Do you believe MGTOWs are just incels in denial trying to find a way to cope?

[Physics-Man]

Yes

No

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I'm starting to believe they are.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5pOVmCSQ8OI&t=267s

[Guanfei]

MGTOW don't hate women, and they don't reject women. They just refuse commitment and any kind of tying up with a woman, as they think women have the upper hand in any situation and therefore being committed is not worth it. They just live their life free of any commitment with women, but they still talk to women, have sex and even short relationships.
Nothing comparable with incels, who hate women as a whole. Incels are basically male feminazis.

[NerdInDenial]

Can an INCEL be a MGTOW? Yes, MGTOW is a lifestyle or way of thinking. So, are there guys who are "genetically inferior" that consider themselves MGTOW? Yes, but it's not a negative. Instead of them going on a "search" and receiving constant rejection, they have found a new way to live.

[WhiteShoulder]

Not sure, but I think some MGTOWs have had plenty of sex. They just don’t wanna deal with women anymore.

[WhiteShoulder]

Thanks :-)

[BeMuse]

The collectivism aspect of it is a bit weird, since men in general are raised to be their own man and make their own decisions anyway. If you’re going your own way then why are you herding together in a group? :S Anyway, I think they generally have valid points about laws in the western world and how they negatively impact men’s lives. Choosing to not get married due to those negative societal influences isn’t a terrible idea. Choosing to not interact with women is a bit off. You can casually sleep with women and even have long term girlfriends (love and companionship) that you don’t marry and bypass a good deal of the legal inequality. You do still have to watch out for the crazies though so I guess they just don’t want to deal with that shit. I don’t really blame them, girls can be a pain in the ass, but they’re not all bad.

[lucas262]

Iv been mgtow since 2015, and i guess i would classify as an incel. The last thing I ever wanted to hear or believe was mgtow to be red pilled is to know uncomfortable irrefutable truths about the world and people around you and your place in it.

It was fundamentally changing.
I can say i went through a time I hates women and the world.

Today I don't hate women i feel anger at a system that has failed men and women and was designed to do so. I don't hate the world just what its become.

What mgtow did for me though was open my eyes to things i never would have wanted to see or know, but it also made me a much stronger better person.

Women will never truly understand mgtow but they are curious about it especially as more and more men are waking up. And I was the most blue pill simp type out there before.

[TheFlak38]

mgtow is a way of life, a way of thinking, a philosophy if you like. Any guy can (and should) go his own way. If there is an incel switching to mgtow then I see this as an absolute win. I find it funny when I see guys who have fucked hundreds of women and describing themselves as "serial monogamists" saying that they are against mgtow on one hand and on the other hand rejecting relationships and marriage and keep on banging women just to increase their body count. They are doing the exact same thing a mgtow does yet they will never admit that they are. These guys project their own insecurities when they hate on mgtow.

[SkipStop]

No. They are men who realized that it's not worth forcing themselves to suffer over this one thing. It's better to turn to other things that will benefit them much greater. Instead of falling into the hole which makes you all depressed, just jump over it and keep going for everything else you can get. Smart men.

[Levin]

Sure. It's a means of empowerment. Pretending that you really didn't want what you do naturally desire.

I think men can empower themselves in better ways. Uselessly fawning and giving themselves over to women is nothing men should do anyway. In that respect, MGTOW are right.

[Anonymous]

Mgtow and masculism are the only solutions to stop feminism (misandry). İf a man against mgtow or masculism, it means he has a femdom or findom fetish and worship women.

[Anonymous]

I think incels make up a bulk of MGTOW but really it's for any guy that is fed up with a woman's shenanigans.

[CuriousMufuxka]

No. While both are well, retards.. At least the MG's got some pussy along the way.

[Anonymous]

They are just feminists with a penis.

[MzAsh]

Very possible.