
Are the police the problem in black communities or is it the irresponsible behavior of black parents that is the problem?


You're correct, and just saying what you did, automatically gets you labeled as a racist and white supremacist from liberals. They want to blame everyone, or everything, on something else, other than the crux of the problem. In other words, zero personal responsibility! In this case, it's within the black community.
It definitely doesn't help that liberals, Democrats, Progs (whatever name they've chosen this week) are Hell-bent on dividing the entire country on all sorts of lines (race, ethnic, religious, economic, regional, etc). Democrats specifically make it a point to bring that division up every time they can.
Nonetheless, the black community needs to quit listening to the garbage coming out of left wing politicians and focus on improving their families. The left has done nothing for the black community as a whole, other than to make them as dependent on Gov't as possible. It's long past time for blacks to shake off the mantra that they're oppressed, worthless, incompetent, and useless individuals, that the left continuously pushes. Voter ID is a classic example of what I mean. Families NEED BOTH a mother and a father. With Father's Day this weekend, take time to appreciate the dad you have. And if he's not a good example of what a father should be, take extreme notes and remember those notes as what NOT to do in the future.
I is odd that somehow because some cultures commit more crimes that the system is racist.
Liberals often think that being fair is racist. You know things like college, jobs, etc... everyone goes in, does their best and the most qualified get picked. Yet that is racist to a liberal.
Following laws is racist to liberals, some people shouldn't be required to... so they say.
If everyone, regardless of culture or race followed the laws the same... then there wouldn't really be an issue.
Gang warfare though is are thing and in some communities kids grow up planning on being in a gang and that is what they plan to do with their life.
We'd all think that if everyone would just assimilate and do what we all are suppose to, that things would get better... thing is I don't think they want to. I don't think the majority want things to get better, they like it the way it is.
You know that show escape from LA, almost makes me think, maybe that is the solution... defund the police, build a wall around it and let people who think police is the problem live there. You know give them all the choice.
If you want to draw lines around who commits the most crimes, men seem to disproportionately commit the most crime.
Is there a reason why you are so eager to divide it by skin color while ignoring stats by gender?
I'm not ignoring stats by gender. That isn't the topic. I agree, men commit more crimes than women, especially violent crimes. The reason for that is obviously that they are physically more able to do so. But that has nothing to do with this topic.
Went from partisans dramatic nonsense, to near racist ranting about minorities.
All you need to do is talk about lgbt destroying America and you’ll have right wing fool bingo lol
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!Stats can be misleading. If a white guy dropped a nuke on afghanistan and killed a million women and kids it wouldn't show up in any murder stats. If a black individual muders 50 gang rivals... and another black guy murders zero... a dumb reading of stats would imply that both guys are similar when they're really not. Almost all white women who get murdered are murdered by white men but you don't mention that, right?
Anyhow, viewing things in terms of race is misguided since race does not cause people to do things. Might as well compile stats based on the color of the car the perp owned... or the color of his house.
I'll agree that everyone should look to solve problems in their own neighborhood/community/school/city. One of the problems is that the police system and politicians want people to be dependent on them and then they claim zero responsibility when people do just that. The entire society has been crafted to make tons of victims & needy people. Might be that the solution will involve re-programming people in a similar fashion to how they were programmed in the first place. I won't hold my breath for that to happen tho.
Like many issues in life there a massive amount of grey. Grey areas that many people will not see, even if they are standing in it. Both sides of both sides of such an issue are not unwilling or able to see the grey areas. If you honestly want to change things stop spouting the same political retroact and start looking at the grey in the issue and draw peoples attention to it. Because doing so will help fix the issue and change things for the better.
Also I had a 2nd job working the grave yard shift at a gas station for several months. The man that robbed the place with a gun was white like myself. He also slashed me with a knife and I have the scars and security footage to show it. So yes white people do commit criminal accts as well
It's dual problem. The actions of many people is poor, but so is the the behavior of many police officers. And being as many black people are poor, they don't have the option of living in the suburbs or the country, and they have no choice but to raise their children around gangs, often where the only way to be safe at school, or going to and coming from school, is to belong to a gang. And the parents often have to work two low paying jobs to keep a roof over their head, and food on the table. These are extremely difficult situations to raise children.
If you can't raise children properly, don't have them. I guess that's why Democrats push abortion. More black babies have been aborted in America than black people living in America today. Democrat's have a very slick way of committing genocide these days. Back in the old days they were the slave owner's party... but that was way too obvious. They've really upped their game and even their victims can't detect it! SLICK!
Yep. Maybe there'd be some basis for additional police training if people weren't pointing at at instances where police perform exactly as they should and then suggest they did something wrong.
Very amusing when you get the most ignorant of civilians saying "just shoot a warning shot", "just shoot him in the leg," "shoot the gun out of his hand."
Clearly u are not a dumb man so its funny how you are keeping out that the majority off black Americans also are born into povity with terrble schooling included povity tends to breed crime and debauchrous behaviour so while yes I agree that blacks are responsible for there own behaviour wondering why most turn to crime as a means to feed themselves and family to then get arrested and add to the issue off kids growing with out fathers is not aomthing that is simply fixed
The Democrats never changed. That's a myth. They just went underground to dispense their racism in a more clandestine and insidious way.
How am I neglecting what people are saying about my original question? I responded to those comments that I thought worthy of response and that I thought required a response.
And I think the video I posted has a lot to do with the question. Senator Guillory even makes a reference to the exact point of the question in the video about black fathers missing from their families and the devastating affect that has.
I admire the civil way you compose your comments. It's a rare commodity around here and says a lot about your character.
Meh can't have a conversation without being civil and to refrance with the vid he brings up the point I pretty much stated but expanded on he agrees too many blacks males are in prison the reason so many commit crime like stated is because they live in povity because the schools systems are also failing kids not equipping them to be able to get jobs that can support a family the issues at hand can not be combated within the black communities alone as systems of govement such as schooling also need to be fixed plus many too many police departments really on arrests to make up part off there revenue for private prisons
I partially agree. The school systems in the inner cities where most black people live are corrupt. It is the teachers unions and the Democrats that are responsible for that. They are in a corrupt conspiracy to defraud taxpayers and the Democrats want to keep blacks uneducated so they can manipulate them. They use the teachers unions to accomplish that. And they are failing inner city kids including black kids.
The reason there is so much poverty in the black community has a lot to do with the fact that fatherless families of any race are far more likely to be poor than families with fathers. And black families are more likely to be fatherless than any other race. And no it isn't because they are in prison, it's because there is a culture of irresponsibility about having children with no commitments.
By the way it is the Democrats who oppose school choice so inner city black parents can escape those failing union controlled schools and send their kids to private schools so they can get a decent education.
The man in the vid makes the statement himself yes many blacks have a culture off having sex and leaving which everyone agrees needs to change but u can't deny blacks males going prison donnt play a especially for drug related crimes for said drugs that are now being legalised across the country
What I will agree on is that the making sure that black communities are overrun by dangerous drugs is one of the cornerstones of the Democrat's strategy to keep them dependent. And it has never been worse than it is now when they are opening up the Mexican border and more dangerous drugs are making their way to the streets than at any time in US history... not to mention more illegals coming in to take jobs from black people than at any time in history. The Democrats open border policy is the most dangerous threat to black people in America... far more dangerous than any threat from the police. Yet you hear no protests about that.
Because clearly people are not in agreement with what your saying im not knowledgeable enough to agree or disagree with u on that matter I do know tho that at the end off the day if education is failing blacks and people feel they can't get jobs people will turn to crime to support themself and a family which shows that government is failing not saying its sole responsible but playing a massive part too the issue be that because off the left or the right as coming back to the issue u stated I dont believe that fixing the border would fix the issues as the jobs that illiagals go for tend to be low paying jobs that wouldn't be able to support a family in the first place when u have systems where the jobs available put u in a worst position then food stamps or crime its clear why people would turn too crime no?
Poverty does not lead to crime. There were poor people in America for centuries including both black and white who never committed any crimes. So poverty is neither a reason or a justification to commit crimes. And there is no poverty in America today. We call poverty owning only one car and having an iPhone 10 instead of an iPhone 11. The definition of poverty has been dumbed down so much that it has become a meaningless word... like the word "racism."
There are hundreds of millions of people in the world who would risk their lives to be "poor" in America. To them it is rich. So that is all a matter of perspective.
No one starves in America. There is no excuse for crime.
The fact is that black people in America have more opportunity to succeed than anywhere else on planet earth. What is holding them back is that they are buying into the Democrat's agenda of keeping them dependent and enslaved to the government.
Lol I disagree to both off them the stats speak for themselves look around the world places that have povity have higher crime rates thats not my opinion thats a fact lol and u think nobody in the US lives in povity sorry mate have u been to the ghettos and seen the conditions they live in what are u talking about maybe where u live everyone has smart phones and cars but thats not the reality off the us as a whole mate and I agree povity in not a justification for crime but I can understand why people may feel they have no other choice its statements like nobody is starving in the US that shows u are disconnected from many in the US but thats fine
Done a quick search not much info out there but the number is super low upto maybe 100 mostly tending to be kids so I apologise for making it sound like it was more but I guess we was both wrong on that one although povity in regards to food is shown with the poor shop consisting off cheap low nutritional food that leads to obesity and other health related issues but I was wrong on povity leading to starvation 👍🏽
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If there is a legitimate crime going on then I'd be more than happy letting them do their job. If they are actively violating the constitution, then that's where I draw the line. Actually, that would put half of our government out of commission and if that's the case, good.
The problem is far more complicated than that. Each side is expecting unrealistic behavior from the other and as a result are always disappointed and making excuses for why bad things happen. INMF (It's Not My Fault) seems to be a mutual philosophy.
It's absolutely the parents!!
You answered your own question.
I won't say that cops are innocent, but it's the job of parents to teach their children to not be a dumb ass.
When you take the people who made Africa look like Africa, and you put them somewhere else and then that somewhere else resembles Africa... what were you expecting? Were you expecting Africans to create a utopia or something? No, they're going to make something that looks like Africa.
I don't disagree with you, but there's a need for more police training as well. The two are not mutually exclusive. We need reform from top to bottom. Citizens need to stop being seen as revenue streams for police departments. Drugs need to be legalized. And yes, the culture in black America needs to change.
Let me ask you a question. You see a pinprick or gang member making hundreds of dollars every day going to school. Your school hardly ever sends someone to college. Most people end up working minimum wage jobs. Which would you choose?
Your question is when you see a drug dealer, for example, making big bucks why would you choose to go to a school that gives you a poor education and end up with a minimum wage job instead of dealing drugs?
I'm good with the question even though it is not exactly the same topic, but want to be sure I understand what you are asking.
One reason you might to choose not to do it is because it is illegal. Another reason you might choose not to do it is immoral.
But I guess if you don't care about the law and have nor morals than it sounds like a good idea. And that it getting near being on topic. Why do people make those immoral and law defying choices? Because their parents never taught them right from wrong? If you make choices the consequences of those choices are YOUR responsibility not someone else's. You learn morality and how to be law abiding from your parents. That's how kids learn those things. If they didn't it is the parents who are responsible for it.
Get your head out your ass, kiddo and stop victim blaming.
Yes. The answer is yes.
There is no one or the other in this situation.
I agree, blacks are their own worst enemies. Blacks are the only ones who can fix the problems in the black community.
Agree. They need to stop buying into the excuses the Democrats feed them and look to their own culture and behavior for their failures. They are surrounded with a country that provides them more opportunity than any in history. It's up to them to take advantage of it and stop listening to the false narrative that they are oppressed. If they don't do that their plight will never change.
It's not the police fault. It's black people who don't want to change (I'm black by the way)
i always love the people obsessed with black people
People are the problem. Many American cops are total morons when it comes to policing.
There are problems on all sides. 🤷
There are no problems on the cop's side. You can't have a profession with 800,000 members that doesn't have a few bad practitioners. It's impossible. This is a fake narrative set up so that it can NEVER be achieved and as long as a single cop does something bad the left will use it as an excuse to riot, loot, assault, murder and bring down the country. It's BS. There are only a handful of unjustified shootings by cops every year even though they have MILLIONS of encounters with the public. And only a percentage of them is black people. The reason it is a disproportionate percentage black is because black people proportionately COMMIT MORE CRIMES so of course they have more encounters with cops. More encounters with cops means more chance something will go wrong. There is NO systemic racism. That's complete BULLSHIT.
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