Do you think that the MGTOW (Men going their own way) are really going their own way?

[Unit1]

They are

No

No, they are going the "MGTOW" way, not *their own* way

ABSOLUTELY NOT! They are going the opposite direction of which they believe they are heading. They focus even more on women than the non-MGTOW men!

[JudgmentDay]

D all the fucking way!

"ABSOLUTELY NOT! They are going the opposite direction of which they believe they are heading. They focus even more on women than the non-MGTOW men!"

I mean they focus so much energy and time hating and blaming the opposite gender for their problems and shit. Me and you we realize it's the system that is the true enemy; the people at the very top that fucked over everyone else at the bottom. But I praise it each time people choose to sterilize and/or become childfree, as that's a way to be against the system and stop supporting it any further than they're obligated to or had to. Like I said earlier, it would be much better and efficient for BOTH genders to unite and go against the system, and the best way to do this is to become childfree couples that had the procedures done. It's the best way to protest this absurd system and reality anyway.

Although it isn't a win-win situation, but it's better than constantly hating and blaming somebody else. Why not unite and blame the shit system and how fucked up it all is? They should rant about that instead, but it's never gonna be fixed anyway. So far the only nation that's in the lead for declining births and supposedly fighting against the system's bullshit is Japan IIRC, if only there was a way for the whole world to stand together and say fuck it and stop supporting it any further than they had to.

[Unit1]

Once again, I fully agree with everything you have said. Well said!

As such I try to stay away from the government as much as possible (going off the grid, under the radar - actually that's something, that MGTOW has invented) and not reproduce more taxpayers owned by the government like you and me and those, who did not come to this existence yet but I am 100% sure, that those, who were never born would thank me a million times if they could for NOT bringing them into this messy system. Besides we are too crowded anyway.

The guys at Japan are awesome and doing a great job! They are really giving the government a kick into their fat asses. But what is the government going to do? Nothing for now but I suspect, that these assholes will come up with a new way of "forcing" us to reproduce and being unhappily "married" by force also.

[ThisDudeHere]

Similarly to feminism (though MGTOW is not a movement), there are good apples and bad apples. An actual MGTOW doesn't even hate women - he just doesn't play society's games and leads a life that centers around his own goals and desires, not those of others, especially women.
The bad bunch are the pitty-seeking douches who often label women as this evil entity that does not abide by anything one would consider humane or human-like.

[Unit1]

Fully agreed dude!

[alice55]

Not really. They say they want to live without caring of women but most of the time they talk about women. It's kind of not logic.
(to what I can have saw on internet at least).

[alice55]

Thanks for the MHO :)

[momo770]

I don't get your context, you mean men doing their own thing or is this a movement?

[mrsticks]

MGTOW is a community.

[momo770]

Will have 2 read their literature, ty

[mrsticks]

I wouldn't. Check out my answer to this for a quick look into what you'll find. I've delved into their 'culture' persay, it's a bit concerning.

[momo770]

from what I read on your post, indeed

[mrsticks]

The choices are a little spergy at the end, but most MGTOW just want a group to call home, people who "get" it.

They become entrenched in their echo chamber and are no better than the third-wave feminists.

I'm *technically* mgtow, but I don't consider myself mgtow or part of their community. I don't want to be in a group where it's just a pity circle jerk.

[TheFlak38]

Real men are always going their own way. What these losers do is relating this attitude with politics and social movements to who how pissed their are with women.

[Anonymous]

ABSOLUTELY NOT! They are going the opposite direction of which they believe they are heading. They focus even more on women than the non-MGTOW men!

[Anonymous]

actually they pumping and dumping chicks before going their own way which is more harmful.

[Anonymous]

They rant about how bad women are. That's all