Are women identifying as anti-feminist basically meaningless? Agree or disagree? (Page 2)
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I think if your anti-feminists you don’t really care about the topic and it’s not really a concern and that’s ok, feminism means pro woman and you want woman to be equal. I think feminism is very positive and any woman would be happy to be a feminist. But there is also third way feminism which gives a bad rep to actual feminist. In my opinion if your anti feminist your anti woman
To some extent I agree, but not fully. Yes, many women have feminist views without realizing that's where it originated. That said, I disagree that there's no difference.
There's obviously a meaningful difference. I'm assuming he looks at the gynocentric view of society and takes that on to say "it's all feminism". While it's not all that necessarily
I always believed that feminism was, and is a toxic venture. I can to a point support first and second wave feminism. Third wave and later is pure degeneracy. It seeks to make women competitors in every aspect to men. This seeks to take away their uniqueness that they once held in favor of sameness to men. I can understand why there would be anti feminist as they are not in such a hurry to lose their feminine identities.
I mean there's no absolute. What he defines as feminist and what others define as feminist might be different and so maybe their anti's. Depends on the definition you take and according to some definitions that statement might not be true or might not be that bad even if its/it is/it's true...
I think being "Anti-Feminist" has less to do with being against the foundational principles of Feminism
INSTEAD
its about Women taking a stand against the more "FemiNazi" style elements
that are less about equality of sexes
and more about hatred.
I think its because these elements SEEM to be the ones with the most influence today.
1. Stop pretending like you don't know why many women today are anti-feminist.
2. Don't use the redpill crowd as an example. They're male version of SJW feminists.
3. Get ready because a lot of leftism is collapsing do to becoming an idiotic cartoon.
100% agree.
I had this women start every sentence with "I'm not a feminist but" and then she goes on to say how women who cut off penises are heroes giving men what they deserve.
I think calling yourself a feminist has become "uncool" but once you dig into it you'll find 99% of women think the same as feminists.
I agree
Well glad we finally agree on something ☺️
Is there a Black Pill option for us indifferent no fucks left to give individuals?
There exist a large swath of men and women alike who see this stuff as noting more than just another label and form of division amongst the polarized. The rest of us who get along just wish to live our lives in harmony but more and more the poles are making that difficult for the civilized segment who actually do get along and even compliment another.
I’d say that’s true. Feminism, over the years, has become so incredibly hugely influential when it comes to societal views, institutions and alike that it’s pretty damn hard - unless you actually are against women’s rights of course - to be anti-feminist. Those modern, widely accepted views are fundamentally very influenced by feminism. Sure, you may dislike different flavours of feminism, but agreeing with those things basically eliminates the possibility of someone being truly anti-feminist
If what you mean by the term feminist is first wave feminism, then yes. He is correct.
However, if what you mean by feminist is third wave feminism, then he is very wrong.
And it is this third wave that drives so many people (only 7% of women in England still identify as feminist) to reject the term feminist. It has gone so far beyond what the original feminist leaders envisioned that they themselves wouldn't recognize it.
Most guys are feminists too then
I agree with him
Things have changed
If you are a true anti-feminist, you are against women in the work force and women voting
Exactly
I am low key an anti-feminist
Why are you on the internet woman? Where is your husband? sign off rn! 😤😂 jk!
i think feminism has different categories and a female who identifies herself as anti-feminist is anti-female to me
lol so just bcoz a women doesn't agree with your style of 'feminism' she's antifemale? give me abreak.
style, category, it's the same thing. if a girl has the nerve to call herself "anti-feminist" then she is anti-female to me
When people say they're "anti-feminsist" I assume they're anti western third wave feminism; where people complain non-existent issues, like wage gap, lack of women in stem, objectification of women in video games, etc. Whereas women in middle eastern countries are being treated worse than garbage, where some women get punished by the government for being raped, forced marriages, etc.
I dislike anyone who calls themselves feminists because why would I like someone who tells me ALL OVER THE INTERNET how they want to terrorize, torture, maim, and murder me, because their hatred for all things male and how their only chance to be happy is to eradicate all living males on the planet?
feminist is to make men not want to date women. feminist is a tool to destroy ourselves. Turn men into women and women into men. While using the gov power to destroy each other. Anywhere feminist touches women become depressed (misandry) and men become MGTOW and don't wanna get relationship with women or have kids.
I dont particularly agree with that. In the end we can judge each other by our actions and how we express our beliefs. For that matter people can say anything they want?
I am not a child molester
I am not a racist
I am not a banana
The proof is in the pudding, especially for the bananas
I agree. I may be misunderstanding the stance but it doesn't appear that the stance takes modern feminism movements into account. The core ideals of feminism differ from a large portion of notions pushed by modern feminists. And many people don't want to associate themselves with that. But yeah, I mean a vast majority of women believe that women should be equal to men in regards to legality and rights.
The reason I chose to disagree is because the author doesn't identify what he considers "feminist ideals" to be personally, OR what he is presuming "women" think they are. His last statement " ... but you still hold feminist ideals and you don’t even realize that you do" says absolutely nothing relevant. Until I know his definitions, or what he claims to be some universally agreed up "women's definition", his statement is just as meaningless as his claim.
If we disregard dozens, or even hundreds of fake female profiles on the GaG (who claim to be anti-feminist women - but they are in fact men), there are also some real women who are actually against feminism, they are indoctrinated by religion, and no more intelligent than an average sheep.
I think it's meaningless what they identify as either way, because a person can call themselves a lot of things, but act nothing like it. Its what they do and behave like that has meaning. Idgaf what they identify as