Tess holliday walked an NYFW show What do you think?

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I hate the boob juggling.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Aww, the second one is unavailable. Okay, not everyone is going to like this, but hear me out.

An average size for a healthy adult woman is size 10 - 14 (sometimes size 16 depending on ethnicity) but the average of most (western) countries is closer to 14 - 18 when it's evened out. The women who model are pushed, bullied and demanded to average between a size 4 - 8, children's sizes & dangerously unhealthy. I know there's healthy size 8 teens or the 1 in 1M woman but I'm talking about everyone, not just the exceptions.

I think, yes, it's very clear Tess is living in a dangerous way & her size isn't ideal or the 6 size most designers make clothes in so they can save money on materials whilst pocketing the rest of 'budget' (I don't get fired up about this, I don't know what you're talking about :p). All of those things are very true but exactly the same things are true about almost all other models too. Bulimia, medications, dangerous diets & mindsets, slews of health problems, she might do shows where she's the healthiest model there.

Then we reach the problem of 'the image'. I don't think, many people are going to look at Tess & say "if only I was excessively obese I could do that too" but they might say "You mean, my life isn't meaningless because I'm overweight? I can still do the things I want to do?" Of all of the horrible things people are sold by magazines one more unhealthy model who actually helps people feel good about themselves or have hope or get out & *do* those things they've been saying they can't, is that so bad? The worst she's likely to be to most people is an obnoxious headline but the best? Seeing someone who looks just like them, being able to achieve something, anything, in the beauty industry, could completely change somebodies life, save it even, if they hated themselves enough that they were thinking about suicide. A lot of people don't realise the intense level of abuse some (some) obese people have/do endure, that just seeing something where they can be included is enough to start to change their mindset.

In short, Tess may have start a whole lot of these conversations but I don't think they should end with her & her decisions/influence. She should be one of more people like her doing the same thing not because "fat is good" but because people are fat and people should be represented wearing clothes, in advertising, on TV etc. *Then* because people who weren't connected before now have a way to connect that can be used by other/advertisers/the community as a way to help draw them back into a healthier lifestyle, whether that's about food, exercise or people. This kind of action is the bridge the connects those who have been cut off.

VIVANT · Accepted Answer

Modeling definitely needs Women of varying size- MOST women are not 5 ft 10 and 115 pounds or 5 8 and 95 pounds ... no one can relate to how the clothing is actually going to look

I’m tall so I don say this to make myself feel better but honestly modeling size should be a range of heights -and weights but within heathy range.

Designers can design stuff for any size I don’t buy that clothing is made for a certain height- it’s just an excuse to have women who look like men with breast so normal women will hate their bodies and sorbs billions on make up eating disorders therapy and surgery

Clinics make Upwards of 1000$ a day for people diagnosed with eating disorders. It’s a multi million$ industry producing turn then “ curing “ them

I think it’s great to love yourself even if overweight- hate can I refer with improvement... but loving yourself means wanting what is best. I don’t think being 500 pounds is good for anyone of any size.

It’s like they use one extreme to justify another extreme

Why when variation shows up , does it have to be morbidly obese. Just put some freaking 5 ft 3 100 to 120 pound women up there for a start , jeez

sejla · Accepted Answer

Clothes should be made for all sizes so that at whatever weight a woman can feel her best. People need to feel good about themselves so they can move toward being their best.

I just don't know how we convince people that eating poorly or carrying too much weight is no way to live. After the overly thin years during the 80s and 90s when it was all about being too thin we had a pendulum swing where it was about not being thin. There was a lot of good to that because people were taking drugs, diet pills and starving themselves to be something that wasn't natural but now we have the opposite problem.

I had joint pain yesterday and I can't see any way I could have functioned at all normally if I had been heavy. It was hard enough at 118 pounds to maneuver my body. No way at 140 and above could I have done it easily.

There really seems to be no way to convince people that there life could be a little bit of hell or it might shorten their lives by decades without losing weight. Being slim is not a guarantee to good health but it certainly may make a difference or at least make ill health not quite so miserable.

shimmeryns · Accepted Answer

She needs to lose a lot of weight...

WalterBlack · Accepted Answer

I think the commentator in the YouTube video got it right. She's not a fashion model, she's a "statement model". Somebody put her out there because they are trying to push an agenda or pander to the fat acceptance crowd. Or perhaps Tess Holiday's appearance was simply for shock value. In any case, I don't think it is something to be celebrated. I'm trying to be fair. Tess is only hurting herself by being the size that she is - it doesn't directly hurt anyone else. But this "performance" seems like a slightly more refined version of a freak show performer from an old fashioned circus.

Massageman · Accepted Answer

She has a right to get hired for whatever purpose she was hired. We have the right to look away before we get nauseous.

MarciOwens · Answer

Tess holliday walked an NYFW show What do you think?

My very favorite episode of "Star Trek The Next Generation"...
Was when they discovered life forms from OUR time. (The show takes place 300 years from now)

The topic of "Television" came up, and no one on the ship had a clue what that was.
Commander Data (The Android that knows everything)

... Explained that television was a "fad" that lasted about 90 years on Earth.

It's hard for me to explain, but I felt somehow relieved!

As a young girl, I never understood how playing video games was bad, but sitting on your fat fucking ass and watching football was good! Who makes these crazy-ass rules?

Anyway, my hat's off to that walrus on that stage. She's probably richer than all of us put together.

BrittBratt2416 · Answer

Shrug, just a big chick in a dress.. but I have to say... the last time I saw her.. she looked smaller even though she was big? Does that make any sense? Like you see a big person, and then you see them again and you think... damn, they were a lot smaller even though they were big now it just look like they got bigger even though they already big... lol I don't know

See her face in this picture looks a little bit more slimmer

But it this picture her face got fatter/bigger

Anyway, even though she's fat/obese/overweight whatever you want to call her- I still think she has pretty face. For some reason a lot of people make it seem impossible for fat people to have a good looking face.. it's possible even if they fat.

Chadnelson1973 · Answer

I don't think she's model material ! There's the classic model , there's average models. But sorry she's not model material this is just gross ! Other models are not juggling or playing with their boobs on the runway it's unprofessional. Also being that huge is not healthy. There are going to be both men and women who will end up over eating and gaining unhealthy weight because of her ! Just like women who would starve themselves by becoming beleamic to become super skinny. This model could cause people to become very obese this is wrong , dangerous and unhealthy in so many ways. The modeling and fashion industry needs to get rid of her. There's hundreds of men and women trying to loose weight and work on a healthier lifestyle this woman could bring down someone's goals. People will use her as a excuse to balloon 300 -400-500 pounds and more this woman is dangerous and is being rewarded for a lifetime of bad choices

TheKack · Answer

I don't like her personality, her over sexualization of a rather benign event. I also don't think we should make people like this into role models. She's fat, she's unhealthy. Embracing her weight is doing nothing but taking more time off her life. I mean, someone finds her attractive, they may love her, and yet she's fine with killing herself and telling people it's okay if they do it too ("come on now! Everyone should drink their koolaid... now timmy, I said it was time to drink it. DRINK IT!" Is essentially how I see what she's doing).

SjE78 · Answer

fair play to her... thing is the fashion industry and most of society has been indoctrinated to think skinny is hot and sexy and anyone with even a small amount of weight is unhealthy or ugly or both

when in fact too skinny and that too can be unhealthy...

however for all those haters, isn't it her choice how she lives her life? you all live how you wish and let people live how they do... and it's worth mentioning that just cos someone is fat doesn't mean they eat like a damned pig to excess...
I've known a lot of people over the years who barely even eat and look like they eat 10 large meals a day, most barely even bother...

devilman666 · Answer

I'm sorry, her body doesn't even look human too me anymore, every part of her body is bulging out in all the wrong ways. It almost looks like she has difficulty reaching her boobs in the boob juggle thing, and she had to wear different shoes than the other models. Please can we stop promoting this garbage? I want to reduce childhood obesity, not watch as it skyrockets ffs, this body positivity bullshit is hurting our children. During Obama childhood obesity was a problem, now because of body positivity it is not a problem and nothing needs to be done about it.

LordSnuggles · Answer

I think she exemplifies the worst in America. Obesity is a major contributing factor to heart disease and cancer. Two of the biggest killers of Americans. Instead of fixing it, it struts as people clap. Call it empowerment. You could say she's ebodies the worst traits of modern America.

Hidden_P · Answer

I fully agree with the first video.

Look. We all agree that these models (Victoria secret etc) are much slimmer than the average person. Yes, fab models, but not realistic.

Tess Holliday began as a plus size model representing bigger people. She’s more than that now. She’s the other extreme.

However; the first video goes on and on about how unhealthy and how she’s not modelling the clothes etc etc. Well... neither are the skinny ones! In both cases the “clothes” are covering their intimate parts but nobody is addressing eating disorders in either case!

Crazy thought. We stop models being extreme and go for a rough middle. People are slimmer, people are bigger, life happens we don’t need models for us go “oh yeah, those clothes fit a body”
Stop this extreme hatred.

Wharvey98 · Answer

You can love yourself and not be morbidly obese. I don’t care what people say, obesity is affecting far more people than anorexia. And it’s just as likely to kill you. People as a whole need to take better care of themselves. You don’t fix an extreme problem by making another extreme problem, and why people don’t see that is beyond me.

AuroraRoseat · Answer

Good for her. Also bald ripped dude is wrong. While there are models that are hired just to boost the appearance of diversity, there are definitely plus sized models who are legit models. Models were bigger in the past than the anorexic ones we see today.

That said, I want to know if her health is in a healthy weight range. Many plus size models are bigger but still not obese. Obesity is a health issue that plagues the majority of America. Love plus size individuals and that’s what the movement is about, but it’s also about ensuring that you’re healthy

genericname85 · Answer

why is it that those fat landwhales enter a room with physically attractive women and demand to be seen as physically attractive? they aren't. if you're fat, don't be all about physical beauty, cause that's not the field in which you're good at all... man this is dumb.

i mean her statement is litterally: look i'm WAY too fat but i still demand that you find me sexy instead of working on my body like all the other models... what a great way of showing what a shitty person you are

White-American89 · Answer

I think promoting obesity is morally wrong as is normalizing it.

Anna__M · Answer

I understand that the fashion industry is trying to branch out and become more inclusive. But this is the wrong direction. Females like this should not walk the runway. This should not be promoted same way anorexia should not be promoted in this industry.

wankiam · Answer

its one thing to use more diverse models but to celebrate obesity is going too far i think... also why should anyone car about her sexuality? what the hell has that got to do with her job as a clothes hanger? maybe she needs a lesson in the fact none of us give a shit rather than trying to 'shock' the world

SirRexington · Answer

I feel like she's gotten fatter... And what the hell is that video? The music is awful and even with women of multiple sizes, the poses done on the catwalk still look retarded.

And of course she's attracted to pans... Its what she cooks all her food in. That and grease...

trina3 · Answer

She can't even walk properly she's morbidly obese and he personal trainer should be kicked to the curb because this bxtch is just gaining more and more weight and uses her hashtag f your beauty standards as an excuse because she's lazy and getting that dough, imagine how difficult it must be to walk with all that weight.
France and a few other places have banned women who are too skinny but this is ok
um I think tf not

Justacatlady · Answer

She’s so gross. She doesn’t help women. If she wanted to make a good message she would start getting healthier. Show big girls that it’s okay to love yourself while you get to a healthy point in life. Not love yourself and keep treating your body like shit

Kaytiee · Answer

Disgusting.
Let’s face the FACTS.
She’s not a model because she’s selling the clothes; because she’s beautiful.

She’s simply a “model” for the brand to say “look at us! We are “diverse.”

Just like how fashion brands go all out for pride month, and then forget it exists the next day of the next month 😂

-Asca- · Answer

Are most models too thin? Yes
Should normal and plus-sized women be models? Yes
Can plus-sized women still look good? Yes
But she is just too much. This is not beautiful, this is not healthy, she's not just above average, or chubby, she's just heavily obese and that is a problem and I don't think this should be promoted.

thelokisniper · Answer

She's a poster girl for fat pride. This is disturbing, not because she is comfortable with herself (not sure how true that really is) but that she is lying to herself saying that she could possibly be within healthy limits. Wake up and put in the work to get in shape or reap the consequences of an unhealthy lifestyle.

ShadowofRegret · Answer

Promoting an unhealthy weight as being normal is not a good thing, be it overweight or underweight.

Women should just focus on living healthy instead of starving themselves or eating excessive amounts of food, as one other user mentioned, extremes are never good.

cipher42 · Answer

The people giving their opinions here are the EXACT reason a body positivity movement is necessary. If y'all assholes quit with the double standards on accepting anorexically skinny models but not overweight models, then maybe we could actually start talking about healthy eating. As it is, we have to FIRST get people to understand that not being skinny is not inherently bad, and maybe then we can actually talk about encouraging healthy eating.

Anonymous · Answer

She looks unsightly. Her body is nothing to be proud of. It's so unhealthy being that obese.

Many years ago, people complained about supermodels being too skinny and that it promoted anorexia. But promoting obesity is far worse.

The slim models on the catwalk look far more beautiful than the fat ones. That's my personal opinion

Randomawkwardness · Answer

Let her be her. It's not hurting anyone and it certainly isn't a personal attack on anyone. Everyone gains and loses weight throughout their life and some are more prone to weight gain whether they want it or not. Even if they're trying to get rid of it, don't you think they deserve a little representation? Just because they're not where you and society want them to be weight wise doesn't make them any less a person.

muliebrity · Answer

I dont treat fat people any less but to idolize them for doing what we all gotta do anyways : being courageous.. trying new things.. going for what you want and need.. Lets toss in health!

jellydphoto · Answer

I feel that, when he said she is a statement model, well that's poor. There are so many things in life and to be popular for standing up for your size instead of doing something to change yourself for a better version of you? That would be the goal. Learn how to walk the run way, don't shake your boobs at the cameras and stand up straight. Go you for being brave but walk for the right reasons.

*Walk for the people that can't lose weight via health issues or genetics.

*Walk because you are being PAID good money for your image.

*Walk because every step you take a back donates money to a charitable cause.

Just my 2ćents

happyhedgehog · Answer

I wish there would be more average sized women on the runway, not so many super skinny and super fat chicks. I don't think either extreme is good. Why can't normal be beautiful? Why does fat get to be beautiful but not normal? I feel like I'm not represented, and I think a lot of other women feel the same way.

megaman242 · Answer

I think this

GuidoThePizzaMaker · Answer

Haha the pansexual part seems silly.
I dont think too much about it. She is the opposite of the anorexic model, both are equally bad in their own way.

Why dont they have a healthy variation of women between 115lbs to 170lbs 5'3"-6ft with different body types? Its always plus++ or anorexic

somethingcoolio · Answer

People her size need help more than acceptance. It's great to love your body, but if you love it, don't abuse it. Encouraging obesity isn't a good message to send.
Also she would never be famous if she didn't have a "skinny face" for her size.

flowers70 · Answer

Of all the plus models they have, they chose a sloppy example. They could've easily used someone sexy and classy like Ashley Graham

Brookie1212 · Answer

Trashy and gross. I hate tess holliday I think she stands for the wrong reasons and loves the attention. I’m not the thinnest person ever and I’m not perfect, but to promote obesity to the extent she does is horrendous

Carbon-12 · Answer

I think she's more suited to catalog/Instagram modeling. The point of runway is to show off clothes, and I think she's a bit short to do that well. Don't get me wrong, she's a gorgeous woman, but not suited for runways.
From what I've heard she has a terrible personality, so it makes me sad that she is being rewarded, but that's just how life is I guess.

I don't see what her sexuality has to do with any of this... Good for her.

ronaldo75 · Answer

Let them keep doing it. They're digging their own hole. In other countries they laugh at the USA for this type of shit. Rich men are going to Europe, Latin America (brazil especially) and Asia to get thinner gorgeous women. In Europe they're starting to reject American models like CRAZY out of fear this dumb shit will become popular out there.

Anonymous · Answer

How did they reinforce that walkway... they would need to use steel I-beams and concrete!

FAT disgusting war pigs are not "Sexy" no matter how much they try and force it down our throats.

Tess Holliday is morbidly obese and should NOT be a role model for nieve female children.
I am not surprised a member of the social justice mental illness came out as "madeup"sexual.
They need to get as many attention cards as they can because otherwise, they would be no one.

Anonymous · Answer

I don’t really think much about it. I don’t really think much about any model walking the run way. I think she’s beautiful, but that’s the whole point of being a model so that’s not particularly amazing. It’s nice to see that they’re being inclusive to bigger body shapes I guess.

hellacray · Answer

Hmm I thought she was on a weightloss program.

And what the hell is a pansexual? She gets turned on by frying pans or something?

Well my mouth would be salivating too if I'm cooking some bacon in a pan.

Gypsy_x · Answer

The rhetoric around encouraging people to love themselves is to improve mental health and promote self esteem.

I think people need to avoid telling others how to live. I think people need to stop being mean and name-calling.

holograph · Answer

Love yourself but don't love being fat. Go on a damn diet and you'll be able to love yourself when you're past 40. Those photos are downright disgusting to me.

Bananaman177 · Answer

Her poor ankles and knees cannae take much more of this!

Anonymous · Answer

I think she gained even more weight? God, how do you get so fat? Isn't there like a point where you realise you've gone too far and have to lose weight for your own health? I'm all for body positivity, but you should love yourself and improve yourself at the same time

Shuri · Answer

I'm all for loving yourself, but can someone please explain to me why there's a limit on how thin you can be for 'health' reasons but not how fat you can be? Sorry, but I need like a logical explanation to this.

kyatra · Answer

I think it's a clever move by the fashion designer to get controversy stirred up surrounding their show/clothes and thus attention brought to them, and a bid to get a wider range customers, and thus more money

Passinggas · Answer

I think insanity is contagious in the left and any that promote this are mentally ill. The basic statement here is I am a pig; I look like shit and kiss-my-ass.

YvanKarma · Answer

She is a beautiful woman, no doubt, but designer really need to make better clothes/lingerie for plus size women, plus size people in general.

Roxi- · Answer

Tess holiday is such a terrible ideal 😌 be fat but that fat is obese and you are not healthy idc. Love you first to be honest, why did early to fight social stigmas about fat people 🤦🏽‍♀️?

I_like_bread · Answer

Disgusting. I get that body shaming is bad, but that's only when it's about something that a person can't control. This, however, is unhealthy, unattractive, and should not be accepted as the norm.

Phoenix98 · Answer

Honestly I find her disgusting and repulsive. She needs to lose weight not only because her condition is horribly unhealthy but because she's promoting obesity.

charlie_all_night · Answer

Stunning and confident.. Gorgeous woman an there are so many fit ladies that could use this kind of self esteem instead of making themselves sick to stay "looking in shape".. Its a turn on to see she seems to have great respect for herself..

1truekhaleesi · Answer

I don't care about her size. There is a market for plus size men and women, so there's going to be plus size models. I don't like this because she's an awful person.

name_is_eric · Answer

How could a land whale be washed up on the stage? She's far, far away from the beach.

Anonymous · Answer

She is definitely not a model material. And I'm not even talking about her size here. What she did was tacky, vulgar and very unprofessional. Models aren't supposed to act like cheap strippers.

Juxtapose · Answer

Eww, look at her arms!

DizzyDesii · Answer

Some call it confidence but i cal it carelessness. people oughta get tired of embarassing themselves. Like damn do something about the issue

Dihiya · Answer

what's wrong with most men and some women being nasty in the comment section , okay you don't like her okay, just dont call her names and make derogatory jokes about her ; yes it's not healthy or appealing to most but still you can express your opinions in a less hurtful way

Minerate · Answer

Just gross all around.  Also this guy did the walk better.

Smiley_face101 · Answer

I find it laughable that all of those who scream "its not healthy" drool on underweight models. Not that this is healthy of course

HomoFuge · Answer

She looks ridiculous especially in that outfit and those ugly tattoos.

Curmudgeon · Answer

If she was bayonetted, how soon would blood be drawn? Could she be used for organ harvesting?

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