Promoting an unhealthy weight as being normal is not a good thing, be it overweight or underweight.
Women should just focus on living healthy instead of starving themselves or eating excessive amounts of food, as one other user mentioned, extremes are never good.
The people giving their opinions here are the EXACT reason a body positivity movement is necessary. If y'all assholes quit with the double standards on accepting anorexically skinny models but not overweight models, then maybe we could actually start talking about healthy eating. As it is, we have to FIRST get people to understand that not being skinny is not inherently bad, and maybe then we can actually talk about encouraging healthy eating.
I don't think Tess Holliday is all that interested in "encouraging healthy eating" though, if anything she's gotten more obese since she first became known as a "plus size" model. I've leveled the same criticism against anorexic "standards" for runway models many times before. There's no double standard. Most red-blooded males do NOT encourage anorexically skinny women to remain anorexic. The fashion industry does that all by itself. And who finances the fashion industry? WOMEN. I can count on one hand the times I've seen a man pick up a fashion magazine off a newsstand, yet women consume that industry's output in the millions, every day. Maybe look at women's consumer habits that enable this toxic industry, rather than putting the blame at the feet of men who HONESTLY COULD CARE LESS about whether some runway model shows her ribcage or not.
Body positivity was never about fat blobs being accepted. It was about people with physical abnormality, such as missing limbs, skin problems, scars, etc... accepting something they couldn't change and live with it. Being a huge fat shit isn't part of body positivity, she's just a lazy whale pretending it's body positivity because she refuses to do what it takes to lose weight.
People don't shame underweight women to nearly the degree they shame overweight women. And like, NEWSFLASH, eating habits aren't correlated to weight to nearly the degree some of y'all indicate they are, and they're certainly not correlated to health to that extent. All that calling fat people "gross" or "lazy" does is a. harm their mental health, and b. force us to create campaigns that focus on countering that kind of hate, rather than ones that actually talk about how to eat healthy (without equating weight with health).
Also, I REALLY don't care who's consuming what. I don't give a shit about responsibility, I give a shit about people being happy and healthy. I don't care if a group if somehow causing themselves to suffer, or suffering out of free choice, I only care that they don't suffer. Free will is fake, the only thing that actually matters in the end is that suffering should be reduced in whatever ways possible.
@Babygirl_S Severely underweight is sometimes shamed/recognized as bad. But there's still a lot of focus on having a flat stomach, and women who are even slightly overweight (or just not skinny enough to conform to the supposed ideal) are targeted with a lot more shame than women who are slightly on the skinny side.
@Babygirl_S Where are you from? And while I'm not sure that's ideal really, it's at least not hypocritical. I think my ideal would be not criticizing people for their bodies (harming mental health to maybe improve physical health) but just focusing on healthy habits and nicely encouraging people to be healthy if they seem like they're living an unhealthy lifestyle
Let her be her. It's not hurting anyone and it certainly isn't a personal attack on anyone. Everyone gains and loses weight throughout their life and some are more prone to weight gain whether they want it or not. Even if they're trying to get rid of it, don't you think they deserve a little representation? Just because they're not where you and society want them to be weight wise doesn't make them any less a person.
This isn't about what we and society feel is "sexc or acceptable". It's about what is healthy and she is clearly not. Being proud to be morbidly obese is not something that should be accepted or promoted.
I dont treat fat people any less but to idolize them for doing what we all gotta do anyways : being courageous.. trying new things.. going for what you want and need.. Lets toss in health!
I feel that, when he said she is a statement model, well that's poor. There are so many things in life and to be popular for standing up for your size instead of doing something to change yourself for a better version of you? That would be the goal. Learn how to walk the run way, don't shake your boobs at the cameras and stand up straight. Go you for being brave but walk for the right reasons.
*Walk for the people that can't lose weight via health issues or genetics.
*Walk because you are being PAID good money for your image.
*Walk because every step you take a back donates money to a charitable cause.
I wish there would be more average sized women on the runway, not so many super skinny and super fat chicks. I don't think either extreme is good. Why can't normal be beautiful? Why does fat get to be beautiful but not normal? I feel like I'm not represented, and I think a lot of other women feel the same way.
People her size need help more than acceptance. It's great to love your body, but if you love it, don't abuse it. Encouraging obesity isn't a good message to send. Also she would never be famous if she didn't have a "skinny face" for her size.
She's posted those on her instagram already and said," this is me unphotoshopped ". Its not like she "ask" to be photoshopped. Tyra is photoshopped to.. to each it's own but I love Ashley's confidence. I really liked her when I seen her on steve Harvey show. she's so down to earth
I don't care about her confidence and I just don't like her vibe. I've met her in person and she is just average. Not aspirational or stunning like Romee Strijd or Candace Swanepoel or Adriana Lima. Even Chiara Ferragni and negin mirsalehi are better. AG is only popular in us due to obesity rates it's a joke.
Trashy and gross. I hate tess holliday I think she stands for the wrong reasons and loves the attention. I’m not the thinnest person ever and I’m not perfect, but to promote obesity to the extent she does is horrendous
I think she's more suited to catalog/Instagram modeling. The point of runway is to show off clothes, and I think she's a bit short to do that well. Don't get me wrong, she's a gorgeous woman, but not suited for runways. From what I've heard she has a terrible personality, so it makes me sad that she is being rewarded, but that's just how life is I guess.
I don't see what her sexuality has to do with any of this... Good for her.
Let them keep doing it. They're digging their own hole. In other countries they laugh at the USA for this type of shit. Rich men are going to Europe, Latin America (brazil especially) and Asia to get thinner gorgeous women. In Europe they're starting to reject American models like CRAZY out of fear this dumb shit will become popular out there.
@UncleJessieRabbit To a point. Remember the more you say something is bad, the more women do it and the more they enjoy it. Let them parade around their fat asses, develop diabetes and realize no one is wathcing and no one cares - it will hit them like a ton of bricks.
How did they reinforce that walkway... they would need to use steel I-beams and concrete!
FAT disgusting war pigs are not "Sexy" no matter how much they try and force it down our throats.
Tess Holliday is morbidly obese and should NOT be a role model for nieve female children. I am not surprised a member of the social justice mental illness came out as "madeup"sexual. They need to get as many attention cards as they can because otherwise, they would be no one.
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I don’t really think much about it. I don’t really think much about any model walking the run way. I think she’s beautiful, but that’s the whole point of being a model so that’s not particularly amazing. It’s nice to see that they’re being inclusive to bigger body shapes I guess.
Love yourself but don't love being fat. Go on a damn diet and you'll be able to love yourself when you're past 40. Those photos are downright disgusting to me.
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Promoting an unhealthy weight as being normal is not a good thing, be it overweight or underweight.
Women should just focus on living healthy instead of starving themselves or eating excessive amounts of food, as one other user mentioned, extremes are never good.
The people giving their opinions here are the EXACT reason a body positivity movement is necessary. If y'all assholes quit with the double standards on accepting anorexically skinny models but not overweight models, then maybe we could actually start talking about healthy eating. As it is, we have to FIRST get people to understand that not being skinny is not inherently bad, and maybe then we can actually talk about encouraging healthy eating.
I don't think Tess Holliday is all that interested in "encouraging healthy eating" though, if anything she's gotten more obese since she first became known as a "plus size" model. I've leveled the same criticism against anorexic "standards" for runway models many times before. There's no double standard. Most red-blooded males do NOT encourage anorexically skinny women to remain anorexic. The fashion industry does that all by itself. And who finances the fashion industry? WOMEN. I can count on one hand the times I've seen a man pick up a fashion magazine off a newsstand, yet women consume that industry's output in the millions, every day. Maybe look at women's consumer habits that enable this toxic industry, rather than putting the blame at the feet of men who HONESTLY COULD CARE LESS about whether some runway model shows her ribcage or not.
Body positivity was never about fat blobs being accepted. It was about people with physical abnormality, such as missing limbs, skin problems, scars, etc... accepting something they couldn't change and live with it.
Being a huge fat shit isn't part of body positivity, she's just a lazy whale pretending it's body positivity because she refuses to do what it takes to lose weight.
Thankfully neither obesity nor size zero is promoted where I am.
People don't shame underweight women to nearly the degree they shame overweight women. And like, NEWSFLASH, eating habits aren't correlated to weight to nearly the degree some of y'all indicate they are, and they're certainly not correlated to health to that extent. All that calling fat people "gross" or "lazy" does is a. harm their mental health, and b. force us to create campaigns that focus on countering that kind of hate, rather than ones that actually talk about how to eat healthy (without equating weight with health).
Also, I REALLY don't care who's consuming what. I don't give a shit about responsibility, I give a shit about people being happy and healthy. I don't care if a group if somehow causing themselves to suffer, or suffering out of free choice, I only care that they don't suffer. Free will is fake, the only thing that actually matters in the end is that suffering should be reduced in whatever ways possible.
Both underweight and overweight women are shamed. Even underweight guys who lack muscles are shamed in certain other parts of the world.
I guess the underweight women aren't shamed in the USA.
@Babygirl_S Severely underweight is sometimes shamed/recognized as bad. But there's still a lot of focus on having a flat stomach, and women who are even slightly overweight (or just not skinny enough to conform to the supposed ideal) are targeted with a lot more shame than women who are slightly on the skinny side.
That's interesting because here both overweight and underweight people are criticized equally.
Anyways I haven't actually seen a woman of that size in India.
@Babygirl_S Where are you from? And while I'm not sure that's ideal really, it's at least not hypocritical. I think my ideal would be not criticizing people for their bodies (harming mental health to maybe improve physical health) but just focusing on healthy habits and nicely encouraging people to be healthy if they seem like they're living an unhealthy lifestyle
Yes, that is the correct thing to do.
She looks unsightly. Her body is nothing to be proud of. It's so unhealthy being that obese.
Many years ago, people complained about supermodels being too skinny and that it promoted anorexia. But promoting obesity is far worse.
The slim models on the catwalk look far more beautiful than the fat ones. That's my personal opinion
Let her be her. It's not hurting anyone and it certainly isn't a personal attack on anyone. Everyone gains and loses weight throughout their life and some are more prone to weight gain whether they want it or not. Even if they're trying to get rid of it, don't you think they deserve a little representation? Just because they're not where you and society want them to be weight wise doesn't make them any less a person.
This isn't about what we and society feel is "sexc or acceptable". It's about what is healthy and she is clearly not.
Being proud to be morbidly obese is not something that should be accepted or promoted.
I dont treat fat people any less but to idolize them for doing what we all gotta do anyways : being courageous.. trying new things.. going for what you want and need.. Lets toss in health!
I feel that, when he said she is a statement model, well that's poor. There are so many things in life and to be popular for standing up for your size instead of doing something to change yourself for a better version of you? That would be the goal. Learn how to walk the run way, don't shake your boobs at the cameras and stand up straight. Go you for being brave but walk for the right reasons.
*Walk for the people that can't lose weight via health issues or genetics.
*Walk because you are being PAID good money for your image.
*Walk because every step you take a back donates money to a charitable cause.
Just my 2ćents
I wish there would be more average sized women on the runway, not so many super skinny and super fat chicks. I don't think either extreme is good. Why can't normal be beautiful? Why does fat get to be beautiful but not normal? I feel like I'm not represented, and I think a lot of other women feel the same way.
I think this
And when underweight models were premoted it was okay?
Since when did overweight become beautiful?
@Babygirl_S
Both overweight and underweight should not be premoted
To be skin and bones is not ok. But I take it from your reaction that you are a big girl.
Mostly muscles
Then what's the problem? Of you agree skin and bones and fat as hell is equally bad then there is nothing to debate now is there?
Haha the pansexual part seems silly.
I dont think too much about it. She is the opposite of the anorexic model, both are equally bad in their own way.
Why dont they have a healthy variation of women between 115lbs to 170lbs 5'3"-6ft with different body types? Its always plus++ or anorexic
People her size need help more than acceptance. It's great to love your body, but if you love it, don't abuse it. Encouraging obesity isn't a good message to send.
Also she would never be famous if she didn't have a "skinny face" for her size.
Of all the plus models they have, they chose a sloppy example. They could've easily used someone sexy and classy like Ashley Graham
And tyra
tyra yes. AG no.
Ashley Graham is gorgeous and classy. why not?
Because she isn't gorgeous or aspirational.
AG unphotoshopped. No thank you. www.exposecheaters.online/.../
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She's posted those on her instagram already and said," this is me unphotoshopped ". Its not like she "ask" to be photoshopped. Tyra is photoshopped to.. to each it's own but I love Ashley's confidence. I really liked her when I seen her on steve Harvey show. she's so down to earth
I don't care about her confidence and I just don't like her vibe. I've met her in person and she is just average. Not aspirational or stunning like Romee Strijd or Candace Swanepoel or Adriana Lima. Even Chiara Ferragni and negin mirsalehi are better. AG is only popular in us due to obesity rates it's a joke.
Trashy and gross. I hate tess holliday I think she stands for the wrong reasons and loves the attention. I’m not the thinnest person ever and I’m not perfect, but to promote obesity to the extent she does is horrendous
I think she's more suited to catalog/Instagram modeling. The point of runway is to show off clothes, and I think she's a bit short to do that well. Don't get me wrong, she's a gorgeous woman, but not suited for runways.
From what I've heard she has a terrible personality, so it makes me sad that she is being rewarded, but that's just how life is I guess.
I don't see what her sexuality has to do with any of this... Good for her.
Let them keep doing it. They're digging their own hole. In other countries they laugh at the USA for this type of shit. Rich men are going to Europe, Latin America (brazil especially) and Asia to get thinner gorgeous women. In Europe they're starting to reject American models like CRAZY out of fear this dumb shit will become popular out there.
I think we also need to speak up though.
@UncleJessieRabbit To a point. Remember the more you say something is bad, the more women do it and the more they enjoy it. Let them parade around their fat asses, develop diabetes and realize no one is wathcing and no one cares - it will hit them like a ton of bricks.
You have a point.
How did they reinforce that walkway... they would need to use steel I-beams and concrete!
FAT disgusting war pigs are not "Sexy" no matter how much they try and force it down our throats.
Tess Holliday is morbidly obese and should NOT be a role model for nieve female children.
I am not surprised a member of the social justice mental illness came out as "madeup"sexual.
They need to get as many attention cards as they can because otherwise, they would be no one.
I don’t really think much about it. I don’t really think much about any model walking the run way. I think she’s beautiful, but that’s the whole point of being a model so that’s not particularly amazing. It’s nice to see that they’re being inclusive to bigger body shapes I guess.
Hmm I thought she was on a weightloss program.
And what the hell is a pansexual? She gets turned on by frying pans or something?
Well my mouth would be salivating too if I'm cooking some bacon in a pan.
The rhetoric around encouraging people to love themselves is to improve mental health and promote self esteem.
I think people need to avoid telling others how to live. I think people need to stop being mean and name-calling.
Love yourself but don't love being fat. Go on a damn diet and you'll be able to love yourself when you're past 40. Those photos are downright disgusting to me.
Her poor ankles and knees cannae take much more of this!