I don’t want to over-generalize, particularly since I’ve never even been to most of these places. To be honest though, the places I HAVE been to? Holy fuck, man... like I’m not trying to sound snobby, but it SUCKS there. I’m probably spoiled from being from a major metropolitan area, but I mean, there is just NOTHING going on there. The towns seem to have a Walmart, a McDonald’s, a Taco Bell/KFC, a dollar store, some gas stations and convenience stores, and not a fuck of a lot else. Everybody was looking either obese or malnourished, like the “fat American” stereotype was everywhere I looked. These people are struggling, and many of them have no education and no skills, so low-paying labor is all they can ever hope for. So I think to these people, they bite hook, line, and sinker on any candidate promising “jobs.” Jobs, jobs, jobs... these people don’t have “careers”, they get “jobs.” I think that’s why so much of the enlisted military hail from places like that too, like it’s your only way out of there. And I think that’s part of why religion has such a stronghold there too, these are people desperately looking for some sort of hope. Like I remember driving through semi-rural Texas and just being like “jesus... this place fucking blows, I’d legitimately kill myself if I lived here, I’d feel so hopeless.” Like it’s just a depressed area. We have plenty of shitty spots in New England too, but some of these southern/midwestern places seem like practically a third-world country, at least by my standards. Like if you’re sitting there with your fingers crossed that Amazon will open a warehouse in your town so you can find work even if it’s hourly and pays like shit... I just feel bad for you, honestly, like I wish I could help.
I’d imagine there is some degree of path dependency.
The coastal bits of the USA have historically had more economic development and often offer better educational and employment opportunities. If this holds over time, lots of people in the states in the middle would move to those states because of those push factors. That inherently makes those states less capable of having competing economic development, which also makes it less attractive for future generations.
That said, this is mostly just me eyeballing stuff and I could be entirely wrong as well
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Because they are mostly rural states with less resources and have citizens in those states pay less tax. A question you should ask is why are people in rich democrat states like California and in democrat run cities fleeing like refugees to these poorer conservative states?
Not so much state-to-state comparison, but here in Boston, the poor neighborhoods are getting bought out by developers and gentrified. You ever hear of “Southie?” Like South Boston from The Departed or whichever of the 20 Boston crime movies you like best? Lmao. I don’t even recognize it anymore, at least the people you see walking around, now young professionals live there, it’s not working class Irish guys who won’t think twice to smash a bottle over your head anymore, lmfao. They tore down some of the projects and built condos. The poorer folks are being priced out of the city and they’re moving first to the immediate small cities outside of Boston, but the same thing is happening there, it’s been gentrified. So these people are forced to move farther and farther out of the city, and many are heading to the western part of the state which is much more rural but has a couple TERRIBLE small cities that they can afford to live in. Give it another 20 years, they won’t be able to afford Springfield and Worcester anymore, and then you might see movement to cheaper states.
Areas like LA, San Francisco, Chicago... I think the same stuff is happening if people are relocating to the south. It’s apparently in less demand to live there so costs are much cheaper. I remember watching HGTV once and they compared a really nice house on the San Francisco Bay that cost millions, then they showed a comparable home in Missouri that was like $300k. You can’t buy yourself a warm doorway in Boston for $300k, that MAYBE gets you a shitty house in a lower-income suburb. So you can definitely live like a king by comparison in terms of your home if it’s elsewhere, but... downside: what the hell is there for anyone in Missouri, with all due respect to the Show Me state, haha. I hear St. Louis is awful and Kansas City is even worse, so there’s really not much of a draw to be there, or let’s say there are probably fewer and less lucrative opportunities there.
@WhiteSteve its happening everywhere. The people who built those neighborhoods and made them a success get pushed out by hipster liberals who then vote democrat who impose high taxes. Its like when California raised the minimum wage to $11 an hour what was the point because prices rose as did taxes.
Yeah, I mean, I don’t know if I like assigning conservative or liberal to every perceived problem, I think America on the whole needs a whole lot of reconciliation, because pretty much everybody is an asshole now and my respect for Americans’ values on both sides of the political aisle are at an all time low. Pretty embarrassed to say I’m from here right now, and that’s sad. As far as Southie, those old Irish people who used to be there were pretty fucking scummy in a lot of cases, and they were just working class people working for The Man in menial jobs just to pay the rent for their apartment in a triple-decker. I don’t know how much they made the neighborhood great as I don’t believe they were business owners, just laborers mostly.,” I don’t think the neighborhood ever was great, I think people around here just like it because they felt like it gave Boston some street cred, honestly, haha.
Lmao, no, but we’re both from Dorchester, same neighborhood. My cousin was actually at a party back in the day and she kind of rolled her eyes at some Dorchester chicks because Donnie Wahlberg had showed up to this party, pretty soon after New Kids On The Block’s heyday, and they were making a big deal of it, and my cousin isn’t basically real life Daria, not too impressed by anything, so she’s just like “so the fuck what?”, and these chicks were about ready to kick her ass over it😂😂😂
How people vote isn't your issue. It's none of your business. People have the right to use their vote as they see fit. They don't have to justify it to you. You might not understand why they do, and that's okay. It's their business why they vote as they do.
And here is where we see the liberal American in his natural habitat. He believes that people who earn less money than him are somehow inferior to him. Needless to say, he would die within a week if people who earn less than him prop up his lifestyle. And yet, he votes Democrat because he “cares about the poor”
Having the education of 18th century don't help and the fact most money will just go to religion. Also they want to live like there from 18th but without any slaves to help that turns out it's not making much progress to finical gain. Since that's only really why it prospered back then to be a Conservative.
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Because they promote a culture of science denial, anti-education, and oppression, causing most people to not want to live there and those that remain to be ill equipped to create or draw in business that provide revenue.
You are nothing but a fun maker. Instead of helping other, you want to mock and bully others. DO that to the wrong person and they'd hurt you or worst. Some people don't tolerate that.
It is pretty shameful you see your opponent as your enemy. You are supposed to love others.
If you want to point out hypocrisy there is plenty in the Democrat party. You'll be busy for the rest of your life. It's better to work for a united America rather than playing party politics.
I think it may be more correlation than causation, but if it is directly influencing each other i would love to know why! Smart people, do your thing! :D
I’ve heard south Illinois takes a lot of welfare, but the state is actually ranked in the forties when it comes to federal dependency. Prob bc of Chicago”s businesses.
Not sure about that, but if you factor taxes from each state vs what they receive from the Feds, red states are in the red, like $1 for every $10 they take. NY and Cali are reversed, $10 in taxes for every $1 they take.
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