and as much as you feminists lament it, it's not going away until your own hateful ideology does.
By the way, in case anyone still has any doubts about what has essentially been a well-known fact to most here at GAG, the post here from our blue canine friend should remove any doubt that he is really a she. She is one of several females I'm aware of with blue GAG accounts.
I would like MHO.
So I've been seeing this acronym a lot lately, and this question has prompted me to look up the meaning, and... interesting... I dont understand this notion that men are expected to be utilized as "a disposable utility"... seems like angry men creating a circle jerk for their egos to me.
MGTOW came about as a result of men losing most of what they work for in a marriage so unless you go though it you will never understand. When a woman cheats on you, then asks for a divorce and then is awarded the house, the cars and other assets you worked and paid for you have a right to be angry. I know because I went through it. The problem with MGTOW is (like most movements out there) it is full of extremists which gives the other guys a bad name.
Women may get more benefits from divorce but guess who makes up the majority of judges? MEN. Guys do have a right to be angry however they are directing that anger towards the wrong group of people.
Oh I agree. They spend too much time whining about women when they should looking at changing the system that created this unfair mess. No much point in whining about women because they won't change.
I'd rather pay for her funeral than alimony lol
@JustWorthlessMe That's not funny.
@goaded It's just a joke, breathe
@JustWorthlessMe My wife's aunt was shot by her husband. Trust me, it's not funny.
@JustWorthlessMe People on here that have never been married, never worked their balls off paying off a house, cars and everything else and then lost it all in a divorce to a woman who stayed at home the entire marriage will never understand.
You don't mention children?
@goaded Well I pay a $1,000 a month in child support even though the kid lives on nothing but mac and cheese and cereal each month. As much as that is a rip-off I can live with that. Losing my house, everything in the house and 2 cars, all of which I worked and paid for is what really bites.
I am not a MGTOW person though as I think these movements achieve nothing.
Aren't there education costs, as well as food?
@goaded The child support is supposed to help with all of that.
yup this guy has it right