I think you should elaborate the point, since feminists are many and come from different, really different points of view.
You don't like them but which ones? The ones that propose what, in what way? The ones that behave like what? I mean...
If we have to take -all- the feminists like an homogeneous group then my opinion is that it's a disorganized group because some ask for gender equity also within the perception of the female gender (as not inferior etc), while other ask for more special helps and supports, indirectly implying that the female gender -is- inferior, intrinsically to the battle itself. To not mention the most debated part about the freedom of the nudity/sexuality, that's the point where the biggest flames happen between feminists.
Still, I think the general activism brought to more justice in the last decade, mainly helping young girls (and young parents) to create an environment that given more options to girls, as much as boys. Feminism permitted also much more mediatic attention about domestic violence, psychological abuses and femicides, allowing the creation of protective entities and centers for these victims. Good thing, in my opinion.
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Feminists argue that men and women are equal. Those who hate and despise men are not real feminists.
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Egalitarians? I'm fine with them.
Hostile, nasty bitches who hate men? No thank you! Equal rights yes not an issue but that isn't the issue the issue is the way they behave, the arguments they make.
Let's take an example, they'll use a false statistic that women are the only victims of domestic violence not true in fact men are most likely to be the initial victim of domestic violence, now then when you understand that it's also not hard to understand why lesbian relationships have the highest of all DV incidents across all relationship type groups. Again they won't admit to that.
They argue for equality but only for cases where they are directly benefitting otherwise they'll sit very quiet. They'll make statements that when questioned on those statements use gaslighting tricks to avoid being called out.
They make claims that all men are evil and when again called out on it go to, well I don't mean all men, or I didn't say all men.
They demand equality for things they already have equal rights on, but again demand that they are protected special little flowers when it comes to things they don't like..
I don't like these people, I don't consider them people because they are at best hypocrites and cowards, they will claim it's about choice but only if a choice you make agrees with them otherwise they throw you right under the bus. They sand that masculinity changes to suit them but won't change to meet men half way, they demand that men change and become more feminine but time and again show that's the very last thing they want.I support egalitarianism I cannot support feminism though.
I know some feminists personally and they are annoying as hell especially on social media.
I swear these people are grown in a lab and were released because they do nothing but complain about how men are the evil ones when there are plenty of evidence that claim that evil has no gender (just watch TV and it will all make sense). They insist that all men are rapists and are out to get them yet they lack the self awareness to realize that if they really believed that then they wouldn’t have broadcasted that where everyone can see them and instead hide under a floor somewhere. That’s what I would have done.
What’s even worse is that politicians have been listening to these people for decades and allowed stuff like to Duluth model (assumes the man is the aggressor in any domestic violence case unless the woman demonstrates otherwise and it might not even matter then) to exist where it remains today.
I just have no idea where they are getting off saying that they are oppressed especially to this day. It boggles my mind.Well, if they are feminists because they support feminism then I don't see a problem with them.
I don't have a problem with feminism:
the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.
People may have problems with feminism but I do not.
I do, however, not appreciate people who hide behind a label and are pushing a different agenda. That goes for any ism.
If a woman or even man, claims to be a feminist just so they can belittle or attempt to oppress members of the same or opposite sex, then I do not respect them.
But if a woman wants the world to be equal for them, then I support their beliefs.I would second what coldmarch said.
Pamela Anderson is a self-admitted feminist. But the way she handles feminism is by her being comfortable with her own skin and her role in a relationship, and not feeling pressured into anything; she's in control at all times.
So when she came out basically criticizing women who went up to hotel rooms of powerful Hollywood execs ("you know what you're getting into when you go to a hotel room, and if you do go, get the job."), and she got beat up for it, she just shrugs it off and doesn't apologize for the way she feels.
THAT is a real feminist. Not the ones that basically dislike men. They're not feminists.As a man i dont feel i have the right to judge them. But you asked us. So... I can say that i feel feminists now dont have any battles to fight no more in western countries, so all whats left is acting silly and pretending to be brave in an already safe environment. I wish one of these feminists come and act all brave here in the middle east were really things need to be changed. She will get her very pretentious ass kicked. Also those feminists aren't kind to men nor women. Some of them actually are very bitchy towards other women.(tsk tsk.. not practicing what they preach)
Feminism is one of the great, destructive evils of our time. It is to relationships what communism is to economies and liberty. It's a perversion of Natural Law, and while it might sound good on the surface, it quickly becomes a cancer that eats away at a culture. It makes men and women both miserable and uncertain of their roles in life. It has coarsened society, lead to men competing with women in sports, put women in dangerous positions never before contemplated. (sports, construction, combat) You ladies want to know where all the "good guys" went? they were killed by Helen Gurley Brown, Betty Friedan, and Simone de Beauvoir.
I think the word “feminist” has gotten a bad rap due to the depictions in social media and in other places. If I’m being charitable and generous with what I think the word means, I think it is supposed to mean a woman/man, but mainly woman, who is fighting for equal rights and treatment of women due to their treatment of being less than equal or inferior to men in a variety of circles from being shunned out of the business meeting room when the men talk, the sexual objectification of women, etc.
Femninists have been given a really bad name in their third and
fourth wave, this new generation of feminists act like entitled, unempathetic and unreasonable school children that want more than their agenda originally bargained for. Damn femi-nazis.Sadly, this concept has been highly denaturated.
I'm all for humanism and egalitarianism (this doesn't mean that all the differences between genders should be evened out).
I like strong women, able to carry themselves, but I dislike what's happening nowadays.Feminism is cancer... I would not say this if feminism would be really all about gender equality, but it's all about gender inequality and act of getting more priority... in the name of women safety... I prefer women safety but I know, if feminism will exists, we can't achieve women safety, because insecurity towards women is the 'weapon for feminism', if you want to keep 'feminism' alive, you must need to keep 'violences towards women' alive... as light needs darkness to prove it's worth, God need devil to prove his... similarly feminist need to keep 'violences against women' in order to have their tiers for it and get advantages over male folks, any form of violence against women need to stay as it is, so that they can easily make it their weapon to get priorities over others in almost all aspects...
I'll have to keep saying it. They're not feminists and they don't care about women. They use women for political gain. These people are communists and the so called feminist movement is based on neo Marxist ideology of class struggle over social power they just don't tell you that. You can easily tell they're not really for women by looking at their silence over grooming gangs in the UK or the gang rape of women in Cologne Germany, utter silence form the so called feminists because it was migrants doing it and not Europeans.
As destructive to Western culture as radical Islamic jihadists. One bleeds us. One rots us from within. Like opioid addiction, feminism harms women but they don't know it until it's too late. It ruins lives, families and careers and is dismantling culture.
Depends if the girl is conned into thinking feminism is about a fair society where people have equal rights i support her but also inforl her that is not what feminism is. If she is an actual feminist who practises intersectionality and/or tribal warfare by attackimg gender strengths or rights in an attempt to achieve equal outcome ill dislike and strongly oppose her.
They are all social constructivists to some degree. Some of that is rational, but too far and you get Maoism which is hellish.
Same way with people who acknowledge innate biological difference between gender and race. Some of that's rational too but bring it too far and you get eugenics and nazism.
So, if I hear someone is a feminist, I consider it possible the person may subscribe to dangerous ideas, but It's best to have an open mind first and find out more.Majority of them are addicted to the anger porn aspect of it. a lot are in it for social reasons. The rest are unattractive females who want to get the same treatment as hot women in society.
Feminism is the weapon of choice for the last group. I've dated a wealth of feminists. Most were in it because of the social circle. Not really diehards. My favorites are the girls who are selectively feminist. Teasing "how feminist of you" gets a rise out of them in a fun way.I'm fine with feminists, The European political septum is broader than the American, i. e. we have much more established socialism and other alt left ideologies/parties. Alt left ideologies are still a bit scary for Americans, even though the Wall fell 30 years ago.
In Sweden there is even a dedicated feminist party, but they're steadily becoming irrelevant since every established party now embrace feminism.For me it really depends on their level of intensity. Like obv I’m against SCUM feminists, but I look up to women such as Loretta Lynn who wrote songs of lying, cheating, drunk philandering husbands, the pill, society’s expectations of women, being kept pregnant and left at home, women’s lib, etc.
While i'm all for equal right... that does not have to come at the expense of male rights there has to be a better way.
I mean all feminists i meat blamed men for all the world trouble and while that may be true i can't see how hating innocent guys can lead to a better future... also i dont quite understand their standing on kidsIn the traditional sense. Feminism is necessary. There's still work to be done in other countries. No woman should be denied an education, the right to vote, the right to make her own decisions. An egalitarian approach to feminism can only be a good thing.
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