Not sure, I think it's become kind of a 'with us or against us' mentality going around nowadays, kinda like in politics or feminism or anything like that, both sides are guilty of it, I think it would be more beneficial to everyone to try to see people on a more individual basis instead of what group they're in, and try to understand the reasons behind why someone holds the beliefs that they do; and especially that they try to actually listen to each other and talk it out, both to round out your own beliefs and come to a compromise that would hopefully help everybody.
I hate the extreme. I've been always supporting women in every way I can and then I see women on YouTube with their painted bare tits out on the streets for everyone to see even children or saying all kind of weird stuff that females are better than men, breaking stuff etc. So I'm sitting in front of my computer asking my self "who the f@ck am I supporting again and why?" I believe in equality but I hate extremists. Feminists back in the day where people should look up to, feminists were people that actually wanted to do good and actually help women. So when people say they hate feminism most of the time they mean they hate the extremists.
Feminism back then was based on problems that do exist.
Feminism now: >Fuck equality we want more rights than you. > STDs are sexist >manspreading is sexist >All men are trash >Teaching your son masculine traits is wrong.(which doesn't explain how humanity has made it this far) >transwomen are allowed to dominate womens sports and deny actual girls scholarships to get ahead.
The list goes on, this isn't feminism at all, it's creating problems out of thin air and accusing men in general of having no signs of compassion.
it's a silly question, you need to research why people hate it instead of just asking opinions on g@g
feminism destroyed the family unit, ripped children out of their mother's arms and into the cold embrace of THE STATE, and completely obliterated the true loving bond between man and woman, sending us deeper and deeper into a spiral of nihilism and the hedonist behavior that follows it, and that signals the coming of the end of a civilization
oh but lemme guess im an incel for saying that XD fuck this world and all the retards in it
That is because, like in any other group, the group itself is known for the loudest and most extreme members.
Meaning less known Women fighting for equality in the middle east, aren't as well know as others that went viral with some super ridiculus or really extreme demands.
Because feminism became the thing they sworn to destroy haha. Its just become a man heating group now and a lot of woman don't even want to be associated with feminism anymore.
Started off with good intentions but over time became a group to shame and hate men.
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Because so many people don't realize that feminazis are not feminists, basically, lots of people are extremely stupid, and they usually confuse feminazism for feminism. The difference is very simple: Feminists are for gender equality. Feminazis are misandrists and female supremacists, they don't want equality, and they are haters.
Nobody stops men from trying to fix the issue? Have you seen what happens when we even bring up sexism against men? I don't care what you call it, third wave feminism is one of the many cancers in our society. First and second waves actually stood for women's rights, now it's literally just forcing people to adhere to their personal beliefs. The exact same thing happened with BLM.
Or the post i made yesterday where i address the thing MEN face that women can't relate too. The response is always in the form of an attack. But yes WOMEN FACE THINGS TOO etc etc.
I've always thought that a woman should get equal pay for equal work, equal vote, equal opinion, etc. But why are women so afraid of a man being the head of the house, as in provider and protector? It doesn't make her less, it isn't old fashioned, it's just the way it should be.
I believe everyone has a warped understanding about the concept of feminism, and it is actually not their fault. The media pushes a certain agenda and tries to actively fuel a gender war of sorts (actually it fuels all kind of discordant behaviours, anarchy gets the views). Women empowerment is necessary especially in the third world countries because their pleas often fall on deaf ears. I believe mutual understanding and the idea of progressing forward in a socio-cultural sense is necessary.
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"If men don't like sexism against them then nobody stops them from trying to fix the issue."
This ^ statement is pretty ironic given your question here. Feminism IS sexism against men, and by fighting against feminism men are doing exactly what your suggest above. If you truly, genuinely, seriously don't see that fact then you are blind as a bat.
At this point i don't care what feminists claim feminism is about. It's obvious feminists hate men, some more than the others but that's a prerequisite to becoming a feminist and as a man it's only natural that i hate the whole movement. Plus i don't like hypocrites. I don't like people who say that no one should discriminate against them based on their gender but are themselves guilty of all kinds of discrimination. At last i generally don't like weak, whiny masochists.
I don't. I fully support women's lib, equal rights and equal opportunity. But I will say that some feminists are completely off the rails. They seem to resent men and/or hate them to the core. I will say that most women I know support the kind of feminism that I support, but they love the male gender. They love the lady and gentleman thing, as well as rollicking sex. Those are my kind of gals.
I have no clue... Women deserve to be treated as equals... But I think if the movement was called equalism (idk) would be more accepted... Cuz "feminism" makes it look like women want to invert the situation of years ago and put the men in the position the women of the past were at.
Hate is a strong word, but ultimately it's because they don't really have any ground to stand on in regards to equality. The modern feminist movement is more about bringing down men than empowering women, and the way they go about pushing their agenda seems more like desperate attempts at getting attention rather than serious efforts for any cohesive reforms or measures.
Because feminism is trying to achieve equality by eliminating the strengths of both sexes in an attempt to make them more equal, and is in favor of gender discrimination and tries to make people adopt a sexist mindset by constantly assuming things are because of a gender.
This is being taught in schools in Spain a feminists hell hole. It’s literally man hating. Women are being brainwashed to hate and you expect men to like it and go along with it. Fuck that.
"If men don't like sexism against them then nobody stops them from trying to fix the issue." That's actually the reason so many western men hate Feminism in practice; because people, women especially, absolutely DO stop them from trying to fix the issues of sexism. Sexism against men (AT THIS POINT) is a much more systemized issue than it is for women. Much of the issues that women face are social and behavioral, but there isn't much that's actually part of the legal structure of society.
if they stop men from fighting for their rights then there are 2 possibilities: 1. those aren't feminists, but misandrists 2. those rights are conflicting with women's rights
Nothing you've listed is true, at all. "Empowering"? Bullshit. Sexism? I've never experienced it once, and I work in a field dominated by men at a ratio of something like 34-1. It's all in your head or used as an excuse for your own failures. We are equal, and in many ways have it better than men. Get your head out of your ass, shave your armpits, open your eyes to reality, and get a job you useless twat.
I already have a job you idiot. I work in a field dominated by men too and I have witnessed misogynism happening, not at work but in other areas. I assure you it is not about anything I have ever avchieved. Women can experience sexism in different ways. Since you make opinions on your own assumptions it is clear how smart you aren't.
People can look as they like. And you are the one who must wake up to reality. You speak like a brainwashed idiot, like those Muslim women speaking against the niqab ban. And if you want respect learn to speak respectfully.
Truth bombs? Really? She made assumtpions about me. If you agree with her you are just as bad. What if I made assumptions about you just because tou have a different opinion? I can say mean things too.
There is nothing true about her opinion. She is speaking arrogantly from a very narrow point of view. Just because she never felt discriminated it doesn't mean it doesn't hapen to other women. And I think myoriginal post is very understanding of both sides of the situation. Of you need to. react so agressively to a neutral post then you are cearly mentally troubled.
Well, we already had an exchange about how I feel about feminism and my preference for equality rather than equity.
As for what's happening here, even though feminist women are vastly outnumbered by non-feminist women, I enjoy the reminder than feminism doesn't have a monopoly on women, because it can feel that way sometimes.
"What if I made assumptions about you just because tou have a different opinion?" I mean... didn't you just do that in the previous sentence? "If you agree with her you are just as bad."
"She is speaking arrogantly from a very narrow point of view." But when you decide that all women prefer to wear the niqab must be brainwashed... you're not doing that too?
"a neutral post" "I think myoriginal post is very understanding of both sides of the situation." Well it wasn't. Just sayin' You made a calmly worded post, but it was not neutral on the issue in terms of stance. If by "neutral" you meant polite or calm then okay, but that doesn't mean you can't still make controversial statements that make people mad.
"Just because she never felt discriminated it doesn't mean it doesn't hapen to other women." And just because you feel discriminated doesn't mean it happens to most women -- nor that it's even a pervasive issue as feminists often categorize it.
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Not sure, I think it's become kind of a 'with us or against us' mentality going around nowadays, kinda like in politics or feminism or anything like that, both sides are guilty of it, I think it would be more beneficial to everyone to try to see people on a more individual basis instead of what group they're in, and try to understand the reasons behind why someone holds the beliefs that they do; and especially that they try to actually listen to each other and talk it out, both to round out your own beliefs and come to a compromise that would hopefully help everybody.
I hate the extreme. I've been always supporting women in every way I can and then I see women on YouTube with their painted bare tits out on the streets for everyone to see even children or saying all kind of weird stuff that females are better than men, breaking stuff etc. So I'm sitting in front of my computer asking my self "who the f@ck am I supporting again and why?" I believe in equality but I hate extremists. Feminists back in the day where people should look up to, feminists were people that actually wanted to do good and actually help women. So when people say they hate feminism most of the time they mean they hate the extremists.
Feminism back then was based on problems that do exist.
Feminism now:
>Fuck equality we want more rights than you.
> STDs are sexist
>manspreading is sexist
>All men are trash
>Teaching your son masculine traits is wrong.(which doesn't explain how humanity has made it this far)
>transwomen are allowed to dominate womens sports and deny actual girls scholarships to get ahead.
The list goes on, this isn't feminism at all, it's creating problems out of thin air and accusing men in general of having no signs of compassion.
it's a silly question, you need to research why people hate it instead of just asking opinions on g@g
feminism destroyed the family unit, ripped children out of their mother's arms and into the cold embrace of THE STATE, and completely obliterated the true loving bond between man and woman, sending us deeper and deeper into a spiral of nihilism and the hedonist behavior that follows it, and that signals the coming of the end of a civilization
oh but lemme guess im an incel for saying that XD fuck this world and all the retards in it
That is because, like in any other group, the group itself is known for the loudest and most extreme members.
Meaning less known Women fighting for equality in the middle east, aren't as well know as others that went viral with some super ridiculus or really extreme demands.
Because feminism became the thing they sworn to destroy haha. Its just become a man heating group now and a lot of woman don't even want to be associated with feminism anymore.
Started off with good intentions but over time became a group to shame and hate men.
Because so many people don't realize that feminazis are not feminists, basically, lots of people are extremely stupid, and they usually confuse feminazism for feminism.
The difference is very simple:
Feminists are for gender equality.
Feminazis are misandrists and female supremacists, they don't want equality, and they are haters.
Nobody stops men from trying to fix the issue? Have you seen what happens when we even bring up sexism against men?
I don't care what you call it, third wave feminism is one of the many cancers in our society. First and second waves actually stood for women's rights, now it's literally just forcing people to adhere to their personal beliefs. The exact same thing happened with BLM.
Or the post i made yesterday where i address the thing MEN face that women can't relate too. The response is always in the form of an attack. But yes WOMEN FACE THINGS TOO etc etc.
Ye, I just checked it out. It's fucking horrible how some women just attack us when we simply state that other people have problems too.
I've always thought that a woman should get equal pay for equal work, equal vote, equal opinion, etc. But why are women so afraid of a man being the head of the house, as in provider and protector? It doesn't make her less, it isn't old fashioned, it's just the way it should be.
I believe everyone has a warped understanding about the concept of feminism, and it is actually not their fault. The media pushes a certain agenda and tries to actively fuel a gender war of sorts (actually it fuels all kind of discordant behaviours, anarchy gets the views). Women empowerment is necessary especially in the third world countries because their pleas often fall on deaf ears. I believe mutual understanding and the idea of progressing forward in a socio-cultural sense is necessary.
"If men don't like sexism against them then nobody stops them from trying to fix the issue."
This ^ statement is pretty ironic given your question here. Feminism IS sexism against men, and by fighting against feminism men are doing exactly what your suggest above. If you truly, genuinely, seriously don't see that fact then you are blind as a bat.
https://www.google.com/search?q=men+are+trash&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS690US690&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwidmsG3mrbmAhWFjp4KHZ67AusQ_AUoAXoECAsQAw&biw=1536&bih=731&dpr=1.25
You are also a fool if you believe feminism has any interest whatsoever in equality of the sexes. Nothing could be further from the truth.
It's painfully obvious why so many people hate feminism.
At this point i don't care what feminists claim feminism is about. It's obvious feminists hate men, some more than the others but that's a prerequisite to becoming a feminist and as a man it's only natural that i hate the whole movement. Plus i don't like hypocrites. I don't like people who say that no one should discriminate against them based on their gender but are themselves guilty of all kinds of discrimination. At last i generally don't like weak, whiny masochists.
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I don't. I fully support women's lib, equal rights and equal opportunity. But I will say that some feminists are completely off the rails. They seem to resent men and/or hate them to the core.
I will say that most women I know support the kind of feminism that I support, but they love the male gender. They love the lady and gentleman thing, as well as rollicking sex. Those are my kind of gals.
We hate it because women mistake misandry for feminism
2000 feminism definition - we want our gender to be treated as equal and as human beings
2019 feminism definition - we want our gender to be treated as superiors and as goddesses but putting the opposite gender down
You see what I mean
Also do you know that this year women's problems are more important than men's problems
Like women's lives are more valued than men's lives
the above statement fits the women in the west
The absolute irony is that women in the west experience less sexism but complains a lot
Women in Asian and Middle Eastern countries ( apart from Oman ) experience the most sexism but complain the least
People who are actually experience pain complain the least
I have no clue... Women deserve to be treated as equals... But I think if the movement was called equalism (idk) would be more accepted...
Cuz "feminism" makes it look like women want to invert the situation of years ago and put the men in the position the women of the past were at.
Just my opinion tho.
Hate is a strong word, but ultimately it's because they don't really have any ground to stand on in regards to equality. The modern feminist movement is more about bringing down men than empowering women, and the way they go about pushing their agenda seems more like desperate attempts at getting attention rather than serious efforts for any cohesive reforms or measures.
Because feminism is trying to achieve equality by eliminating the strengths of both sexes in an attempt to make them more equal, and is in favor of gender discrimination and tries to make people adopt a sexist mindset by constantly assuming things are because of a gender.
This is being taught in schools in Spain a feminists hell hole. It’s literally man hating. Women are being brainwashed to hate and you expect men to like it and go along with it. Fuck that.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/fgrFdtHWtQU"If men don't like sexism against them then nobody stops them from trying to fix the issue." That's actually the reason so many western men hate Feminism in practice; because people, women especially, absolutely DO stop them from trying to fix the issues of sexism. Sexism against men (AT THIS POINT) is a much more systemized issue than it is for women. Much of the issues that women face are social and behavioral, but there isn't much that's actually part of the legal structure of society.
if they stop men from fighting for their rights then there are 2 possibilities:
1. those aren't feminists, but misandrists
2. those rights are conflicting with women's rights
Yup!
Nothing you've listed is true, at all.
"Empowering"? Bullshit.
Sexism? I've never experienced it once, and I work in a field dominated by men at a ratio of something like 34-1. It's all in your head or used as an excuse for your own failures.
We are equal, and in many ways have it better than men. Get your head out of your ass, shave your armpits, open your eyes to reality, and get a job you useless twat.
Careful, you could really hurt someone with those truth bombs!
Your arrogance is bigger than your head can contain
I already have a job you idiot. I work in a field dominated by men too and I have witnessed misogynism happening, not at work but in other areas. I assure you it is not about anything I have ever avchieved. Women can experience sexism in different ways. Since you make opinions on your own assumptions it is clear how smart you aren't.
People can look as they like. And you are the one who must wake up to reality. You speak like a brainwashed idiot, like those Muslim women speaking against the niqab ban. And if you want respect learn to speak respectfully.
What is next? You make assumptions on how my belly button looks like? Can you be more stupid than that?
Uh oh, looks the first casualty reports are coming in.
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Truth bombs? Really? She made assumtpions about me. If you agree with her you are just as bad. What if I made assumptions about you just because tou have a different opinion? I can say mean things too.
There is nothing true about her opinion. She is speaking arrogantly from a very narrow point of view. Just because she never felt discriminated it doesn't mean it doesn't hapen to other women.
And I think myoriginal post is very understanding of both sides of the situation. Of you need to. react so agressively to a neutral post then you are cearly mentally troubled.
Well, we already had an exchange about how I feel about feminism and my preference for equality rather than equity.
As for what's happening here, even though feminist women are vastly outnumbered by non-feminist women, I enjoy the reminder than feminism doesn't have a monopoly on women, because it can feel that way sometimes.
"What if I made assumptions about you just because tou have a different opinion?"
I mean... didn't you just do that in the previous sentence?
"If you agree with her you are just as bad."
"She is speaking arrogantly from a very narrow point of view."
But when you decide that all women prefer to wear the niqab must be brainwashed... you're not doing that too?
"a neutral post"
"I think myoriginal post is very understanding of both sides of the situation."
Well it wasn't. Just sayin'
You made a calmly worded post, but it was not neutral on the issue in terms of stance.
If by "neutral" you meant polite or calm then okay, but that doesn't mean you can't still make controversial statements that make people mad.
"Just because she never felt discriminated it doesn't mean it doesn't hapen to other women."
And just because you feel discriminated doesn't mean it happens to most women -- nor that it's even a pervasive issue as feminists often categorize it.