Cultural appropriation is a bullshit term that people only apply to white people which is itself incredibly racist. If you like a culture enough to adopt their style any level headed person from that culture would love seeing someone liking their culture. I visited japan with my boyfriend last year because he is a big fan of their culture and U bought this really cute traditional Japanese dress and wore it out on the town one day and so many people came up to me in it and told me how much they like my taking part in their culture.
Somehow its not wrong if a black person take part in white peoples culture everyday by living in a western democracy and using electricity, phones, tv, internet, blue jeans, modern medicine and modern transportation which were all created by white people so it is their culture and everyone using it after is cultural appropriation. No nobody feels that way but someone a white girl styling her hear in a traditional way that black women do its wrong...
Just stop with the all white people are evil and a global majority bully stick that the media has been pushing for years I am sick of hearing I'm evil for the color of my skin when white people have done more to stop the evils of this world like slavery and rape than every other race combined.
PS box braids look bad on anyone so I would not get them.
I don’t think white people invented all those things. I believe that they may have stole a lot of ideas and possibly improved them or just stole them out right and just was the first to successful write down and say they did those things. But I mean there is no way to actually go back in time and really know that. I’m just saying that there r a couple things that people believe one invented and come to find out evidence is later found that it was not so. So yea. As for th box braids I’m going to asume ur not black so u probably don’t understand y the dislike. Box braids is used as a protective style because well me wearing my hair in its natural crazy way has been deemed bad for a long time... even today. U can wear a ponytail working at a restaurant if ur hair is straight. My ponytail would be looked down on. I would be asked to do something extra because of a hair texture I can’t control. Even in th corporate world it is only recently that it’s not expected of u to “do something” about Afro hair. Locks was associated wit being dirty and was asked a lot of time to be cut. We couldn’t even escape the problems even in school. In American schools as a child i had be sent home for my hair being “distracting”. Many black people feel that it is only now our hair is being accepted but not because black hair is acceptable, only because while women want to wear it like it’s a style they “invented”. So where is th justice for th women and men that wore locks or braids and didn’t get th job even though they were well qualified but got turned down because they don’t think they would culturally fit in with th environment. (Oh yes. That’s a phrase that gets used a lot “ur resume is impressive but we don’t think u would not culturally fit with what th company is going for.”... sure ok) Or th justice for the little black girls or boys who had braid or locks and was denied their education for their hair being a “distraction”?
Slavery is over right? Segregation is over right? Then y is something like natural black hair still a problem in th work force or still a problem in schools? Don’t get me wrong we appreciate th changes because now since Becky got braids, nobody can’t tell me anything about mine but change should be happening because it’s trendy. Change should be happening because people should realize how stupid it is to no hire a qualified individual because of hair or to send a kid home over hair. Th black community is left wondering what happens when braids, locks, Afros and beads stop being trendy? What happens when our culture stops being fashionably? Does the problem society have goes back to being ours alone? Do the people that wear them understand the struggle and will stand up with us in th face of discrimination? And that’s y many black people r against this whole thing. So I hope this makes sense because I do understand many black people r so upset about this that they don’t even take th time to explain y they view it as a problem. And at th end of th day ur not black so how would anyone know unless we speak up. Sorry this was really longer than I thought it was gonna be.
@zed-789 So I read through what you said and I don't think you are 100% wrong or anything but to start please don't be so ignorant to believe that white people didn't invent all of the things that I listed and more this is not a case of history being written by the winners. I am sorry to hear that you have to deal with discrimination due to the type of hair your have. But you need to realize that this is not a thing unique to black people My friend for example who is white has very curly hair and she has to deal with the same problems of not getting hired because of it if she works all the time to straighten it she has no problems. The truth is that this is human nature to be uncomfortable around people that are different. throughout history the United States is the only country that this has been a problem on the inside. Because every other country on earth is an ethnostate. You might look at Europe and and see all white people even among European countries there has been a ton of fighting because one viewed the other as inferior white. Black people are only 13% of the population in the us and the other 87% are mostly white or Hispanic who both have very similar feature so that is what most people are used to. For me I most less problem with box braids if they are done in a way that look clean and well kept like if you look at the picture in the the post the white girl has very bad and nasty looking braids but the black women looks clean and well kept. If I leave my hair to get really greasy and nasty I will have the same problem getting hired and the same goes for if I make the choice of dyeing my hair a weird color. Its not white people its everyone and I'm not saying you should have to but if you moved to Africa you would not have anyone there have a problem with your hair but also if you moved to japan people would have have the same problem.
I gave myself them a few years ago. I had a mohawk at the time, shaved sides and super long hair down the middle. (Like past my ass) I always like putting little plats in my hair but this one day I kind of went crazy and did the whole thing, I really liked the look. I was going to a party later that day and I got a couple of compliments on my hair. My uncle (mum's sister's husband) was super inappropriate and was drunk, started tugging on my hair in like a flirty playful way and later on tried to kiss me. I took them out as soon as I got home and my boyfriend wouldn't look at me until I showered. I really loved the look and my hair looked really pretty and curly when I took them out. It all went away after I showered. It was a total dampener on it for me, I spent the whole day platting my hair but now I won't do it again. I don't want to provoke those negative emotions. If you like it then keep them, but if you can't handle them then don't wear them. Hair is way more important then we think, it affects our emotions in weird ways. So just do what makes YOU happy and don't worry about anyone else.
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What? That’s terrible, I’ve only ever face a few comments and looks. I’ve never had to deal with actual abuse because of them
I'm inclined to believe that beads have been around since the beginning of time, worn by many cultures, for different reasons over many centuries. If I remember my world history correctly beads was also used as money to barter or trade with in many cultures just like farm animals, furs or whatever else people could make that other people might have a want or a need for. So to say wearing beads is more of a cultural bound for one group of people over another group of people would be the same as trying to figure out if what cultures started worshipping God first. Now if one culture was the only culture to ever wear beads they would be able to claim it. If that is you with the long hair dyed red, you got high cheek bones which is characteristics native American Indian, your culture has worn beads for a very long time.
Cultural appropriation is a racist SJW term where they think they have the power to say “These people with this skin color are allowed to wear/do this and these people with that skin color are allowed to wear/do that. Let’s keep them separate” all while still trying to play the victim. I’m convinced that this is a white people issue because that is the race that only shows up on their radar because that is the only race they think they can bully because they are labeled the “oppressors” thanks to their Marxist ideology. No dictionary definition of racism says that it is only exclusive to non-whites so they are technically racist.
No. Cultural appropriation is a term against cultural development that reinforces racial segregation instead of joining cultures together. People who use it are haters who want society to be divided instead of sharing culture with joy.
This is no different than a black girl making her hair straight or wearing a classical European hairstyle such as medieval braid crowns. Would be wrong for her to do this? Not at all. If she finds that hairstyle pretty, or comfortable and that makes her life better or happier in any way then she should take it.
That's how culture is, it doesn't matter where or when something originates, it's from everyone and anyone can take culture anytime and make it their own as a way to show love and appreciation for ir. You don't need to be Japanese to wear a kimono or you don't need to be Spaniard to learn to dance flamenco. You don't need to be born in a culture to be able appreciate it.
Cultural appropriation is a made up idea that one culture has exclusive rights or ownership to a style. The truth is, we are a global culture. Depending on when or where you are in history, one could argue that braids are from one group of people and not the other, and vice versa. Taking ownership, possessively drawing a line in a cultural trait, and determine its exclusivity because the "others aren't of thirst culture," is inherently racist. Stray away from these boundaries that set one group of people above the other, especially by traits exhibited by our ancestry.
My wife is a braider (yes she is black btw) so I can give some great insight on this topic.
My wife have done many white women, Latina women, and blacks of course. We think black people are too defensive when it comes to things like this...
The sad part is they think it's okay to feel like white women/other race of women wearing "black styles" is wrong but nobody is not supposed to say anything to them about eating Chinese food, Mexican food, American food... And so on... Most of them don't even know what African food dishes is!
We all do it... It's just some only looking at it from their prospective, if you look at it as a whole you will see were all taking from each other's culture in some way, shape, or form.
I feel like it's disrespectful because women of color have a different hair texture and braids is a way to style it to their needs but the texture of white women hair doesn't have the same needs. I understand if it's an artistic expression but I also think that there are other ways to do that
Here's beautiful white actress Bo Derek way back in 1980 with braids that inspired a lot of women & young girls (including me) of all races to copy. No fuss from anyone back then. Nobody should care now.
Probably because Black women get harassed at school and the workplace because of their African CULTURED hair styles vs the wigs and fake hair that they wear💡🥴
What you describe is racism. And if that was the case then why do they wear weave/wigs etc in their native countries?
Surely yes they do they it to escape racist comments they would get as apposed to wearing their natural hair but it’s not the sole reason... especially not in the part of the UK that I’m from.
Ignorance what? Excuse you but if you think black is the only race that’s targeted due to race then you are extremely dim.
You might want to think a bit longer about what you said. Your comment translates as when a black girl wears fake hair it is because she’s doing it to avoid racism and in no sense whatsoever she would be doing it for fashion or because she sees it as a personal choice for her own hair 🤔🤷🏻♀️
Right... okay, good luck progressing in life with that kind of thinking 👍🏼
no... im sure if you went back thousands of years white women had them then too and also there is the simple fact it doesn't matter anyway... its hardly the same as a black person whiting up or someone from one culture using the rligious garbs of another as some kind of hipster fashion statement... its just hair
First of all, I think it's slightly unfair to claim cultural appropriation anymore. Every single culture has become too intertwined and mixed that it would be hard to divide who made what and stay inside cultural lines. I don't care if you do box braids, maybe have sympathy for someone who has to do them because of their hair texture but other than that, I could care less.
It doesn’t even look good on white girls, and it IS ABSOLUTELY a part of African culture. White people have no right to appropriate their styles and looks. It’s just wrong, especially given the past and how white people have treated those of African decent. Garbage. Can’t y’all just let them have their own culture?
The way you wear your hair is not cultural appropriation, or black women who get their hair straightened are culturally appropriating white culture. If you like it, get it, don't apologize to anyone for how you want to present yourself.
I am on the fence about it. I am a black guy who date white females. And usually after they date me. They start with the braids. Or dread lox. And I think it's sexy.
But, the Jamaican in side of me is not always happy about it. Because, I have to defend it against my family a lot. And, sometimes it doesn't always end well.
No, it's just a hairstyle ignore those idiots. If white girls can't have box braids, then black girls cannot flatten their curls and dye them blonde. It's just a damn hairstyle, people who comment have no life
"I don't know. I'm not bothered by people of different cultures/races wearing other culture's things. It's interesting to see so if anything I think it's cultural appreciation." - ClosetHoe (a black woman)
I don't think this is the right place to ask that. The majority of the people on this site ARE WHITE. The only people that could give you the correct answer are people that are black. Is it typically a black culture style, yes. Is it my place to say whether or not it's cultural appropriation, no. I'm just another token white dude.
For the record though, I actually had this exact conversation with 3 black women I work with a few weeks ago. They felt it's cultural appropriation.
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Its a problem because black girls (and boys) are shamed for their natural hair and forced to straighten and/or cut it. It would be completely fine but until they are free to wear their hair naturally and with their own cultural styles, its messed up when we steal them
Cultural appropriation is just a silly claim by leftist liberals to further invent injustices with which to demonize white people with. There's no racial patent on braids in hair that is a ridiculous claim, and for the record ancient civilizations consistent of white people had braided hair long before it was a thing of modern trends.
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Look you dont own hair styles and imitation is the most sincere form of flattery anyway so even if someone is adopting a style, so what?
That is a good thing..
There is a name for people who have a problem with things like this, its called being a bigot and they can all go fuck themselves.
It is. The real question is "What is wrong with cultural appropriation?" Virtually all culture is built on appropriated stuff. Could the Beatles have existed without Bach, or Mozart, or the guitar? If it is ok for rasta guys to play guitars, why is it not ok for sad, inadequate white girls to adopt outlandish hair styles?
The unicorns ate all the cultural appropriation. You’re now free to wear box braids with only minimal risk of scorn from silly people that think cultural appropriation is an actual thing.
I think not. I think if a woman wants box braids, BOX BRAIDS SHE SHALL HAVE! It doesn’t matter what gender you are or what color you are. People can make their own choices and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Cultural appropriation is just something people that are racist against Whites say. They never say it when they copy things made by Whites. Just like when they wear wigs or dye their hair to make it look more like a White person's hair.
No matter , what culture one is whether your Black , White, Red, Yellow you should be able to wear braids without it being a big issue and people pointing fingers and making a big scene out of things?
Why is this an issue? It saddens me that people still think in a "cultural " mind set. You can wear your hair any style you want. I don't understand why it should be an issue?
Please tell me where or how or when hair style has become separated by race? and people wonder why we can not come together as people... what underwear should I have on being that I'm an African American/Black male?
It's utterly ridiculous this Q is even being asked-NOBODY (M or F) needs permission from anybody to style their hair whatever way they want. Anyone complaining about this is just trying to control people.
You be You, fuck abunch of the finger pointers, and whisperers, Do what you like, wear your hair the way You want , and be Yourself ! Too many try to immolate, be a trend setter, not a SHEEPLE !
@Mamaganja Someone who discriminates based on race, in this case someone who claims what hairstyle you are allowed to wear based on race. Don't try the power + prejudice propeganda on me, thats excuses racists use to feel good about their behavior and does not make it any less excusable.
Not sorry but the origin of the word racist is anti black. Back to the drawing board. Why do y'all wanna be oppressed so bad.. the question was “is it culture appropriation” and by definition since the style is African/black culture, it is culture appropriation not to mention looks stupid on thin hair textures 🙄
@Mamaganja Regardless of origin discriminating who the word racist can be used on is also racist. Stop following devisive propeganda its not healthy and only makes you unhappy.
Ill concede that in radical doctrine this indeed counts as cultural appropriation. In other radical doctrine black people aren't people. That is why we do not take doctrines with racial foundations seriously because it always leads to discrimination. So ultimately cultural appropriation is part of a radical doctrine i oppose which is why i answered what i answered.
There is systemic oppression of the majority in intersectionality. We do not want to be oppressed, but your ideology is trying to oppress us. Don't solve racism with racism. You need water to put out a fire not more fire.
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